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Ken Ring on the Moon

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Posted: September 17, 2005, 4:59 am - IP Logged
  A Case for the Moon

We all know the Sun radiates heat to the ground and causes evaporation, from the puddles on the footpath to the oceans and rain forests, yet there is no way the Sun can cause the evaporation to fall back to the Earth. Moreover, it can rain at night, when there is no Sun in the sky. The Sun cannot make it rain or snow, something else must be responsible. There is only one other thing in the sky capable of exerting the necessary huge forces that would be required.
The Moon has about one sixth of the Earth’s gravitational force. From only a couple of hundred thousand miles away, changes in the Moon's orbital patterns are going to have major effects on Earth. Between a third and a quarter the size of Earth, the Moon is equivalent in size to a smaller person running around and around an adult, all day every day. Ask yourself, would that affect you? Better still, ask the mother of a two-year-old.

Simply stated, changes in the Moon’s movement can trigger changes in our weather. How it works is really rather logical but scientists seem to have a vested interest in not stating it. Possible reasons for this political manoeuvring will soon become clearer.
Meteorologists utilise sea level or sea surface temperature analysis as tools in forecasting, Because sea tides/levels/temps are affected by many lunar factors, including synodic cycle, apsidal cycle(perigee/apogee), apsidal angle, declination angle, declination hemisphere, inclination, nodal or nutation cycle, apsidal cycle, anaomalistic cycle, tide cycle, variable diurnalism, moon’s angular momentum crossing ecliptic and equator, tide times and other cycles within cycles; it is hard to see how can they rule out the Moon as an empirical variable. And that is not even mentioning secondary (arguably lunar) factors such as wind speed and force, high and low pressure zones, cycles of currents, land movement etc. By virtue of tides and gravitational pull the Moon has its stamp on anything to do with the oceans.




It is little known that there are at least four separate but sometimes interfacing tides caused by lunar gravitation. The best known is the sea-tide, the exact times of which repeat every so many weeks, months and years. There is also the inner-core tide affecting the molten core of the Earth(Core Tide) which plays a major role in the cycles of earthquakes and eruptions, the land-tide (called Earth-tide, where the ground rises towards the Moon about 8 inches per day as the Moon goes overhead and then recedes again when the Moon goes below the horizon) and the air-tide affecting the height of the atmosphere. If the Moon has an effect on the sea then it must control the tides by distribution of the water. So is it too silly to state that if it has an effect on the atmosphere then it must control the weather by distribution of the clouds?

Why should clouds, air, land and inner mantle not be tidal?
They are masses of flexible matter. As masses they are subject to the pull of a large gravitational body such as a close Moon. The movable fluids on Earth would like to fly off into space toward the Moon, but are more strongly held to Earth by the Earth’s gravity and so remain on the Earth’s surface. But the inconstant Moon causes these fluids to be in flux. The Sun, too, has a tidal pull on these fluid bodies, but being much further away, has a pull less than half that of the Moon. So how does the Moon's gravitational force overcome the gravity of the Earth, and affect those movable masses? The answer is that there are times when Earth's gravitational force is nullified, and these are special positions of the Sun and Moon and planets, from which forces from above can effect changes on Earth. 

It is the old principles of Astrology that we should be turning back to to re-examine, the subject that people with Higher Learning imagine to be at worst the stuff of the Devil or at best only a silly party game. When it comes to the Old Astrology, the Moon was the central player, the Moon established the pivot from which everything else related.

    "Etymologically speaking, our word measurement came from moon."



At only ten earth-circumferences away the Moon is very close, actually it is our closest celestial neighbour, and it has two and a half times the gravitational pull of the Sun. Therefore it exerts an influence on everything movable on our planet, be it solid, liquid or gas. Much of this influence is barely noticeable because there is nothing to compare it too, like the rising of the land towards the transiting moon, called the Earth Tide, and the receding of it back again within 24 hours. Part of the problem is that we are very locked in to what we can see, and that goes for our technology, in which we only believe that which we can see through instruments of our own making. But does that not mean that forces do not exist for which we have not yet invented instruments to measure.


Each Moon phase has a changing effect on the weather, whether it be droughts, hurricanes, tornadoes or lightning. And as the atmosphere has its daily tide, the air density too is forever changing. If it did not, barometric pressures would always remain constant. The volume of air changes just as does the volume of sea water in a bay during high SEA tide, but we can see that. We can't see a high AIR tide because we haven't yet invented an instrument to detect it. Yet by deduction we can conclude that it must occur. To put it another way, it would be very odd if the Moon chose to daily pull upward the sea and land but decided against daily changing the height of the massiveocean of air.

Every New moon time, for two or three days, the Moon shields us from the solar wind; that electromagnetic energy force-field sent forth into space by the Sun. Older cultures and civilisations knew that at this time of maximum shielding, the New moon period was the best time for planting and fishing, and so over thousands of years grew the lunar planting and fishing calendar.

Since 1976 satellite data coming from NASA suggests that these ancient lunar calendar systems that were used to determine seasonal climatic fluctuations indeed had a sound scientific basis. NASA is currently collecting aerial evidence of ancient stone circles, and last year (I know because I was there)discreetly surveyed in NZ, the large ancient stone circle at Mangonui Bluff near Dargaville which displays the same diameter dimensions as Stonehenge(288 feet), which some claim could be further proof of the existence of the Indo/Egypto/European culture in NZ many thousands of years ago.


This supports the legends of Ngapuhi and Tuhoe tribes about the elusive white-skinned Patu-paiarehe, Urekuhu and Turehu peoples. These are mentioned from the north of NZ to the Ureweras in Maori oral tradition, and it seems along with other now-vanquished tribes they were hunted to extinction. Some historians hold the view that the Polynesians started as an originally Caucasian race in the foothills of the Himalayas. Researcher Richard Holdaway has found, catalogued and carbon-dated rat-bones 2,000-years old from natural predator sites around Taupo in NZ, and his team have confirmed that rats could only have been brought here by man.


It seems that the prehistory of NZ needs to be written, and my reason for stating this is that the seeming reluctance to do so parallels the reluctance on the part of meteorologists to mention the Moon in weather forecasts. Many agriculturalists would like to learn about the true science of weather, so they might be furnished with their own forecasting tools if they were available, the lack of which at the moment means they are unable to plan ahead for more than 2 or 3 days and this impacts on their livelihoods.


The parallel gies further. Schoolchildren are taught that ancient peoples came here by accidental voyaging, by navigating by the stars. With respect to historians, both can't be true. If you don't know where you're going, what are you looking up for? Lost in a pitch black night, the most intricate map will be of no help. There is no Maori word for Australia, not only the nearest island to NZ but also the world's biggest. If accidentally voyaging or if migrating by a star-map then you'd think Australia would at least once get a mention as in "if you hit dot dot dot you've gone too far. In a similar way we are told that we are accidental voyaging with the weather(it is out of control, we don't know what is going to happen or where the climate is going) and that we are at one and the same time navigating way off(aha..we can see we are heading for global warming).

I believe  the ancient peoples knew where they were going. I believe they either sailed here with good maps or were brought here by others who had the maps. Tongaroa, who commanded the "canoes" was described as a chief with white skin. There were maps of the southern ocean in existence 20,000 years ago. They were stored in the libraries of Alexandra, and some are shown and described in the book Ancient Maps of The Sea Kings(by Charles Hopgood). It is very likely that Euro/Indy traders from ancient times distributed work-gangs of many races, including Asian, Melanesian and Polynesian peoples all over the Pacific to establish colonial outposts, which would explain why the Hawaiian language is so understandable to today's speaker of Maori and why Moriori and some Maori appear frizzy-haired, some straight and some with Asian characteristics. It would also explain how two tribal names, Tainui and Arawa are found on S America. Even Captain Cook believed the Maori were brought to NZ as slaves. All this is not to denigrate present-day Maori status, but simply to accord Maori a rightful place in the nation's history. Similarly I believe the old peoples knew about the moon and the weather, and set up stone circles to measure the progress of both.

The old still works 
One might say that moon-weather knowledge so old, it can now be considered new again. Due to the decoding work of the structure of stone circles during the last few decades, we can guess that lunar orbit calculation was probably well known  12,000 or more years ago. All the ancient stone circles are aligned to the Moon in the same way. The smaller ones are ratio replicas of Stonehenge, indicating the same system was utilised internationally. It seems stone-circle builders were obsessed with lunar declination and nodal crossings - almost certainly for weather, long range climate and for eclipse prediction. The vast ancient wisdom began to disappear with the destroying by the early Christians of the libraries of Alexandria, in their hopes of destroying paganism of which the Moon had become the

 paramount symbol.



"Why do you think 13 is considered 'unlucky'? 13 was always known as the Moon's number, because 13 features so much in the mathematics of the Moon's orbits - 13 full and new moons each year, 13 declination cycles, 13 perigees and apogees, and the Moon moves 13 deg per day through space in its monthly orbit around the earth. Lesser known are orbit anomalies that occur at roughly 13 weeks and 13 years. Examples: every 13 years the phases recur(just over a week later). Every 26 years the opposite phase and apse occur about the same time. Every 31 years(18+13) the opposite phase of the Moon occurs about two days later. Every 5 years(18-13) the opposite phase occurs(about 3 weeks later) with a single relation to the apse..


Poor old 13 got itself declared unlucky, evil, heretic and powerless by the new religious order that wanted to distance you from anything that even reminded you of the Moon. They did a number on it, so to speak. Bear in mind that to even talk about this in the Middle Ages as we are doing now would have meant certain torture and death and future residence in hell. You are all sinners."


The old forecasting science went into decline and in some cases underground for two millennia and has continued to be largely ignored by mainstream science. Lunar forecasting was done by Theophrastus in 300BC, by Copernicus, Galileo, Nostradamus, Johannes Kepler, Sir Isaac Newton, Sir Francis Bacon four centuries ago and in 1750 by Benjamin Franklin. Each was a lunar forecaster and put out an Almanac predicting weather. Each one who did it got himself into hot water politically. Still alive in those eastern cultures that have retained their lunar calendars, it became far less common in the western world as the new religion demanded the newer solar calendar.


Nowadays the idea of a lunar orientation is slowly becoming reawakened as people begin to realise the benefits that can be gained. This is a way for the common person to once again be able to predict weather trends for him/herself without having to watch the TV and be forced to see the advertisers' products. One day weather-science will once again be reachable by commonfolk, instead of being just another profit-driven industry.

Forecasters do their best with the tools available, but when put on the spot most will admit to having no longrange method. They have inherited a science that has large gaps, along with a refusal to consider cycles, opting instead for a linear mindset whereby weather and climate are believed to be getting steadily and mysteriously worse for the whole planet.


One would think that science would be open to the introduction of new testable ideas and possibilities, but such is not the case. The Moon and acquiring any further knowledge about it is still actively suppressed as being a pagan activity and the mere mention of the Moon still sometimes creates fear and hostility. Also suppressed is any discussion about it, on NZ weather forums or in the newspapers. I know because I've tried and been told that Moon theories and methods have no place in Our Science.

I have good-naturedly been called a "lunatic" in TV interviews and on radio, a gentle fobbing off. The labels 'snake oil', New Age, voodoo, hocus pocus, lunatic etc become par for the course amongst skeptics who, rather than investigate the orbits and behaviour of the Moon and correlate that to weather events in any scientific way, find it easier to guffaw and smirk - a process some might call job protection. Well, I suppose everyone has to eat.


Unfortunately for these skeptics many academically respectable research papers have been done linking Moon influence with weather. I compiled a book 'Predicting Weather By The Moon' in which I cited from 30 such university-level research conclusions, all listed in the appendix. Much work has been done and it has not been challenged, and the results are waiting to be incorporated into weather science, but sad to say most climate and weather scientists simply refuse to focus on the Moon beyond sea tides. Air tides are definitely a no-no. One wonders what there was to be afraid of.

Perhaps the universities, the media and the government, in other words The Establishment, do not want another viewpoint popularised. Perhaps there is more revenue in maintaining the knowledge status quo. Perhaps there is a fear of one day having to admit one might have been unaware of the whole story when one wrote the weather textbooks. Or perhaps it is just the fear of change.


There is much to learn about the Moon and her fascinating movements - information most would not have learned at school. And even now in the 21st century, information about the orbital behaviour of our nearest celestial neighbour can mostly only be found in back-alley astrology shops. Pick up any popular book about weather in your nearest book shop and look for 'moon' in the index. It is a rare book that even will be found to list the planet, let alone give it any role. But like it or not, the study of lunar cycles holds the key to understanding weather.

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    Posted: September 17, 2005, 10:24 pm - IP Logged

    Nice thread.  Thanks.


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      Posted: September 17, 2005, 10:53 pm - IP Logged

      The moon has strange affects on humans as it does the weather. Good article..!


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        Posted: September 17, 2005, 11:13 pm - IP Logged

        You are so right Maddog,an yes,this is a very intresting article,hmmm...woke me up,that's for sure... haha                                                                              Sad Wavey