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# "Key Three" numbers and other stuff....

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 WIN DThread StarterStone Mountain*GeorgiaUnited StatesMember #828November 2, 200210491 PostsOffline August 14, 2005, 7:00 pm⮟ Instead of a 1 n 10 chance.......Do ya want to find a way to have a 1 n 3 chance at getting thefirst digit correct digit in Pick 3?  How about a 1n3 chance at at the right Sum instead of 1 n 10 ?  Increase our chances ...... yes.  Very much.   Find the 10 short sums chart and then find an instance where 3 of the 10 are all missing at the same time. Important ( All 3 must be missing for at least 15 draws) Together.  Example: Short sums 0,,,,,,1,,,,,,, and 2 are all missing at the same time. The 0 has been missing for 43 days. The digit 1 for 23 days. The digit 0 for 15 days. All in first position only.  Now ..... since these are "Short Sums" we must divide each by 3 sooooo......        43/3= 14.33       23/3=7.6            and  last digit 0 for          15/3=5     Now instead of 43 days ...its 14 draws out. Instead of 23 its 7 days out ...... and its not 15 days it's 5 days out. Divide by three ...and its equal to or the same as all 3 digits missing in all positions for that length of time.  As long as the shortest missing digit /sum  has been out for at least 15 days or 15/3 = 5 normal days. It will work.                                     First Position  Almost the same thing is involved for a 1 n 3 chance at first position odds . Beats 1 n 10 right?  Ex. Digits 4,,,,,5,,,,and 6 are all missing at the same time from position one. The digit 4 has been missing for 52 days .... the digit 5 for 24 days ....and the digit 6 for 16 days.  Since this is for a single position and not ALL POSITIONS  missing digits then we must divide by 3 AGAIN.  So  52/3= 17   24/3=8  and the last digit missing 16/3= 5.3  ODDS are very high that the next draw will come from one of these 3 missing digits once all three have crossed over the line. When the least of the 3 digits has been missing for at least 15 draws.   " They can hide one of something forever and 2 of something almost as long....but they just can't hide 3 of something very long at all"  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                                                             Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.                               Odds never change .....but probability does.                                                                                        Win d
 retxxBOSTONUnited StatesMember #48September 9, 20013952 PostsOffline August 14, 2005, 10:17 pmhi trying to follow your key 3. where is the 10 short sums chart you refer to?secondly are these 2 separate issues you mean/ using sums to figure the plays or just positions. A little confused. need help. thanks
 emilyg50United StatesMember #14November 9, 200131615 PostsOffline August 14, 2005, 11:24 pm  win d - explain morelove to nibble those micey feet.
 RazielFergusCanadaMember #5532July 9, 200487 PostsOffline August 14, 2005, 11:43 pm  Yes Win D you really nead to explain this more clearly for us to follow.Raziel
 WIN DThread StarterStone Mountain*GeorgiaUnited StatesMember #828November 2, 200210491 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 9:31 am Your right. Let's try this.  First... if anyone can print out one of my old " 10 column Short Sums Charts " i would appreciate it. I can't make it print out anymore. It times out on me.  Missing digits ... All positions ( Finding digits that are missing for at least 5 or 6 days) minimum.  1.  If you find 3 digits missing at the same time  in All positions for at least 5 or 6 draws.... well,,,, (without  going into the math of it right now) ...it's almost a Lock that one of the 3 digits will hit in the very next draw.  This is a very strong indicator. This is sooo strong that we can say it .."Most of the time". Anything in this game  you can say that about is a "Keeper. "  You can build on those.  Very much.   2. Short sums. When you find 3 sums(short sums) missing at the same time it works just as well. The only difference is that you must figure missing sums at a different rate. If,, for example ,,,,a sum 8 is missing  for 23 days ...you must divide by 3. This way you can picture it in the same way you did above.  This way ...23/3 = 7.6 days or normal days skipped .  Now... this gives you a better feel for  how tardy that missing sum really is. It's kinda like a missing digit thats missing in all positions for 7 days. Thats all.        There are only 12 six way numbers under each short sum to consider. 3. Lastly. By single position . If you want to cut the odds down when you are trying to figure what digit is going to come in firstposition try this. Same as Short Sums above. This cuts your odds down from guessing between 1-10 digits .....and 1-3 digits.  Three's better odds right? Anytime you can cut your odds down by 66% it's a pretty darn good.   When you want to figure ONE Position only ......take the total number of missing days that it missed and divide by 3.  If its missed 43 days in a row you divide by 3...... and this gives you 14.3 normal days missing.  This is just like a normal digit missing in ALL positions for 14 days. People understand the idea of 14 missing draws better than 43 .......  who can relate to that big of a number? Not me. OK...... forget having to divide and all that. If you want to figure which one of three short sums is going to show in the next draw or two at very high probability do this. Just count the days that each of the 3 missing Sums is out.  Like this ......  Sum 4 missing  18 days                        Sum 6 missing  37 days                        Sum 9 missing  48 days  For this to work ....... you must wait until the smallest amount of time that one of the 3 Missing Sums is out is at the least ........ 15 to 18 days.   This way you don't have to divide by 3. The divide by 3 thing is just to give you a better feel of how truly late or missing these sums really are.* Remember...... one of the 3 missing sums will show. Not necessarily the one missing the longest amount of time.            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                                                             Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.                               Odds never change .....but probability does.                                                                                        Win d
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Win d's Short Sum Chart....... and 4 Quarters

 A B 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 037 029 039 049 013 014 015 016 017 018 1> 2 127 038 057 058 059 023 079 025 035 027 3 136 047 129 067 149 069 169 034 125 036 4 145 056 138 148 158 078 178 124 134 045 2> 5 235 128 147 238 167 168 259 269 189 126 6 389 146 156 247 239 249 349 278 279 289 C D 7 479 236 237 256 257 258 358 368 369 469 3> 8 569 245 589 346 347 267 367 458 378 478 9 578 489 679 689 356 348 457 467 459 568 10 019 678 345 012 789 456 123 089 567 234 4> 11 028 137 048 139 068 159 024 179 026 135 12 046 579 246 157 248 357 268 359 468 379 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

 orangemanAmarillo/AustinUnited StatesMember #1424April 25, 2003696 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 11:05 amWay too complex for this little cotton picker from Texas to figure out . . .Orangeman
 winsumloosesumPhiladelpia/PennsylvaniaUnited StatesMember #2218September 1, 20036679 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 11:19 amWinD,Thanks for sharing your ideas.I noticed that Illinois Pick 3 Evening has the following:Digit #        Position 1          Position 2        Position 3            All Positions  2                    11                      32                    9                            9  7                    33                      27                    12                          12  8                    17                      8                        5                             5 Sums    Drawings Out  0                20  5                15  6                 33 wsls
 winsumloosesumPhiladelpia/PennsylvaniaUnited StatesMember #2218September 1, 20036679 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 11:41 amPossible Boxed combinations: No MatchCombinations containing any 1 of the 3 Digits (2, 7, and 8)  See Above PostSum 0037  479  028  127  235  389  578Sum 5168  249  258  357  023  078  367  348Sum 6259  358  024  079  178  367  457  123wsls
 WIN DThread StarterStone Mountain*GeorgiaUnited StatesMember #828November 2, 200210491 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 1:18 pmThanks Winsum. Your very nice to help me out. I don't seem able to write out my meanings on this at all well. I would give up if it wasn't so important as a filter. Thanks for that Ill. Eve. info ..... those 3 Sums are ripe.  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                                                             Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.                               Odds never change .....but probability does.                                                                                        Win d
 emilyg50United StatesMember #14November 9, 200131615 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 1:22 pmthankslove to nibble those micey feet.
 takeitezCarters Lake, Ga.United StatesMember #5313June 29, 20041065 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 1:39 pmWindy,  Using your short list, Tenn would be a play tonight.sum 3 out 23 dayssum 0 out 26 dayssum 1 out 39  days  Using another filter ; play numbers that contain at least one of the digits from the last two drawn numbers  I came up with 25 singles,  17 doubles  for a total of 42 numbers to play. I have posted them on the prediction pageez                   ........ in the long run........
 Sandy KClarkston, MichiganUnited StatesMember #76January 6, 20028528 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 3:59 pmWinD I am just starting to understand this and understand the value of it.....One question.....Is this a positional like  Position 1, Position 2 and Position3    basically the longest out in each position....Or is it the longest out regardless of position....like that all positions WSLS had....Okay say position 1 had a 6 out for 10 draws (it is the longest out in this position)say position 2 had a 9 out for 15 draws (it is the longest out in position 2)and say in Position 3 , the 2 has been out for 10 draws in this position BUT the 1 has been out for 8 draws...................what then?Combined postion (regardless of position), the 8 has been out for 12 draws....etc...which do we use........the 6,9,2  or  the 8,x,x.....Sandy
 winsumloosesumPhiladelpia/PennsylvaniaUnited StatesMember #2218September 1, 20036679 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 4:45 pmExample # 2:  Monday EveMass Pick 4 - Play Pick 3 using the Front 3 or Back 3 of the Pick 4 drawn.Mass Front 3:Digit    P1        P2        P3  5        5      18        28  6         13          6      8  8          6          8      14Sums    Drawings Out  2                  30  7                  22  9                  17wsls
 winsumloosesumPhiladelpia/PennsylvaniaUnited StatesMember #2218September 1, 20036679 PostsOffline August 15, 2005, 5:01 pmExample # 3:  Monday EveMichigan- Evening Drawing - Monday 8/15/05Digit    P1        P2        P3  3        10       6        5  6        5         7        21  8        7         15      26Sums    Drawings Out  6                  20  8                  17  9                  25wsls

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