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Posted: December 11, 2005, 5:40 pm - IP Logged

I am new to this forum and to lottery systems.  I noticed that in my state lottery (6 numbers out of 40) very frequently 5 or 6 of the winning numbers come from the last 10 drawings.

Around 33 numbers are repeated in 10 drawings.  Excluding the numbers in the last drawing brings the count down to 27.

Wheeling 27 numbers for a chance of hitting 5 of the 6 winning numbers can be very expensive.

Any ideas on how to eliminate some of the numbers?

Thanks to this wonderful forum.

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    Posted: December 11, 2005, 7:14 pm - IP Logged

    Hi, Fortuna.

     Check this thread by dynodyno.  I was just reading it and so can't comment on it because I don't understand it yet, but there is some very good info in there which may help you, especially if you combine it with any other knowledge you have gained from experience.

    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/123682

    Don't forget to rely on your intuition, too. :) 

     

     

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      Posted: December 12, 2005, 2:53 am - IP Logged

      I am new to this forum and to lottery systems.  I noticed that in my state lottery (6 numbers out of 40) very frequently 5 or 6 of the winning numbers come from the last 10 drawings.

      Around 33 numbers are repeated in 10 drawings.  Excluding the numbers in the last drawing brings the count down to 27.

      Wheeling 27 numbers for a chance of hitting 5 of the 6 winning numbers can be very expensive.

      Any ideas on how to eliminate some of the numbers?

      Thanks to this wonderful forum.

      Bang Head

      You'll find some ideas on eliminating some numbers here . . .

      http://www.lotto-logix.com/lotteryarticles.html

      You can generally eliminate 10 to 12 numbers correctly 50% of the time, it's all downhill from there, but it helps to remember eliminating  only 6 numbers reduces the overall number of combinations to below half.  BobP

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        Posted: December 12, 2005, 11:14 am - IP Logged


        Fortuna said:

        "Excluding the numbers in the last drawing brings the count down to 27."


        Have you checked the drawing history to see how often one or more of the numbers in the last draw repeat in the next draw? IMHO, I don't think you should always just throw out all of the numbers from the last drawing without doing some additional analysis on them first.

         

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          Posted: December 12, 2005, 12:45 pm - IP Logged

          I have checked the drawing history.  About 40% of the time the last draw's number do not repeat.  Otherwise 1 or 2 numbers from the last draw are repeated.

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            Posted: December 12, 2005, 4:02 pm - IP Logged

            I have checked the drawing history.  About 40% of the time the last draw's number do not repeat.  Otherwise 1 or 2 numbers from the last draw are repeated.


            So (obviously) that means about 60% of the time, in the past 10 draws, one or two of the numbers from the last draw are repeated. That's a very interesting statistic. Given that information, I would probably keep the numbers from the last draw, or try to determine if there was a certain pattern of repeated numbers and try to decide which ones to keep. Is your state 6/40 game ball drawn or computer drawn?

            Also, have you looked at the drawing history to see how many of the winning numbers come from the last 5 drawings? Or the last 3 drawings? In addition to the past 10 draws, I'd want to look at how many of the winning numbers come from the last 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 drawings.

            It would take some time, but it might reveal some interesting trends. I'd start with analyzing the past 5 drawings first.

             

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              Posted: December 12, 2005, 10:09 pm - IP Logged

              Thanks MrBobb.  Here are some statistics for the past 1, 5 and 10 drawings:

                                                     Last Draw.    Last 5 Draw.      Last 10 Draw.

              0 numbers repeated              41%                    1%                      0%

              only 1 number repeated        32%                    6%                       0%

              only 2 numbers repeated        27%                  11%                      2%

              only 3 numbers repeated          0%                  32%                    12%

              only 4 numbers repeated          0%                  33%                    16%

              only 5 numbers repeated          0%                  15%                    51%

              6 numbers repeated                  0%                    2%                    19%

               

              I used the last 100 drawings to compute these statistics.

              By the way, my state is Louisiana and the lotto drawings are computer generated.

               

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                Posted: December 12, 2005, 10:24 pm - IP Logged

                Fortuna,

                It is a shame that you are relegated to playing the Louisiana Lotto. I would bet good money that the game is rigged. You would be better off doing analysis on numbers for a state that is mechanically drawn, then opt for a time to go and play. I will be in Louisiana this weekend, but as my playing partner and I say: "Playing a computer generated lottery is akin to taking your money, turning it upside down, and setting fire to it". 

                Don't do it.  Instead, you may want to analyze Powerball as if it is a pick 5, then analyze the powerball separately.

                 

                "Life is like a box of chocolates...you can speculate on what you're going to get through trial and error"




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                  Posted: December 12, 2005, 11:35 pm - IP Logged

                  here's a simple method...

                  1. ask me which numbers I would skip.

                  2.play those numbers.

                  works all the time :-(

                  Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                    Posted: December 13, 2005, 1:13 am - IP Logged
                               

                    here's a simple method...

                    1. ask me which numbers I would skip.

                    2.play those numbers.

                    works all the time :-(

                    getting a little big headed are ya????

                    hahahaha

                    hey I didnt know the posts were monitored for bad words or likeness...

                     

                     

                     

                    did you see what i just said???

                    haha

                    ok i need sleep.