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Posted: September 6, 2005, 9:47 pm - IP Logged

Hello

...Does anyone have any suggestions on how to use the gaps between

the numbers of past drawings?

Thanx

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    Posted: September 7, 2005, 1:22 am - IP Logged

    I tried that and abandoned it for the time being, might go back to checking that again later, there are several possible ways of looking at and using the gaps, they are interesting to study, but I didn't spend enough time on them yet. Also gaps is a very general term, there is more than one kind of gap.

    I can't talk about gaps, because that is one of my private lottery studies.

    As to how good gaps might be for filterimg and or getting the winning number, I don't know yet, I need to study them much more.

    BowlDog was trying to use them and had some ideas, maybe you might want to look at his posts.

    Are you from Alabama ? There is no lottery there. Right ?

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      Posted: September 7, 2005, 9:37 am - IP Logged

      I am not sure of the range of suggestions you are willing to entertain so i will take a chance and give you my suggestion.

      Do not use gaps to select lottery numbers. There is no relationship between one draw and the next.

      Good luck,
      Jake

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        Posted: September 7, 2005, 9:59 am - IP Logged

        I've gotta throw in my two cents.  Gaps are extremely useful in predicting the next draw.  You're going to get a whole range of opinions here at the LP, just got to decide what works for you.

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          I agree more with Jag331 than with Jake649, I would not have myself said "Extremely usefull", but from what little I have so far studied them, I say that they can be usefull or as usefull as anything else can be for the lottery if used just right.

          I know enough about range gaps to say that they are one of the big keys to winning.

          I also know of many different kinds of gaps there are so many different kinds of them, I study them a little at a time on and off, to me, filters are almost legion and range gaps are also almost legion.

          You can learn a lot from range gaps about the lottery games.

          But don't get me wrong, the ping pong balls as they say, don't have no memory of any numbers or draws.

          But I would never say that there is no relationship between one draw and another or the next, there is no direct relationship of course, but there is a "Random Statistical Relationship" that connects them, that it is just as good or almost as good as a direct relationship.

          As a filters patterns person I have seen this.

          To me the term "Random Statistics" is an oxymoron, or a contradiction of terms, because if something has statistics as lottery numbers do, then they can't be truly random, A paradox ? I don't know !

          I have always said that there is no such thing as random.

          And statistics prove it, if not over the very short run, then over a longer one they will.

          The make up of the game(s) and "Random" itself will equalize the statistics over long runs and time. They will always be almost the same statistics, the same repeated statistics over and over and over and over again.

          There is nothing random about that, that I can see, I only see order, the universe is an ordered place. Even so called "Pseudo" random follows an underlying order or rules or universal laws that NEVER change.

          God is not a random God but a lord of order and rules or laws.

          To the unknowing and or untrained mind or unaware mind, there appears to be "Random Chaos", the only random chaos is evil itself and it is not so random either, even it has its degree of order.

          The most random and chaotic thing that there is, is the mind and it has it's underlying reasons for its apparent chaotic behavior, nothing random there either.

          Good luck. And sorry about going off on a tangent.

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            Posted: September 7, 2005, 5:03 pm - IP Logged

            Gap should be defined so everyone is on the same page.  For some, gap is the difference between adjacent numbers in a combination that has been sorted and for others, gap is the difference between drawings that a numbers has been drawn (referred to by some as skip and hits).

            RJOh

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              Posted: September 7, 2005, 5:08 pm - IP Logged

              Good point RJOh.  I don't know what allwinners had in mind, but I think both approaches have merit.

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                Posted: September 8, 2005, 6:24 am - IP Logged

                thanx for all the suggestions......I'm from Michigan.

                I am using Gail Howards software, and it has a chart for the "gaps" but I don't see where she suggests how to use this chart.  It seems that there might be a way to guess how close the next drawing numbers would be to one another.

                 

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                  Posted: September 8, 2005, 7:48 pm - IP Logged

                  Look at the last few drawings of MegaMillions:

                  08/02/05  - 17 22 39 50 52  +46
                  08/05/05  - 03 05 48 50 53  +04
                  08/09/05  - 13 35 36 43 52  +05
                  08/12/05  - 08 37 38 45 54  +21
                  08/16/05  - 09 15 20 24 55  +03
                  08/19/05  - 02 13 18 36 46  +36
                  08/23/05  - 06 07 08 13 40  +12
                  08/26/05  - 05 20 38 47 54  +35
                  08/31/05  - 19 32 42 49 56  +29
                  09/02/05  - 01 04 14 45 53  +33
                  09/06/05  - 01 08 27 31 50  +40

                  Type of gaps:

                   Gaps between numbers within each combinations
                    range of gaps =1 to 43, 50% of them = 7,1,5,2,9,10
                   
                   Gaps between drawings that numbers were drawn
                    range = 1 to 53 drawings, 50% of them = 6,7,3,1,4,9

                  In both cases the majority of the numbers were 10 or lower but only covered half the numbers in the combinations which leads me to think that using such a parameter might increase your chances of matching 3 of the numbers but not matching all 5.

                  For the next MegaMillions drawing make up a list of combinations of numbers from the last 10 drawings with gaps within the combinations of 10 or less and compared them to a list of the same size of randomly picked numbers with no restriction and see what happens.  Doing the same for several drawings will give you the answer you seek.

                  RJOh

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                    Posted: September 8, 2005, 8:06 pm - IP Logged

                    Wow Rjoh that's beautiful!

                    thank you for your example......I'm thinking that you must do pretty well with the lottery, huh?

                    this is a really nice forum and I hope to learn enough to share with you all someday.....thanx everyone 

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                      Posted: September 9, 2005, 8:18 am - IP Logged

                      we;reallwinners,

                      Actually I don't do any better than the average lottery players, but I did get lucky once and  matched 5of6 in the State lottery which is not great for the number of years I've been playing. 

                      Testing and quantizing the effects of different parameters on the numbers drawn is part of the fun of playing lotteries for me and it helps me develop my strategy for picking combinations to play.  I prefer to pick my own numbers although I have no proof that my numbers are any better than QPs.  Good luck to you.

                      RJOh 

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                        Posted: September 10, 2005, 10:40 am - IP Logged

                        FROM PREVIOUS POST
                        Type of gaps:

                          Gaps between numbers within each combinations
                          range of gaps =1 to 43, 50% of them = 7,1,5,2,9,10
                         
                         
                        Gaps between drawings that numbers were drawn
                          range = 1 to 53 drawings, 50% of them = 6,7,3,1,4,9

                        In both cases the majority of the numbers were 10 or lower but only covered half the numbers in the combinations which leads me to think that using such a parameter might increase your chances of matching 3 of the numbers but not matching all 5.
                                              _______________________________________

                        The winning number for 09/09/05 was 15 28 43 51 52 +11
                         with gaps of 13 15 8 and 1 - gaps of 8 and 1 were between 43 51 52
                         numbers 15 last hit 7 draws back - 43 and 52 last hit 9 draws back and
                         51 and 28 last hit 15 and 27 draws back

                        Using either or both of the most popular gap parameters would have only covered 3 of the numbers as previous observations suggested.

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
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