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lottaloot's avatar - AvatarZ56
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Posted: January 17, 2006, 1:58 am - IP Logged

Well, I've only been here for 2-3 weeks, have gotten about 3-4 hits in the little predictions I have posted so far.

 

IMHO, I think that this says it all.  Jester

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    I run 2 online business's already.  And that's not including what I do for a living,  :)  so, I know what the deal is when it comes to running a business.  As far as "what I can handle" is entailed, I am more than enough financially backed to handle everything from my end, without the "income" I would receive from subscirbers.  The more customers, is not the better I will be.  The fact that just a few customers are willing to subscribe, and that I want to limit my customers, is already obvious that, I know, that alot of "out of pocket" expenses are neccesary.  And, I am willing to do that.

     

    The economy plays only a role in retail business.  I do not have any interest in a retail business, nor, do I like retail business's.  And, like I said, if it's more complicated than I am willing to endure, then, the idea may be scrapped.  I may, however, give a relative the idea, let him/her go through the process, and just feed them the numbers so they can make a living selling the subscriptions to inviduals. :)  I would still be helping others nontheless.

     

    And, any service that can't consistently produce hits, I'm talking more than once every 1-2 weeks, then, they're useless.  Atleast to me.  :)  You can do just as good as them on your own.  :)  People today don't need "developing" services.  They need services that provide exactly what they are looking for.  Consistent hits.  Definate wins.  Consistent hits.  "Lucky wins" are too much "game".  "Beating the averages" are still too much "game".  "Increasing your chances of winning" are too much game.  I'm sure people are tired of all that.  People want this......Consistent hits, which represents a completely new business module, ....where you can thus change the outlook from "gambling" to "investing".    That's what people want.  :)

    Well lottaloot, if you notice....

     

    I've OBVIOUSLY been here shorter than 2-3 weeks (which was an obvious "rough" measurement of my time on this forum), and, I've OBVIOUSLY gotten more than 3-4 hits, I've gotten about 8-9.

     

    So, I don't know wether your reply was against me, or with me.  If it was "with me" then, boy am I sorry.  :)

     

    But, there's your reply.

     

    :)

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      The figures don't add up to me. Even at the max of 60 people you'd take in at $100 a month is only $6000 before all expenses... You claim to be making $4000 here and $2500 there by yourself, then why deal with the BS of catering to 60 people on a daily basis for a lousy 6 G's? "IF" everything you say is true, it would have to be for online betting only, due to the low in state box payouts (I have collected a $28 box win in CA), then it'd be hard to see any online site paying 60 people, 23 box wins to many times before they shut you and your members down. Remember, they don't like winners! They love losers!

      It's not what you got,  It's what you give,  It's not the life you choose, It's the life you live! Guitar

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        The figures don't add up to me. Even at the max of 60 people you'd take in at $100 a month is only $6000 before all expenses... You claim to be making $4000 here and $2500 there by yourself, then why deal with the BS of catering to 60 people on a daily basis for a lousy 6 G's? "IF" everything you say is true, it would have to be for online betting only, due to the low in state box payouts (I have collected a $28 box win in CA), then it'd be hard to see any online site paying 60 people, 23 box wins to many times before they shut you and your members down. Remember, they don't like winners! They love losers!

        I would deal with it, because it would be a way for me to share my winnings.  The "claims" you speak of, are not "claims", only time I've mentioned a $4400+ win there, and a $2500+ win there, is when I've actually won while posting here.  I'm not the type to talk about how many wins this, and how many wins that, unless you are seeing them.   And, you can win the same amount offline, just takes more money wagered.....

         

        But, like I said, the service would not be meant for me to make a living off of it....lol, I have MORE than enough money.  Believe me.  I make alot money, doing alot of things.  This service would not be one of them.  It would simply be a way, for me to share my winnings, in a professional way.  The money I would make from the subscription price, would more than likely go to charity anyway.  :)

         

        And, I also said, if it seems too "far fetched", I'd leave the idea alone, and just forget about it.  :)

         

        Geeze, what is the problem?  I'm asking for an opinion about something that I was thinking about, and I get very little opinion, and a bunch of negatevity, and skeptical bashing as if I'm asking you all to give me money now for my numbers,....while holding you by the neck.  lol

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          Posted: January 17, 2006, 5:13 am - IP Logged

          In my opinion, I would forget about it. 

          Plain & simple because most people are not going to play those amount of numbers for the amount of money that you play. 

           

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            Posted: January 17, 2006, 5:35 am - IP Logged

            Sure, seems best to keep the winnings within fam and friends.  :)

             

            Guess I'll just post my numbers here while I still can.  :)

              Konformthismfs's avatar - lisasham
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              Quit being so defensive! My post wasn't meant in a neg way. You ask for an opinion and i gave it. It's a fair warning to you if you stop and think about it! Just check the number of box winners in any state and see what they are. Then decide if there's room for over 1000 more box winners.  Calif yesterday had (Eve) 632 box winners for at $34 each...The midday draw has 516 box winners for $40 each. So how will the statement "you can win the same offline, just takes more money wagered..." work ?  I won't play Calif in state ,box play, for this reason. It simply doesn't pay! This is my opinion! It'll have to be done online and it wouldn't be worth it! Have you thought about selling the numbers based on a winning percentage vs membership fees? If you give out losers, they pay nothing, if you give out winners they pay you 10%,20%,,, if they don't pay they don't get anymore numbers... If your stuck on the membership route, then limit it to only a few per state.

               

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                Posted: January 17, 2006, 5:55 am - IP Logged

                I'm not defensive. lol.  If I ever did it, it would be a set membership fee.  :)

                 

                No, "numbers on good faith", that members will pay me a percentage.  You can win the same offline, it just takes more money.

                Why doesn't that statement work?  And, ofcourse there would be a membership limit.

                 

                But, like I said to lottaloot, it's just an idea.  Not something I am planning on pursuing anytime soon.  :)

                 

                Already have a headache thinking about it.  I have a hard enough time here just posting numbers.  lol.  But, it's all good. 

                 

                :)

                  Konformthismfs's avatar - lisasham
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                  Posted: January 17, 2006, 6:03 am - IP Logged

                  We Wish you continued sucess!

                  It's not what you got,  It's what you give,  It's not the life you choose, It's the life you live! Guitar

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                    Posted: January 17, 2006, 6:18 am - IP Logged

                    Thanks man! 

                    And, don't forget to make some money on my numbers! :)

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                      Posted: January 17, 2006, 8:33 am - IP Logged

                      Cashman

                      I went and checked some of your predictions. I'll assume everything you state is sincere and honest regarding your picks and intentions.

                      BUT you are saying to play 240 numbers per draw!
                      Pick3 - 40 numbers - 6way box = 240
                      That is almost ¼ of all the 1000 numbers!
                      And then to throw progression into the mix?
                      Just 1 loss in the middle of that progression would put you in the hole, big time. (Or some minor error, like giving out a wrong number to play).

                      I don't play online and for a payoff of $80, I'd go into shock playing that much. If you can get that down to 3 numbers per draw....then I'd say you had something.

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                        Posted: January 17, 2006, 8:41 am - IP Logged

                        I said play 40 numbers boxed.

                         

                        Box, is only $1.  $1x40 is $40.  :)

                        I don't know where you are getting your figures from, but, I've been doing for a while now, and I only play 40 numbers per draw.  And say to do so.    :)

                         

                        I presume you must be confused by your misunderstanding state lotterie's explaination of 3-way and 6-way box?

                         

                        They are simply showing you the different payouts you will get, depending on how many "unique" digits you have.

                         

                        Say, you play the number 122 box.  That is considered a "3-way box" simply because there are only 2 unique digits.  It costs $.50 or $1 to play. 

                        Now say you play 123, that is considered a "6 way box", simply because there are 3 unique digits.  It costs $.50 or $1 to play.

                        That does not mean, you are playing 6 numbers for $6.  lol, no, it simply means you are playing 123 in all 6 possible "arrangements".  :)

                         

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                          The term "box" is a simple way of calling your bet which represents 6 numbers.  Therefore, you are playing 240 numbers.

                          Yes, it equals $40!  Way too much.  If that was a horse at 1:1 odds, no problem.  But not a lottery.

                           

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                            Somehow I get the feeling (I could be wrong).....I just got this feeling that this guy is the same guy from New York awhile back.  Remember him?  Said he could pick New York pairs and made a living gambling? Then he started picking pair for other states.  He also said he was wealthy.

                            I kinda got a sniff for these things and I just got the gut after reading these posts that this is that same guy we exposed a few months ago.  Anyone feel the same way?

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                              The term "box" is a simple way of calling your bet which represents 6 numbers.  Therefore, you are playing 240 numbers.

                              Yes, it equals $40!  Way too much.  If that was a horse at 1:1 odds, no problem.  But not a lottery.

                               

                              If you can't afford $40, then, don't play my numbers.  :)

                              Or, play them for $.25 a peice online.

                               

                              I'm interested in what works.  If it takes 40 numbers to get a definate hit in a few days, then, you dam right I am going to play them untill I get a hit!  :)  And, with payouts like 150 to 1, spending $40, to win $150, doesn't seem like a bad idea....especially if you know you'll definately get a hit in a few draws.  I don't deal in chance bro.  :)

                               

                              And no where did I say anything about doubling up.  I did however, mention an intelligent management of money, where you increase a "unit"  or two, or three, depending on the situation, to guarantee a fixed payout per hit.  Which is why I'm able to bring in about $2400+ per pick 3 hit, and $5k+ per pick 4 hit, and I've already gotten tons of those! :)  8 of them which have been posted on this forum.  :)

                              And, to sandy k, whoever that guy was, he's not me.  You must be talking about genius*** however, who is a very close buddy of mine.  :)  And I share alot of my "secrets" with him, as he's a die hard lottery player, that looses alot, and, he loves going to the casino.  But, did that guy get as many hits as I did in 2-3 weeks?  I've been here in that short of time, with very little prediction posts, and got 8-9 hits.  With much more coming.  Don't like it,....then I'm gone.  :)  The sharing of my winnings is conditional.  Sorry, the way the world is today, you just have to be that way.  :)  lol. 

                              But, don't get me wrong....I'm not looking for any praise.....none at all...ofcourse a warm thank you, or , nice job here or there would not hurt, but, it's not neccessary,....all I'm looking for is to be LEFT ALONE!!!  It's not like I'm going to be here for another month or 2! 

                              Geeze!  lol