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a law banning all computerized drawings

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what would you vote on a law banning all computerized drawings in america

yes...ban all computerized draws [ 37 ]  [84.09%]
no...keep all computerized drawings [ 3 ]  [6.82%]
not sure [ 4 ]  [9.09%]
Total Valid Votes [ 44 ]  
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Posted: December 23, 2005, 3:42 am - IP Logged

after the fiasco in kansas where the same pick 3 number comes up three days in a row.don't this set a good example that computerized draws don't work???

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    Posted: December 23, 2005, 3:55 am - IP Logged

    after the fiasco in kansas where the same pick 3 number comes up three days in a row.don't this set a good example that computerized draws don't work???

    LottoMike,

    Computerized drawing work but, they have flaws just like ball drawings have a bias to them.

    I voted not sure becuase I have made a lot of money off the PA Mid-Day in the last 3 months.


    It's computerized and I don't have a problem with it....as long as I'm winning!!

    I'm wondering something. 3 nights same #'s. hmm I thought they rotate machines.

    PP

    Good luck to everyone!!!

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      Posted: December 23, 2005, 4:14 am - IP Logged

      after the fiasco in kansas where the same pick 3 number comes up three days in a row.don't this set a good example that computerized draws don't work???

      LottoMike,

      Computerized drawing work but, they have flaws just like ball drawings have a bias to them.

      I voted not sure becuase I have made a lot of money off the PA Mid-Day in the last 3 months.


      It's computerized and I don't have a problem with it....as long as I'm winning!!

      I'm wondering something. 3 nights same #'s. hmm I thought they rotate machines.

      PP

      they do rotate machines in ball drawings.but since kansas is a computerized state they have an RNG that spits out a number each night.obviously it was frozen or something because as you seen it kept giving out the same number.on ball drawings things are a little more fair because the balls are drawn and can be seen.with computers you never know if its being manipulated or what........

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        Posted: December 23, 2005, 4:43 am - IP Logged

        I did some reading on the Kansas lottery web page and it says this under the FAQ's:

        The drawings for Super Kansas Cash, Pick 3 and Keno are done at a secured location in Topeka, Kansas. A computerized random number generator is used for those drawings.

        Now I know california states that they have 3 computers and they are rotated daily

        They don't mention anything about more then one and a secured location....then there was this on there page:

        The Lottery is overseen by a five-person Lottery Commission that consults with and advises the Executive Director.

        Wel I would think after 2 nights they might think there was a problem but, on the other hand 5 people might not be enough I guess to see errors right in front of your face...

        Here's a question for everyone:

        Q: How many software people does it take to screw in a light bulb?

        None. That's a hardware problem. LOL

        PP

        Good luck to everyone!!!

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          Posted: December 23, 2005, 4:59 am - IP Logged

          Both ball machines and computers have biases. But ball machines have one thing that no computer has, transparency. You can't see what the computer's doing. Heck, you can't even see the person operating it. But ball machines are made from clear plexiglas, you can see the balls getting blown, or spun, or whatever.

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            Posted: December 23, 2005, 5:11 am - IP Logged

            i honestly feel like players are getting a fair deal with balls.with computers you never ever know if the numbers are being manipulated because you can't see what goes on behind the scenes.with ball drawings you have visual proof that things are fair........like jimmysand said SEE is the key word here.POWERPLAYER i do think some of the computer drawings might be fair but some are not.indiana is one place you never want to play,lol

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              Posted: December 23, 2005, 8:44 am - IP Logged

              i honestly feel like players are getting a fair deal with balls.with computers you never ever know if the numbers are being manipulated because you can't see what goes on behind the scenes.with ball drawings you have visual proof that things are fair........like jimmysand said SEE is the key word here.POWERPLAYER i do think some of the computer drawings might be fair but some are not.indiana is one place you never want to play,lol

              I Agree!  There's too much suspicion with RGN.......

               

                                             

                            

               

               

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                Posted: December 23, 2005, 8:52 am - IP Logged

                Both ball machines and computers have biases. But ball machines have one thing that no computer has, transparency. You can't see what the computer's doing. Heck, you can't even see the person operating it. But ball machines are made from clear plexiglas, you can see the balls getting blown, or spun, or whatever.

                That's the whole thing in a nutshell.  Nicely put.

                 

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                  Posted: December 23, 2005, 9:42 am - IP Logged

                  I voted yes on this one.

                  Computers were meant to simulate real world conditions NOT replace them.

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                  Any gain or loss is your responsibility.
                  Use at your own risk.

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                    Posted: December 23, 2005, 12:20 pm - IP Logged

                    Yes NodAnd plus it's exciting watching the drawings.  It's slow enough to press each digit as it's being drawn.  I remember when bowling went to computerized score keeping.  It took something away from the game. 

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                      Posted: December 23, 2005, 3:42 pm - IP Logged

                      I agree with my vote. Lets eliminate all computerized drawings.

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                        Posted: December 24, 2005, 1:43 am - IP Logged

                        I agree with my vote. Lets eliminate all computerized drawings.

                        i usually agree with my votes too........

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                          Posted: December 25, 2005, 5:32 pm - IP Logged

                           

                          I voted "yes...ban all computerized draws."  I will not play any lottery game that has computerized draws.  Indiana is losing a bundle of money from me this year.  I'm on holiday right now in Indiana and am only playing a little Power Ball.  I'll save my money for the states that have ball drawn pick 5 games.

                           

                           

                           

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                            Posted: December 25, 2005, 6:21 pm - IP Logged

                            I voted 'Not sure'.  Mainly because I feel so adamant about the issue.

                            I think anyone who believes any kind of game at all can't be rigged is deluding himself.  Can be and will be.

                            I play blackjack on a shoe game.  Stupid, seems to me, but I do it, even though I have no reason to believe it's not rigged occasionally, and that it probably is.  I sometimes play blackjack on a table with supposedly six decks inside an auto shuffler, and I have every reason to suspect it's a dishonest game.

                            So now there's reason to believe a computerized numbers game is easy to rig.  Probably it is.

                            Every casino in the US has slot machines that are computerized.  Is there somewhere someone out there in the world who believes they don't get rigged?  Does someone want to try to find a method that can't be, or who just wants to shut down the casinos because the machines can be rigged?

                            But the fact computerized machines, slots, autoshufflers are easy to rig doesn't take anything away from the overall situation  in my view.  It just means you have to pay attention to make it pay off.  It's obviously going to pay off for someone if it's rigged and that someone should have to share it with anyone else who's observant enough to catch the drift.

                            There's enough stuff banned already in this life.  So much we can't even keep track of it.  If computerized draws are banned maybe it will change things, but it seems to me it's a drop in the bucket.  And the stink it would take to outlaw them would draw a lot of unhealthy attention to the riggable side of lotteries. 

                            Seems to me it's a necessary evil, one not worth fretting about.  There's a whole range of banned things I'd like to see unbanned, rather than the other way around. 

                            Maybe a worthy approach would be to have a Constitutional Amendment requiring that every time a legislative body bans something it has to unban two other things.

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                              Posted: December 25, 2005, 7:30 pm - IP Logged

                              Both ball machines and computers have biases. But ball machines have one thing that no computer has, transparency. You can't see what the computer's doing. Heck, you can't even see the person operating it. But ball machines are made from clear plexiglas, you can see the balls getting blown, or spun, or whatever.

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