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four4me's avatar - gate1
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I love keno but it it can be rather expensive here in Mass. as we play every 4 minutes from early morning to late night. I might try using your set of missing numbers and see how it plays out for a few games here. Thanks

Retxx did you read about the procedure for the keno drawings in Mass.

 Pay special attention to this:

More specifically: There are two computer systems involved in a Keno drawing. The primary computer takes all bets. Attached to this main computer is a random number generator that is constantly shuffling 80 numbers around. Once the betting is closed, the primary computer asks the random number generator for 20 numbers. At that moment, the primary computer knows the 20 winning numbers and graphically displays them on the Keno monitors at agent locations. The random number generator is independent of the primary computer and has no way of determining which bets the primary computer accepts. The sole purpose of this generator is to continuously shuffle numbers and provide the primary computer with a set of winning numbers when asked.

I highlighted this line because i believe that this statement might not be exactly correct. i think both computers work together and that they pay out a percentage of the take in at least that's the way it was explained to me by someone whom works for a lottery compamy. Here in Maryland. So no matter what numbers you pick your only going to get paid if they took in enough to satisfy a payout. Or a partial payout. Since hundred or thousands of people are playing at any one given time they can pay out a few bucks here and there to keep everybody going back for more. i was told that when you up the bet by 1-2-3-4-5 dollars that your odds of winning increase. But i rarely go more than 2 bucks a draw unless i get seed money to play with.

 

 http://www.masslottery.com/games/keno.html

 

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     It's 3 am Monday morning, Mountain Time Zone.  I'm assuming these are Sunday picks. 

    Seems to me tntea is managing to get in ahead of the odds a bit, considering it's the second day in a row.

     

     

    tntea Atlantic Canada Keno Atlantic Match 6 02-11-15-16-19-33-36-38-66-69 02-09-12-14-19-20-28-29-32-33-36-40-46-47-49-58-61-63-66-69 $5
    tntea Atlantic Canada Keno Atlantic Match 5 12-22-23-25-29-36-63-65-66-67 02-09-12-14-19-20-28-29-32-33-36-40-46-47-49-58-61-63-66-69 $2
    tntea Atlantic Canada Keno Atlantic Match 5 12-15-17-18-23-25-36-63-66-69 02-09-12-14-19-20-28-29-32-33-36-40-46-47-49-58-61-63-66-69 $2
    tntea Atlantic Canada Keno Atlantic Match 5 12-22-23-25-29-36-63-65-66-67 02-09-12-14-19-20-28-29-32-33-36-40-46-47-49-58-61-63-66-69 $2
    tntea Atlantic Canada Keno Atlantic Match 5 02-15-17-18-23-25-36-63-66-69 02-09-12-14-19-20-28-29-32-33-36-40-46-47-49-58-61-63-66-69 $2
    tntea Atlantic Canada Keno Atlantic Match 5 01-09-14-15-17-19-36-50-69-70 02-09-12-14-19-20-28-29-32-33-36-40-46-47-49-58-61-63-66-69 $2
    tntea Atlantic Canada Keno Atlantic Match 5 08-12-15-17-23-25-36-63-66-69 02-09-12-14-19-20-28-29-32-33-36-40-46-47-49-58-61-63-66-69 $2

    tntea Michigan Keno Match 5 01-05-08-09-13-25-26-63-74-77 08-09-12-13-18-19-22-26-32-35-39-43-45-46-49-50-52-56-66-68-71-74 $2
    tntea Michigan Keno Match 5 05-08-09-13-25-26-63-74-75-77 08-09-12-13-18-19-22-26-32-35-39-43-45-46-49-50-52-56-66-68-71-74 $2
    tntea Michigan Keno Match 6 01-03-08-09-18-19-22-23-32-80 08-09-12-13-18-19-22-26-32-35-39-43-45-46-49-50-52-56-66-68-71-74 $5

    tntea New York Pick 10 Match 0 13-15-18-30-31-32-45-55-58-70 12-19-22-29-33-35-39-42-49-50-53-57-61-63-67-68-72-73-78-79 $2
    tntea New York Pick 10 Match 0 03-07-11-14-15-16-25-52-54-65 12-19-22-29-33-35-39-42-49-50-53-57-61-63-67-68-72-73-78-79 $2
    tntea New York Pick 10 Match 5 12-22-23-25-29-36-63-65-66-67 12-19-22-29-33-35-39-42-49-50-53-57-61-63-67-68-72-73-78-79 $2
     
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 09-13-14-25-30-33-35-39-47-59 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 5 09-12-14-25-30-33-40-47-58-59 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $2
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 5 09-10-12-14-25-33-35-47-48-58 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $2
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 7 04-14-15-16-17-18-44-47-68-70 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $50
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 5 10-15-20-21-25-30-34-35-44-47 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $2
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 13-14-15-18-31-44-51-54-61-70 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-06-14-16-18-21-25-50-65-70 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-06-14-15-19-20-21-25-65-70 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-14-15-19-21-25-26-31-65-70 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-14-15-19-21-25-26-33-65-70 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 5 02-14-15-18-25-26-33-50-51-55 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $2
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-06-14-16-18-25-33-50-51-55 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 7 06-12-14-15-16-17-25-50-51-55 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $50
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-13-14-15-16-17-25-50-51-55 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 5 02-13-14-15-16-17-22-25-26-50 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $2
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-13-14-15-16-17-22-25-28-50 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-13-14-15-16-17-23-25-28-50 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Quebec Banco Match 6 02-13-14-15-16-17-24-25-28-50 03-04-06-14-15-16-17-21-25-28-31-33-35-43-47-51-59-61-63-70 $5
    tntea Washington Keno Match 0 06-09-10-18-19-27-28-34-48-49 04-05-11-20-22-24-29-30-32-39-40-43-46-47-54-62-66-67-68-71 $2
    tntea Washington Keno Match 5 05-13-43-45-49-54-61-67-68-70 04-05-11-20-22-24-29-30-32-39-40-43-46-47-54-62-66-67-68-71 $2
    tntea Washington Keno Match 0 01-06-09-18-19-27-28-34-48-49 04-05-11-20-22-24-29-30-32-39-40-43-46-47-54-62-66-67-68-71 $2

    Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

    It's about number behavior.

    Egos don't count.

     

    Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

     

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      Rip yea in quebec because more was won than lost.

       Here is a link to the predictions. It goes to show that these games aren't easy to win. even 10 people posting all together different picks for these drawings might not see a jackpot win. Unless of course if they posted them evey day until they did win. In either event i don't know who could afford to do it for real.

      http://www.lotterypost.com/predictions-member.asp?id=6600&d=4/23/2006

       

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        Larry:

        This discussion's actually just an illustration of the fundamental difference in the ways you and I view random number behavior, which probably belongs on some separate thread if it belongs anywhere on LP.

        The dividing line between the way you (and everyone else on the planet) sees it, and the way I see it, is that I firmly believe it's possible to predict with precision all the numbers that will hit, say, on Atlantic Canada Keno tomorrow.  Or any other lottery, for that matter.

        For that reason I'm prone to watch for any evidence someone might have taken a step in that direction.  When I see events, such as tntea's success a couple of days ago, which defy the odds, my antennae begin to wiggle and I wait for developments to confirm, or refute what I believe might have happened.

        It ain't a big deal.  You have all-but-one of the human race agreeing with you, and I'm entirely willing to wait for events to tell me whether I'm right, or wrong.

        Jack

         

        Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

        It's about number behavior.

        Egos don't count.

         

        Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

         

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          four4forme; Interesting analysis on Mass. keno. Using that theory can you come up with other than quick pick plays? Any help appreciated.

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            Thanks for the compliment, Jack.....but so far I've been doing pretty crappy at Keno. Wasn't going to continue the experiment but will try to give it a week. My first impression is that it's a tough game. I'm appreciating you guys that are hitting it.

            Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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              Larry:

              This discussion's actually just an illustration of the fundamental difference in the ways you and I view random number behavior, which probably belongs on some separate thread if it belongs anywhere on LP.

              The dividing line between the way you (and everyone else on the planet) sees it, and the way I see it, is that I firmly believe it's possible to predict with precision all the numbers that will hit, say, on Atlantic Canada Keno tomorrow.  Or any other lottery, for that matter.

              For that reason I'm prone to watch for any evidence someone might have taken a step in that direction.  When I see events, such as tntea's success a couple of days ago, which defy the odds, my antennae begin to wiggle and I wait for developments to confirm, or refute what I believe might have happened.

              It ain't a big deal.  You have all-but-one of the human race agreeing with you, and I'm entirely willing to wait for events to tell me whether I'm right, or wrong.

              Jack

               

              Rip Atlantic Canada's drawing is a ball drawing and you might have a good chance at predicting the numbers for that game.

              However many keno drawing are done with computers rng. and those rng's are calculating all the bets on each individual drawing. The computers are working in tandem selecting and de selecting numbers. It works almost like a one arm bandit. when the random number generator hit it's cycle for a payout then it pays out. In millisecond's it calculates how much it took in and decides what it's going to pay out.

              You don't have to agree with me about this next time your in Vegas have someone that runs the keno drawings explain how the system works. Now if you could figure out how the chips in the rng function and could somehow come up with a set of numbers that will defeat the rng then you'd be a winner.

              We have keno in Maryland, every several minutes about 18 hrs a day. In all the time we've had it only 3 people have hit all 10 numbers for the jackpot. Two of those times they took in twice what they paid out for those particular days. Get my drift. They paid out because the rng's said pay out. And practically every number was bet in the spread of numbers necessitating a pay out. The lottery reported that over a million people played the keno drawings that day.

              last time i checked someone said the payout for keno draws was like 80% take in and 20% payout. And thy can adjust the take in and payout to suite them. yea your numbers might win if they want them too.

               

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                Rick:

                The best I've managed on it, thus far, is seven out of ten on a draw of 20.  I don't consider that 'hitting' it.  To be honest, I don't even consider 10 out of 10 hitting it, though it's a big step in the right direction.

                20 out of a 20 draw's hitting it, seems to me.  Anything less and it still ain't figured out.

                But keno appears to me to be the best prospect for un-puzzling because there are so many more numbers to work with.

                I consider my what I've said concerning you to be more of an acknowledgement than a compliment.  What you're doing every day over on pick 5s and pick 6s has me groping for better footing on a lot of things.  So, if she continues to hit so well on keno, does tntea.

                Accident, luck and coincidence happen often enough to cause us to tip our hats to them, but when they happen every day I'm prone to allow for other possibilities to explain things.  If the explanation turns out to be what I think it might be I'm just going to have to give one, or both of you a measure of wonderment and awe that comes rare for me.

                Jack

                Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                It's about number behavior.

                Egos don't count.

                 

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                  Larry:

                  This discussion's actually just an illustration of the fundamental difference in the ways you and I view random number behavior, which probably belongs on some separate thread if it belongs anywhere on LP.

                  The dividing line between the way you (and everyone else on the planet) sees it, and the way I see it, is that I firmly believe it's possible to predict with precision all the numbers that will hit, say, on Atlantic Canada Keno tomorrow.  Or any other lottery, for that matter.

                  For that reason I'm prone to watch for any evidence someone might have taken a step in that direction.  When I see events, such as tntea's success a couple of days ago, which defy the odds, my antennae begin to wiggle and I wait for developments to confirm, or refute what I believe might have happened.

                  It ain't a big deal.  You have all-but-one of the human race agreeing with you, and I'm entirely willing to wait for events to tell me whether I'm right, or wrong.

                  Jack

                   

                  Rip Atlantic Canada's drawing is a ball drawing and you might have a good chance at predicting the numbers for that game.

                  However many keno drawing are done with computers rng. and those rng's are calculating all the bets on each individual drawing. The computers are working in tandem selecting and de selecting numbers. It works almost like a one arm bandit. when the random number generator hit it's cycle for a payout then it pays out. In millisecond's it calculates how much it took in and decides what it's going to pay out.

                  You don't have to agree with me about this next time your in Vegas have someone that runs the keno drawings explain how the system works. Now if you could figure out how the chips in the rng function and could somehow come up with a set of numbers that will defeat the rng then you'd be a winner.

                  We have keno in Maryland, every several minutes about 18 hrs a day. In all the time we've had it only 3 people have hit all 10 numbers for the jackpot. Two of those times they took in twice what they paid out for those particular days. Get my drift. They paid out because the rng's said pay out. And practically every number was bet in the spread of numbers necessitating a pay out. The lottery reported that over a million people played the keno drawings that day.

                  last time i checked someone said the payout for keno draws was like 80% take in and 20% payout. And thy can adjust the take in and payout to suite them. yea your numbers might win if they want them too.

                   

                  Larry:

                  Likely you're right.  If you are, you'll be right whether I agree or not.  No point in either of us being too concerned about it.

                  Jack

                  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                  It's about number behavior.

                  Egos don't count.

                   

                  Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                   

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                    Jack, you hit the nail right on the head with "luck and coincidence". Hitting any game in the lottery is 99% luck and coincidence, especially with the tougher jackpot odds. All we can do to help is pick the right numbers and let "L. & C." do the rest.

                    I only got into the bigger games to see what difference there might be in using random picks from 60% of the number pool as opposed to a wheeling approach. It's still an experiment in progress but I'm not seeing too much of a difference.

                    Good luck today!

                    Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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                      Rip I tried an experiment with keno a while back figuring like you there must be a way to open this nut and get the prize.

                      I made 50 ten spot keno tickets with every conceivable number pattern I liked after having observed the drawing taking place for a couple hrs. every one of those tickets were well thought out each ticket was hopefully bound to produce some kind of win. Since you get paid for matching no numbers and paid for having 5 or more numbers I thought what the heck go for it. I had the guy shove the tickets into the machine. then sat back and watched the drawing take place. First time I won 15 bucks. then we did it two more times. Second draw I won 10 bucks. 3rd time I won 30 bucks. well you can see I lost 95 bucks for that attempt. Didn't play the next draw yep you guessed it I would have won 300 on one of those 50 tickets. But wait would I have if I had played the 4th time or would the rng select my numbers for a win or discard my selections. we'll never know.

                      Later that day I went on line and looked up those drawings and compared my selections with the numbers they drew. In almost every instance my picks were right along side their picks, in front of, on top of, or diagonally from theirs. This experiment pretty much summed up what I said in the previous post. Their gain my loss. If I had won more than I bet I would have continued to shove those tickets into the machine until I broke even or plucked the winner.

                      I've done this experiment a couple more times since then and the experiment failed to produce a top tier prize.

                         

                       

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                        Larry:

                        I'm a man who's spent a third of my life looking for a lost gold mine, spending a small fortune, several women, and some good vehicles to do it. 

                        I haven't found it (yet), but I haven't regretted trying, either.  It was a good ride and still is.

                        I'm a man who ruined himself financially betting Y2K.  I don't regret that, either.  It was a good ride.

                        And I'm a man who's spent a shocking amount of energy and time trying to figure out the numbers.  I'll never regret that, either.

                        I agree with Kipling's line in "If":  "If you can meet with triumph, or disaster, and treat those two imposters just the same". 

                        I haven't encountered any disasters yet.

                        If I do, I'll try my best to treat them exactly the same way I treat the triumph of searching for a gold mine I never found.

                        Or the triumph of betting my future financial ease on a collapse of civilization that didn't happen.

                        Or the triumph of devoting a couple of years of focus to learning something that can't be learned about random number behavior.

                        I don't expect other people to approach life the way I do.  If I did, that would be an unmitigated disaster.  I don't want to have to stretch my abilities to the point of having to try to treat it as a triumph.

                        Jack

                         

                         

                        Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                        It's about number behavior.

                        Egos don't count.

                         

                        Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                         

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                          I believe what your saying, and I agree that the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is obtainable to many of us. It's taking those paths to get their that is the treat.

                          When I was younger I always said I wished I was a millionaire a friend of mine kept saying find something that costs a buck, that everyone would want to have and in no time a million people would buy it.

                          I know now why the lottery took that same approach good luck in your searches.

                          Theres still gold in them thar hills i hope you wander upon it.

                           

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                            four4forme; Interesting analysis on Mass. keno. Using that theory can you come up with other than quick pick plays? Any help appreciated.

                            retex you have a searchable data base on your states website they have some picks registered for today. I would look at those picks and pull out all the numbers they didn't select. And pull out all the numbers that came out the most. mix and match em and go for a few draws to see what happens. If they work for you great if not adjust the numbers to reflect what they are drawing the most.

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                              Rick and Larry:

                              Amazing luck that tntea's having. 

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                              tnteaWest VirginiaCash 254 of 610-14-15-16-22-2502-03-10-15-16-25$100
                              tnteaWest VirginiaCash 254 of 610-14-15-16-23-2502-03-10-15-16-25$100
                              tnteaWest VirginiaCash 254 of 610-12-14-15-16-2502-03-10-15-16-25$100
                              tnteaWest VirginiaCash 254 of 610-14-15-16-24-2502-03-10-15-16-25$100
                              tnteaWest VirginiaCash 253 of 602-11-14-15-16-1902-03-10-15-16-25$5
                              tnteaWest VirginiaCash 253 of 602-11-14-15-16-1902-03-10-15-16-25$5
                              tnteaWest VirginiaCash 254 of 601-02-10-15-16-1902-03-10-15-16-25$100

                              Must have been a full wheel on, say eight numbers?

                              Whew.  That's lady's sure lucky.  Makes me glad there's not something she might know about numbers that the rest of us don't.    10 out of 10 on a Keno draw, 5 out of 6 five times, one draw, one wheel.

                              That lady'd be rolling boxcars twenty times in a row in a casino.

                              I'm betting old lady luck is gonna stay on the same train and she keeps rolling boxcars because she's so lucky.

                              Jack

                               

                               

                               

                              Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                              It's about number behavior.

                              Egos don't count.

                               

                              Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser