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Posted: September 11, 2005, 9:12 pm - IP Logged

Guys, i feel that they need to come up with an online lottery [a lottery not affiliated with states lotteries] and with different configurations..so that people can play them on the internet...I am not talking about your state lottery been oline but about an independent lottery been drawn online, using Random number generators....I think it will be a wonderful lottery...Right now it is against the law to play state lottery on the internet, but what i am talking about would be a different lottery played on the internet, not state lotteries....

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    Posted: September 11, 2005, 9:27 pm - IP Logged

    Michael Brown,

    Actually, I think you have things a bit reversed:

    The state lotteries are the LEGAL lotteries that you can play.  If you want your friend in Florida to buy some lottery tickets for you, then that's fine, right?  We'll that's what a service like Prime Ticket Service does.  That's all and good. 

    In fact, there have been several jackpots won by people who bought tickets using lottery services like Prime Ticket Service, and every single person who won using a service was able to legally claim their prize.  Every single one.  I think that settles the point on lottery services.

    The things that are NOT LEGAL are sites like and Lottery Universe, which DO NOT buy the real lottery tickets.  They make you THINK that they are buying real government lottery tickets, but in reality, they take your money and stick it in their pocket, and NEVER BUY YOUR LOTTERY TICKET FOR YOU.  It even says so on their web sites, if you take the time to read the fine print.

    The shameful thing is that they take great care to show you the current jackpots and current results, and set up all the screens so that they look like they are going to buy you lottery tickets.  But it's all a scam.  and Lottery Universe never buy your real lottery tickets, plain and simple. 

    There are other such scamming web sites, but those seem to be the biggest.

    The other thing that is NOT LEGAL is when people do as you suggest and create their own lottery and sell you tickets for it.  Whether it's over the Internet, or over the fence of your back yard, if someone takes your money and puts it in a private lottery pool, it's called being a bookmaker, and it's ILLEGAL.

    Would it be NICE to have private lotteries out there to choose from?  Maybe, and maybe not.

    Sure, the variety and better prize structures would be nice, but the CORRUPTION and SCAMS that would result from it would far outweigh any benefit, in my opinion.

    With the popularity of the Internet, can you imagine how many scam artists would take people's money for some supposed "lottery", and then just run off to a tropical island with the millions in their pocket instead of holding a drawing?

     

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      Posted: September 11, 2005, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

      Do you not understand the honest lotteries are state run, at least those that broadcast actual lottery drawings.  Any drawing that takes place in a computer is not only questionable, but if hosted by an online for profit lottery, they would be stupid not to include a means to control the outcome.  Online lotteries of this nature are raffles where the prize is paid for by the players at no risk to the host.  There are no winners until the prize(s) have been paid for.  Do you really think someone would be so foolish as to take the odds there won't be a jackpot winner on the first draw?  These guys are not in business to give away millions.

      Besides, no one would be interested in creating a lottery you could win and yes the casinos pay experts to check the odds of any new game created. 

      If you have any lottery software with an international data base you can find almost any size normal lottery you could think of, after that it's just a matter of figuring out how to play it from where you are and if that made a difference why is the game still being played where it is if it were easier enough to win, maybe there is an aspect of the game you don't understand like the WV 6/25 game that sounds easy until you see what the prizes are. 

      As for what's legal, we live in the land of freedom, right . . .

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        Posted: September 12, 2005, 10:16 pm - IP Logged

        I remember that there used to be a lottery website before lottery universe came out where you could buy your state lottery ticket....I know exactly what lottery universe does...What i am saying is that they need to create private lotteries, lotteries that would have no affiliation with the state.....The problem would come in broacasting the drawings....I heard that all lotteries in the world are government run...I wish that there was some that were own by people....I also heard that 50% of the money gathered by the state is required by law to be return to players as lower prizes...The other 50% goes into paying retailers and to fund education or whatever the cause of your particular state maybe...IN Georgia a good portion of the money raised by the lottery commission anually goes into funding education (I am talking billions of dollars here)...

        NOw imagine if there was a privately lottery that would use only 20% percent of the money gathered and return 80% of it to players as lower prizes....Wouldn't that be wonderful???Imagine a lprivate lottery that doesn't have to raise money to fund anything????wouldn't that be wonderful????

        Also did you know that there are infinate ways to make a lottery easy to play yet hard to crack...I personally like WV 6/25 i think it is an easy lottery..I feel that they should come up with a private lottery that has 6/30, 4/39, etc...Also did you know that in order to make a lottery hard to crack you don't have to add more combinations/numbers to it but add letters..Yeah have a lottery with numbers and letters mixed...This would make lottery hard to crack...Why because there aren't presently any lottery software that would wheel letters (or cards) and numbers together....And if there were softwares they would not be mass produced they would only be created for that particular lottery (it currently take 2 to 3 years to create a good lottery software)....a lottery that has 5 numbers drawn (numbers mixed with letters), from a range of 39 carries the same weight as a lottery that selects 6 numbers (numbers alone) from a range of 49..Despite that a 6 ball lottery has far more combinations than the 5 ball lottery...I dream of the day when there would be a vast amount of lottery configurations some been offered by the state others privately own..

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          Posted: September 12, 2005, 11:11 pm - IP Logged

          Michael Brown,

          There seems to be a common problem that when I'm writing something, you're not reading the whole thing, or maybe just ignoring some of it.  I'm glad you're bringing up the subject, but not too happy that my content is being ignored.

          I explained about private lotteries in my thread above -- in great detail.  Please take a look again.

          The only thing about private lotteries that I imagine is some crook taking my money and running off to the Caribbean, laughing all the way to the bank, muttering something that PT Barnum would say.

           

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            Posted: September 13, 2005, 6:34 pm - IP Logged

            Guys if there were to create a lotto website where they host a private lottery, they would eliminate having to pay the retailers because people would buy their tickets from the internet instead of having to go to gas stations....It would cut a lot of money from been spent...

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              Posted: September 13, 2005, 7:34 pm - IP Logged

              A lottery is no better than the people you can sue if you get cheated.  Who do you think is more likely to show up for a law suit, an e-mail address or the State?  Besides, the courts won't help you if you are playing a game that is not legal in their state.  Retailers don't work for nothing and neither do people running lotteries over the Internet.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Sorry guys, this dude Pumpi76 sounds like he's from some other solar system. Because he sure doesn't sound like he has any common sense one in his freakin head! All I can say from this day forward is that I will ignore any and all posting from this guy! What I mean is, it's one thing to have some questions about some of the games or systems that some of the LP members on here use. But this guy seems to be so dead set in being incredibly unwilling to listen to anyone other than his own dumb(_|_) ideas about lotteries!

                Sorry Everyone for my harsh words but someone here needs to speak-up!

                Again Everyone, I Greatly Do Apologize To You All. 

                Keep dreaming the impossible dream, it just may come true! Thumbs Up

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                  Posted: September 13, 2005, 10:42 pm - IP Logged

                  Sorry guys, this dude Pumpi76 sounds like he's from some other solar system. Because he sure doesn't sound like he has any common sense one in his freakin head! All I can say from this day forward is that I will ignore any and all posting from this guy! What I mean is, it's one thing to have some questions about some of the games or systems that some of the LP members on here use. But this guy seems to be so dead set in being incredibly unwilling to listen to anyone other than his own dumb(_|_) ideas about lotteries!

                  Sorry Everyone for my harsh words but someone here needs to speak-up!

                  Again Everyone, I Greatly Do Apologize To You All. 

                  LOL I guess you'll be making use of some of the new features on the Buddy/Block List!

                   

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                    Sorry guys, this dude Pumpi76 sounds like he's from some other solar system. Because he sure doesn't sound like he has any common sense one in his freakin head! All I can say from this day forward is that I will ignore any and all posting from this guy! What I mean is, it's one thing to have some questions about some of the games or systems that some of the LP members on here use. But this guy seems to be so dead set in being incredibly unwilling to listen to anyone other than his own dumb(_|_) ideas about lotteries!

                    Sorry Everyone for my harsh words but someone here needs to speak-up!

                    Again Everyone, I Greatly Do Apologize To You All. 

                    I don't at all like having to say this, but I Agree!  , when you are right, you are right.

                    I was going to say that myself, but I didn't dare to, I am glad that somebody did.

                    Very sorry, but it does appear to be the truth.

                    I wanted to be neutral on this, but can't.

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                      Plus Lotto is a private lottery that supports the international red cross, no advantage to playing it.  In the UK local hospital districts and such host lotteries.

                      A, B, C, 4,  E, F, G, 8, I, J, K, 12,

                      A = 1
                      B = 2
                      C = 3

                      Not so tricky, steve player used to make his wheels out of letters  so as not to confuse his customers exchanging their numbers for the wheel pointer poisitions.

                      Doesn't matter whether 50% of the take is paid out in prizes or 90%, the game is just as hard to win unless you're thinking of buying all the combinations when the prize grows large enough. BobP

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                        Posted: September 14, 2005, 11:29 pm - IP Logged

                        I just want to say that i am free to post my idea, and if anybody doesn't like them well that's their problem...I don't care if the whole world disagree with me or doesn't like what i write..YOu don't have to read what i write...

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                          Posted: September 15, 2005, 12:30 am - IP Logged

                          I just want to say that i am free to post my idea, and if anybody doesn't like them well that's their problem...I don't care if the whole world disagree with me or doesn't like what i write..YOu don't have to read what i write...

                          michael brown

                          The problem is that we are all reading what you write, and we respond to it, but YOU don't read what WE write and respond to it.

                           

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