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# Pcnut gave me a doubles Idea

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 7:46 pm - IP Logged

Thanks Pac. It worked in Maryland mid-day 188. Last evenings number was 081.

Tried it and caught it for \$80.00.  Had a \$66.50 profit.

litebets

I use the combos with 0 in it as a double warning.. If I dont play all possible 88 11.. I at least put the two together and play 188 118...

Caught a box too.. \$75..  worth 50cent after the warning..  sometimes it is a few days later

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 7:48 pm - IP Logged

A narrow down would be seeing the doubles that show up in the OLD string after a draw..

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 7:56 pm - IP Logged

Hey Pac,

Nice finding you got there!

I just did a backtest on Florida as well, a few differences;

Out of the 365 days, 106 were days with a double being drawn the day before, thus lowering the cost...

Total cost: 106 x 54 + 259 x 81 = 5724 + 20979 = 26703

I only found a total of 36 winning days though...

Total winnings: 36 x 900 = 32400

Profit: 32400 - 26703 = 5697

Weekly profit: 5697 / 52 = 109.56

Backtesting entire history (1573 draws) produced the following result:

Total cost: 1144 x 81 + 429 x 54 = 115830

Total winnings: 140 x 900 = 126000

Profit: 126000 - 115830 = 10170

Weekly profit: 10170 / (1573 / 7) = 45.26

I ran these through an Excel sheet, so the numbers should be correct, how did you get yours?

I'll try to test some more states tonight...

Good luck with your system, and thanks for sharing!

When you back tested the entire history, did you also take in account the reduction cost in the doubles?

I don't even know how to use Exxxon, I mean Excel...

I did it manually, starting a year back and working my way to the present. It didn't take as long as I thought it would. But I seriously have to learn all that excel stuff and the sorts. It would make life alot easier..LOL

Thanx.

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:00 pm - IP Logged

WOW pacattack05, I guess I got those doubles wheels grinding. So far, what I have put into motion is having a bad start, but the night is not over yet. I do like your concept and I'm going to look into it a little further. I will be following this thread as you go along and I may throw a bone in there now and then.

Good luck

pcnut

I'm embarrased for not thanking you for this. If it wasn't for your post, I would not even be thinking about the doubles.

Still needs some tweaking, but not much.

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:03 pm - IP Logged

A narrow down would be seeing the doubles that show up in the OLD string after a draw..

At what percent is that selection process successful?

Sounds like if people put their heads together here, we can have many profitable days to come....

Thanx tntea....

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:04 pm - IP Logged

Hey Pac,

Nice finding you got there!

I just did a backtest on Florida as well, a few differences;

Out of the 365 days, 106 were days with a double being drawn the day before, thus lowering the cost...

Total cost: 106 x 54 + 259 x 81 = 5724 + 20979 = 26703

I only found a total of 36 winning days though...

Total winnings: 36 x 900 = 32400

Profit: 32400 - 26703 = 5697

Weekly profit: 5697 / 52 = 109.56

Backtesting entire history (1573 draws) produced the following result:

Total cost: 1144 x 81 + 429 x 54 = 115830

Total winnings: 140 x 900 = 126000

Profit: 126000 - 115830 = 10170

Weekly profit: 10170 / (1573 / 7) = 45.26

I ran these through an Excel sheet, so the numbers should be correct, how did you get yours?

I'll try to test some more states tonight...

Good luck with your system, and thanks for sharing!

When you back tested the entire history, did you also take in account the reduction cost in the doubles?

I don't even know how to use Exxxon, I mean Excel...

I did it manually, starting a year back and working my way to the present. It didn't ake as long as I thought it would. But I seriously have to learn all that excel stuff and the sorts. It would make life alot easier..LOL

Thanx.

Yup...

Non mihi, non tibi, sed nobis

- Sodalis de Apollon

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:12 pm - IP Logged

A narrow down would be seeing the doubles that show up in the OLD string after a draw..

At what percent is that selection process successful?

Sounds like if people put their heads together here, we can have many profitable days to come....

Thanx tntea....

let's try it out..

Will start a test post

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:13 pm - IP Logged

Hey Pac,

Nice finding you got there!

I just did a backtest on Florida as well, a few differences;

Out of the 365 days, 106 were days with a double being drawn the day before, thus lowering the cost...

Total cost: 106 x 54 + 259 x 81 = 5724 + 20979 = 26703

I only found a total of 36 winning days though...

Total winnings: 36 x 900 = 32400

Profit: 32400 - 26703 = 5697

Weekly profit: 5697 / 52 = 109.56

Backtesting entire history (1573 draws) produced the following result:

Total cost: 1144 x 81 + 429 x 54 = 115830

Total winnings: 140 x 900 = 126000

Profit: 126000 - 115830 = 10170

Weekly profit: 10170 / (1573 / 7) = 45.26

I ran these through an Excel sheet, so the numbers should be correct, how did you get yours?

I'll try to test some more states tonight...

Good luck with your system, and thanks for sharing!

When you back tested the entire history, did you also take in account the reduction cost in the doubles?

I don't even know how to use Exxxon, I mean Excel...

I did it manually, starting a year back and working my way to the present. It didn't ake as long as I thought it would. But I seriously have to learn all that excel stuff and the sorts. It would make life alot easier..LOL

Thanx.

Yup...

Thanx, I just saw it in your workout, sorry. I've had 4 Heinekens now.....LOL

It's still a positive cash flow. And that's what really counts anyway, right?

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

A narrow down would be seeing the doubles that show up in the OLD string after a draw..

At what percent is that selection process successful?

Sounds like if people put their heads together here, we can have many profitable days to come....

Thanx tntea....

let's try it out..

Will start a test post

I would like to lessen the days being played with your selection process and test it to see if it is profitable. The scientific method is the only way to determine what works and what doesen't. I need all the help I can get....LOL

We need a think tank on this one....

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

Pac - It would have hit 6 times in the last 90 games in Ohio

~Probability=Odds in Motion~

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:30 pm - IP Logged

The chance for the event to occur is 8.1% (from a no-match to a double) or 5.4% for a double to a double.

~Probability=Odds in Motion~

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:35 pm - IP Logged

Pac - It would have hit 6 times in the last 90 games in Ohio

That is exactly the reason why I wanted to do a long term study.

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 8:39 pm - IP Logged

Oh well, I guess I'll ring my hands and throw in the towel.....NOT...LOL

This one might be a bust, but I can gaurantee that I will never stop learning from the lessons I impose on myself.

Failure is not an option.

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

Florida is probably clustering with hits right now (as all rondom things tend to cluster off and on) ...it will most likely stretch back out to an unprofitable system if you played it every draw.  Most likely it will only hit an overall percent of the time according to its probability percentage.  Lol I always run into things like that - things that work great for a short time then stop.

~Probability=Odds in Motion~

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 Posted: April 24, 2006, 9:21 pm - IP Logged

Florida is probably clustering with hits right now (as all rondom things tend to cluster off and on) ...it will most likely stretch back out to an unprofitable system if you played it every draw.  Most likely it will only hit an overall percent of the time according to its probability percentage.  Lol I always run into things like that - things that work great for a short time then stop.

I know exactly what you mean. It's just a short term trend. And that ruins my day....LOL

But the numbers have been in the green and not in the red yet.

So, there is some hope based on the positive cash flow here. Don't ya think?

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