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# Determing doubles with 1up/1down

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Most know of the system which uses one up/one down from previous draws to come up with subsequent draws.  In addition to the one up/down a second set of numbers can be derived using the 023 formula (123 becomes 146) and so on.

By accident I came across a way to determine when doubles will occur.  This system was back tested in NJ only so I'm not sure if it works in other states.  Anyway,  what I did was I backtested by looking for doubles (any doubles at this point).  I worked back 2-3 draws to see if there were any triggers for the doubles.  What I came up with was a series of numbers that was present before doubles fell which utilizes the 023 system.  Here are the trigger numbers:

20X

31X

42X

53X

64X

75X

86X

97X

08X

19X

X09

X10

X21

X32

X43

X54

X65

X76

X87

X98

Now X is any number.  You'll see that in the case of the, i.e., 20X, by using the 023 rule, the number now becomes 22X.  From that point on all doubles are formed with the one up/one down system.  The same holds true with, i.e., X09.  By using the 023 rule, the number now becomes X22.  From that point on all doubles are formed with the one up/ one down system.  I should point out that the doubles that were generated from the one up/ one down were rarely the ones that fell, however, but if you like to play your favorite doubles, this may be a trigger to look for.

Hoep this makes sense.  It appears to work quite reproducibly in NJ.  There were only a few times where it didn't work.  Try it in your state to see if it works.  I'll be keeping track of NJ to see if it keeps up.  425 fell midday, so I'm hoping to see doubles over the next few draws (448, 559, 660, etc.)

I'd be interested to know if anyone has anything to add to refine this system.

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Hey calabs, do you see any double that will fall tonight in NJ... Let me know.. THanks

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Hey calabs, do you see any double that will fall tonight in NJ... Let me know.. THanks

kdarji - As I mentioned, the system doesn't predict (from what I have studied thus far) which number will fall, only that doubles are very likely to fall.  Still working out the specifics.  There must be something there I haven't found yet!!!!!!

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Most know of the system which uses one up/one down from previous draws to come up with subsequent draws.  In addition to the one up/down a second set of numbers can be derived using the 023 formula (123 becomes 146) and so on.

By accident I came across a way to determine when doubles will occur.  This system was back tested in NJ only so I'm not sure if it works in other states.  Anyway,  what I did was I backtested by looking for doubles (any doubles at this point).  I worked back 2-3 draws to see if there were any triggers for the doubles.  What I came up with was a series of numbers that was present before doubles fell which utilizes the 023 system.  Here are the trigger numbers:

20X

31X

42X

53X

64X

75X

86X

97X

08X

19X

X09

X10

X21

X32

X43

X54

X65

X76

X87

X98

Now X is any number.  You'll see that in the case of the, i.e., 20X, by using the 023 rule, the number now becomes 22X.  From that point on all doubles are formed with the one up/one down system.  The same holds true with, i.e., X09.  By using the 023 rule, the number now becomes X22.  From that point on all doubles are formed with the one up/ one down system.  I should point out that the doubles that were generated from the one up/ one down were rarely the ones that fell, however, but if you like to play your favorite doubles, this may be a trigger to look for.

Hoep this makes sense.  It appears to work quite reproducibly in NJ.  There were only a few times where it didn't work.  Try it in your state to see if it works.  I'll be keeping track of NJ to see if it keeps up.  425 fell midday, so I'm hoping to see doubles over the next few draws (448, 559, 660, etc.)

I'd be interested to know if anyone has anything to add to refine this system.

I am trying to comprehend what you are doing here.. how did you get the  20X using 023 to get the  22X

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Tntea - Using the 023 format (i.e. take the number and leave the first digit alone, add two to the second digit, and add 3 to the third digit).  So for example 20X (lets say the number is 206) then the new number would be 229.  Make sense?

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 Posted: February 7, 2006, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

Thanks..  229 would be double to play after a 20 pair hitting .. That is how I do the double warnings..

If the double comes without warning.. I play the digits with a zero..

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 Posted: February 7, 2006, 8:26 pm - IP Logged
 Tue, Feb 7, 2006 Mon, Feb 6, 2006 9-0-5 3-1-1 5-0-4-3 9-8-1-1 1-0-5 0-1-2 7-1-9-4 3-3-1-4

Using OH here as an example..  012 fell last night..  So one would play 11x or 22x... since 105 fell yesterday midday.. I went with the 11x

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well, it seemed to have followed suit tonight

New Jersey Midday:  425  (425 +029 rule = 445).

New Jersey Evening:  331

So again doubles fell after one of the triggers, in this case 42X.  Too bad it wasn't one of the doubles I played tonight!!!!!

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well, it seemed to have followed suit tonight

New Jersey Midday:  425  (425 +029 rule = 445).

New Jersey Evening:  331

So again doubles fell after one of the triggers, in this case 42X.  Too bad it wasn't one of the doubles I played tonight!!!!!

Sorry for any confusion on my last post.  It should have read;

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New Jersey Midday:  425  (425 +023 rule = 448).

New Jersey Evening:  331

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I think I need a new keyboard!!!!!

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 Posted: February 11, 2006, 1:55 pm - IP Logged

well, it happened again.

Feb 10, midday:  976  (999 using the 023 rule)

Feb 11, midday:  889!  (Skip = 1)

Missed this one because the machines were down when I went to get tix.  Would have played (one of Lavernes GEMS) straight.  Keep looking for the double triggers!  They will produce doubles more times than not!

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In the quest to win above \$150.00, I have found that all the systems out there do not produce big winners.  The big jackpot winners just pick their own numbers, don't they?

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Hello I'm Ladydee61 I will try that method with 023 .I'm in new jersey and i am trying to hit the pick3.No luck as yet but i will try your method i understand it.Cause i was doing 123 and that works sometimes.It's late or early sunday morning .Feb.12.I got to close my eyes now,but the number today sat.day-was889 and then tonite's number was 910.I kinda see what you are doing.So keep me posted cause this system works but where would get the 9 from i see the second 8 would be 0 and the 9 would be 1 .I think i see your method,so i will keep u inform on how I'm doing cause i see your method clearly.If you would like to send me a note "by all means feel free".Got to get some shut eye now.Take care and I wish much luck to you and I.Ladydee61@lotterypost.com

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Hello I'm Ladydee61 I will try that method with 023 .I'm in new jersey and i am trying to hit the pick3.No luck as yet but i will try your method i understand it.Cause i was doing 123 and that works sometimes.It's late or early sunday morning .Feb.12.I got to close my eyes now,but the number today sat.day-was889 and then tonite's number was 910.I kinda see what you are doing.So keep me posted cause this system works but where would get the 9 from i see the second 8 would be 0 and the 9 would be 1 .I think i see your method,so i will keep u inform on how I'm doing cause i see your method clearly.If you would like to send me a note "by all means feel free".Got to get some shut eye now.Take care and I wish much luck to you and I.Ladydee61@lotterypost.com

Hi Ladydee - Yes, it worked again today!  Last night the draw was 910.  this too is a trigger, so add the 023 and you get 933.  This tells you that a double will fall within a couple of draws.  As it turns out, this midday, 055 fell.  Still trying to figure out which double is likely to fall.  But using others' methods and grids, there are likely doubles to pick from these grids.  Did it with 889 yesterday midday, but was not able to play because the machines were down when I went to buy tix!!!!!!!!

Good luck!

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Once again the triggers brought out doubles tonight in NJ.  The green ball the other evening was a doubles trigger.  three skips later (tonight) adn 757 fell in NJ.  Now this double also is a doubles trigger using the 023 rule (757 + 023 = 770).  Look for doubles within the next few draws.  this system needs some refining, perhaps with the aid of filters.  If anyone has a suggestion as to how to narrow down WHICH double will fall, I'm all ears.

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NJ Sun MID: 098 (098 + 023 = 011)

NJ Sun EVE:  033

Doubles trigger shows a double in the next draw.  I have also noticed that quite often, the double will contain one number from the double trigger (not unusual to repeat on dig from previous draw).  So if one were to play the doubles from 098, you would have:

011, 022, 033, 044, 055, 066, 077, 088, 099

900, 911, 922, 933, 944, 955, 966, 977, 988

800, 811, 822, 833, 844, 855, 866, 877, 899

Back testing for one year showed that mirrors do not occur by doubling up on the trigger numbers (e.g. 001, 990, 880, etc.).

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