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Beggars who leach off lottery winners

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dphillips's avatar - littleuns
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Posted: August 21, 2005, 8:27 pm - IP Logged

Honestly, I saw this question posted.  "Why is it that beggars leach off lottery winners?  Todd said: "uh, money." So, I do not take credit for this one.

The question should have been posed: "why is it that beggars only leach off lottery winners instead of the rich and famous?"

You never hear of Oprah, Bill Gates, Tom Cruise, the Hilton sisters, or Donald Trump being beckoned by leachers to give them money!  True, Oprah is very generous, and she should be congratulated because she does not have to give away anything to anyone, period. 

Therefore, would someone explain to me...why, then, are lottery winners easier targets?  I have even read some of the posts and most of you want to give to charities.  Well, do not post your generosity because you are setting yourselves up.  Now, the beggars know who to come to for help since you are in a generous mood.

True, the above (rich and famous) individuals have telephones and people definitely know where they live.  In fact, kidnapping is not on the beggars' minds.  The lottery winners have an advantage -- they can move and not remain in their neighborhoods. In fact, most lottery winners were not rich and famous before their windfalls.

TO THE BEGGARS: PLEASE BE FAIR AND CONSISTENT.  BEG FROM THE RICH AND FAMOUS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE MONEY!

Furthermore, I do not have the nerve to ask a lottery winner to help me because all I have to do is spend a $1.00 or more for my dream.  Really, some people have absolutely no class.  The strangers (not family) forget that the lottery winners are not related to them...not even a 33rd cousin -- twice removed!

Finally, maybe I am answering my own question...some lottery winners just cannot say, "no!" -- but the rich and the famous can.

 

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    Posted: August 21, 2005, 8:54 pm - IP Logged

     

     

    Finally, maybe I am answering my own question...some lottery winners just cannot say, "no!" -- but the rich and the famous can.

    that is probably why they are rich and famous

    the odds do not mean much to those who win the jackpot

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      Posted: August 21, 2005, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

      Some newspaper man asked a famous bank robber once why he robbed banks.


      "That's where the money is."

      Maybe that's true of the whole shebang.  Bill Gates might just be a middle classer putting on the dog.  No money to give to beggars.

      Eh?

      Jack

      Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

      It's about number behavior.

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        Posted: August 21, 2005, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

         

         

        Finally, maybe I am answering my own question...some lottery winners just cannot say, "no!" -- but the rich and the famous can.

        that is probably why they are rich and famous

        you got it.  I Agree!

        love to nibble those micey feet.

         

                                     

          RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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          Posted: August 21, 2005, 9:43 pm - IP Logged

          dphillips,

          Where have you been, you must have an unlisted telephone and no mailing address.  Now that you've revealed you can afford to waste a dollar on a lottery ticket, just put your e-mail address in your profile and you'll get some requests.  At Micheal Jackson trial, his accusers revealed he wasn't the first sucker they begged for money, Jay Lena and other turned them down, so they sought the help of someone who knew the soft touch suckers in Hollywood and found Jackson.  People like Oprah, Bill Gates and others get request but have people to handle such requests.  Some beggars consider begging their full time job, so they seek out anyone with a dollar.

          RJOh

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            four4me's avatar - gate1
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            Posted: August 21, 2005, 10:39 pm - IP Logged
            almost all of the rich and famous belong to or have public and or private foundations they either fund or are partnered in a trust with others of their financial caliber. The fact that the new voguish are targeted is they haven't started and endowment yet and or haven't the foggiest idea how to go about it. They are easy marks because they haven't had time to cool their wheels and the fact that many lottery winners live like well easy come easy go and end up giving till they are either financially strapped or at some breaking point.
            As did Jack Whitacker. He started a foundation that only lasted a few months. Had he of partnered with a popular foundation his money would still be put to good use instead he gave money through his foundation to just about anyone with a sob story.
            By the way Bill Gates has one of the largest foundations of them all and has donated money goods and services to just about every part of the world for some cause or another. 
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              Posted: August 21, 2005, 10:46 pm - IP Logged

              It's thread-drift.... I'll make it parenthetical (Four4me, you live anywhere near Emmitsburg?)

              Used to go there a lot in my work.... liked the place pretty well.

              Jack

              Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

              It's about number behavior.

              Egos don't count.

               

              Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

               


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                Posted: August 21, 2005, 11:00 pm - IP Logged

                I don't think I'll complain about it until I've actually won a multi-million dollar lottery.  Until then, it's somebody else's problem.  The people you have to watch out for are usually family members.  By virtue of being relations, they feel they have a right to make demands.

                  twisted's avatar - underground
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                  Posted: August 22, 2005, 12:12 am - IP Logged

                  Maybe its because most lottery winners are not already rich before they instantaneously become rich. So the "beggars" might think that the new millionaire might understand their situation and be generous because the winner might have been in the same position as them. Also, they might think it more acceptable to ask for money from some who didnt have to earn it.

                  This might be what is going on through the "beggars" mind.

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                    Posted: August 22, 2005, 8:00 am - IP Logged

                     

                     

                    Finally, maybe I am answering my own question...some lottery winners just cannot say, "no!" -- but the rich and the famous can.

                    that is probably why they are rich and famous

                    Exactly ! You hit it right on the head.  If you win the lottery, you have zero responsibility to give anything to anyone.  If you wish to, you can.  But I think lottery winners often give it away because they feel guilty they have won; like they don't deserve the winnings.  But the fact is that they did win, and therefore they do deserve it.

                    "No" isn't that hard to say.....start practicing it now. Just in case. Smile

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                      dphillips,

                      Where have you been, you must have an unlisted telephone and no mailing address.  Now that you've revealed you can afford to waste a dollar on a lottery ticket, just put your e-mail address in your profile and you'll get some requests.  At Micheal Jackson trial, his accusers revealed he wasn't the first sucker they begged for money, Jay Lena and other turned them down, so they sought the help of someone who knew the soft touch suckers in Hollywood and found Jackson.  People like Oprah, Bill Gates and others get request but have people to handle such requests.  Some beggars consider begging their full time job, so they seek out anyone with a dollar.

                      RJOh

                      People like Oprah, Bill Gates and others get request but have people to handle such requests.

                      There's reason to suspect that people who are already accustomed to having money adopt an entirely different way of looking at a whole range of issues involving it.  They're further removed from the hardships of not having any, or much of it, and they don't part with it easily.

                      A couple of examples:

                      Condo owners at Aspen won't rent out to the Kennedy Klan without having a major deposit up front to cover the costs of repairs after they trash the place.  That's the result of a visit several years ago where thousands of dollars of damage was done by the K family, but which they refused to pay for after they'd exited the scene.

                      Sierra County, New Mexico's probably still wondering what to do with the bill for a hospital visit by the Ted Turner bunch several years ago.  One of the party broke an arm .... compound fracture.  An emergency helicopter was sent (public cost) to deliver the person to a better hospital facility in Albuquerque.  Afterward, Turner refused to pay the bill.  Sierra County taxpayers got stuck with it.

                      These folks won't even pay legitimate expenses without being forced into it.  There's not much danger of them getting ripped off by some beggar.

                      Jack

                       

                      Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                      It's about number behavior.

                      Egos don't count.

                       

                      Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                       

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                        Posted: August 22, 2005, 6:04 pm - IP Logged

                         

                         

                        Finally, maybe I am answering my own question...some lottery winners just cannot say, "no!" -- but the rich and the famous can.

                        that is probably why they are rich and famous

                        Exactly ! You hit it right on the head.  If you win the lottery, you have zero responsibility to give anything to anyone.  If you wish to, you can.  But I think lottery winners often give it away because they feel guilty they have won; like they don't deserve the winnings.  But the fact is that they did win, and therefore they do deserve it.

                        "No" isn't that hard to say.....start practicing it now. Just in case. Smile

                          Damn straight!  Nobody's bumming money off me if I win!!

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                          Posted: August 22, 2005, 7:39 pm - IP Logged

                          Money's always been bad about bringing out the most admirable human traits.  Even contemplating the remote prospect of it seems to do the job.

                          Jack

                          Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                          It's about number behavior.

                          Egos don't count.

                           

                          Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                           


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                            If I win the lottery, I plan to enjoy it.  I might even take the unusual choice of having them mail the check to me once a year so I can experience the feeling of laughing all the way to the bank.  (I live about 1 1/2 miles from the nearest branch.)  I don't understand the proliferation of threads complaining about what would happen when no one's won anything yet. 

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                              Posted: August 23, 2005, 5:33 pm - IP Logged

                               

                               

                              Finally, maybe I am answering my own question...some lottery winners just cannot say, "no!" -- but the rich and the famous can.

                              that is probably why they are rich and famous

                              Exactly ! You hit it right on the head.  If you win the lottery, you have zero responsibility to give anything to anyone.  If you wish to, you can.  But I think lottery winners often give it away because they feel guilty they have won; like they don't deserve the winnings.  But the fact is that they did win, and therefore they do deserve it.

                              "No" isn't that hard to say.....start practicing it now. Just in case. Smile

                              I Agree!

                              Seems a couple of conclusions are being drawn by this thread.
                              (1)  The rich and famous just might have worked to get where they are so establish foundations which help people help themselves.  The old adage of "teach a man to fish and he can feed himself" .... 
                              (2)  Beggars don't want to put out the effort to learn to feed themselves so go after easy marks. 

                              Good luck to everyone!