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Posted: June 29, 2006, 7:00 am - IP Logged

Those of you who don't visit the Lottery Systems Forum might have missed this.

PadawanLotto is testing a system on the LP Predictions page.  He's a user of the system who agreed to test it here. 

PadawanLotto is not an employee of Expert Lotto.

Expert Lotto (link) is one of the several threads where all this has been discussed.

But what you might find interesting is how the test is going:

 

Top 10 Predictors for All States, All Game Types

 

Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Prize Ratio)

   Member  Prize Ratio  Wagers  Winnings 
1.rng7771440.36%$1,090$15,700
2.PadawanLotto655.78%$1,721$11,286
3.nanmaxsplace197.94%$2,526$5,000
4.joemillionaire187.42%$811$1,520
5.NumbersDaily187.05%$23,480$43,920
6.nassaugames139.60%$351$490
7.lucky743126.12%$32,644$41,172
8.shwayba120.48%$166$200
9.undress113.81%$4,516$5,140
10.Msbgentle113.53%$1,515$1,720

 

 

Highest Lifetime Prize Ratio

 

   Member  Prize Ratio  Wagers  Winnings 
1.PadawanLotto435.58%$2,619$11,408
2.VALJEAN397.98%$2,181$8,680
3.SuperWheeler196.54%$33,794$66,420
4.joemillionaire187.42%$811$1,520
5.Jake138.92%$4,103$5,700
6.rng777131.57%$15,010$19,750
7.The Deer Hunter117.56%$2,943$3,460
8.Rick G113.43%$38,432$43,596
9.daydreamer76111.86%$590$660
10.ayenowitall102.00%$2,246$2,291

 

 

 

Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Hit Ratio)

 

   Member  Hit Ratio  Picks  Hits 
1.Rick G5.56%1,47482
2.PadawanLotto5.22%1,72190
3.Saleo Paleo4.28%703
4.for99c3.62%27610
5.CARBOB3.57%1405
6.shwayba3.01%1665
7.anonymous772.83%1414
8.WannaWinSoon2.77%2527
9.chipp2.55%39210
10.ScorpionPrince2.48%1,57039

 

 

 

Highest Lifetime Hit Ratio

 

   Member  Hit Ratio  Picks  Hits 
1.PadawanLotto4.00%2,619105
2.Rip Snorter2.67%88,1462,359
3.derek71.94%3,95277
4.WannaWinSoon1.86%3,06257
5.Rick G1.49%38,432573
6.joemillionaire1.47%81112
7.LottoVantage1.35%1,69823
8.RJOh1.31%4,41858
9.ScorpionPrince1.30%26,853350
10.vin061.23%27,947344

 

 

  The testing hasn't been going on long enough to call PadawanLotto's success proof of the system.

I don't own/use the system, and I'm not rushing out to buy it.

But there's a growing body of evidence (and hope) that Expert Lotto has found one of the ways a person can get onto the profitable side of things playing lotteries.

J

Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

It's about number behavior.

Egos don't count.

 

Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

 

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    Posted: June 29, 2006, 7:26 am - IP Logged

    Seems to me this is an ideal illustration of the positive side of things.

    It's a promising development, but it shows how LP can work for Lottery Post members.

    • People on the Systems Forum (and other forums) bouncing around ideas, helping one another to improve them,
    • People who find things that seem to work testing them on the Predictions page,
    • People who want to share their systems with LP users, either for money, or simply out of goodness demonstrating sound evidence of the success of the system

    This is what is happening with Expert Lotto system.

    Hopefully it's what will happen with a lot of other systems as LP grows and LP users develop and test their own methods systematically using the tools available to Premium Members.

    • Brainstorming
    • Developing
    • Testing

    That's the bastion that can't be beaten down by rhetoric.

    J

    Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

    It's about number behavior.

    Egos don't count.

     

    Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

     

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      Posted: June 29, 2006, 7:36 am - IP Logged

      It looks impressive.

      If it continues this way and he is not just in a period with good wins I might be interested.
      I hope Padawan will continue the test for 2 or 3 more months at least.

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        Posted: June 29, 2006, 7:49 am - IP Logged

        It looks impressive.

        If it continues this way and he is not just in a period with good wins I might be interested.
        I hope Padawan will continue the test for 2 or 3 more months at least.

        Millions Wanted:

        I agree, though I'll confess to being mildly hacked that Expert Lotto seems to have gotten there ahead of me. 

        If PadawanLotto continues testing a while, and if the successes continue, I'd be inclined to believe Expert Lotto might be the first commercial lotto software I've ever heard of that's worth the price.

        Not to suggest I'll buy it.  I'm a prideful man and I intend to accomplish what Padawan and Expert Lotto are doing standing on my own hind legs.

        But every time Padawan posts a prediction the status of success appears to solidify more.

        I'm liable to have to re-focus, return to the memory of why I began coming to LP and experimenting with numbers in the first place...... to win money.  Where the system for doing so came from doesn't have any bearing on the matter.

        But if I do it's going to be a blow to my pride.

        J

        Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

        It's about number behavior.

        Egos don't count.

         

        Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

         

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          Posted: June 29, 2006, 8:12 am - IP Logged

          Here's a link to the thread where Padawan announced he was using EL system to make predictions.

          It's about 17 pages into the thread, but it also has comments from Expert Lotto staff beginning about there discussing the system, its limitations, and their claims for what it can do.

          Wow - A system that works (link)

          Anyone interested in following the progress of this might want to backtrack and read the thread from there forward.

          I think you'll sense there's no effort on the part of Padawan to sell the system. 

          It's just a test.

          Lordylordylordy, sometimes I love Lottery Post more than other times.

          This is one of those upswing moments.

          It ain't Expert Lotto I love.  It's the fact LP is a single location where things can happen.  Where truth and fiction can fight it out in a public ring, and where truth can score a few knockdowns out in plain sight.

          Jack

           

          Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

          It's about number behavior.

          Egos don't count.

           

          Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

           

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            Posted: June 29, 2006, 8:37 am - IP Logged

            if truth can score a knockout punch i hope it delivers one with the grace of muhammad ali

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              Mike:

              Here's how it looks this moment:

              PadawanLotto: Statistics Summary

              Summary

               Statistic  Current Month  Last Month  Current Year  Last Year  Lifetime 
              Picks1,7212482,61902,619
              Hits9071050105
                  Hit Ratio5.23%2.82%4.01%0.00%4.01%
              Winnings$11,286$42$11,408$0$11,408
                  Prize Ratio655.78%16.94%435.59%0.00%435.59%

               

               

              PadawanLotto: Statistics by Game Type

              Pick 4

               Statistic  Current Month  Last Month  Current Year  Last Year  Lifetime 
              Picks43204320432
              Hits30303
                  Hit Ratio0.69%0.00%0.69%0.00%0.69%
              Winnings$300$0$300$0$300
                  Prize Ratio69.44%0.00%69.44%0.00%69.44%

              Pick 5

               Statistic  Current Month  Last Month  Current Year  Last Year  Lifetime 
              Picks3911341,12501,125
              Hits10909
                  Hit Ratio0.26%0.00%0.80%0.00%0.80%
              Winnings$10$0$90$0$90
                  Prize Ratio2.56%0.00%8.00%0.00%8.00%

              Pick 6

               Statistic  Current Month  Last Month  Current Year  Last Year  Lifetime 
              Picks748147620762
              Hits81182082
                  Hit Ratio10.83%7.14%10.76%0.00%10.76%
              Winnings$10,965$5$10,970$0$10,970
                  Prize Ratio1465.91%35.71%1439.63%0.00%1439.63%

              Other

               Statistic  Current Month  Last Month  Current Year  Last Year  Lifetime 
              Picks1501003000300
              Hits5611011
                  Hit Ratio3.33%6.00%3.67%0.00%3.67%
              Winnings$11$37$48$0$48
                  Prize Ratio7.33%37.00%16.00%0.00%16.00%

               

              As you can see, Padawan's main success has been with Pick 6. (I'd not examined the record too closely until now).  I probably should have tagged this thread as being of interest to Pick 6ers, instead of Pick 5ers.

              Padawan's using the system on West Virginia, mainly, which is a 6/25 system.  Probably the easiest one we know about to predict against because of that 25 on the right side of the slash.

              However, that doesn't take anything away from Expert Lotto, nor from Padawan.  Every top predictor on LP has made predictions for that lottery.  It's been the source of a lot of our successes in the ratings. 

              But we haven't approached the success Padawan's having with it using EL (thus far).

              Jack

               

               

               

               

              Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

              It's about number behavior.

              Egos don't count.

               

              Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

               

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                Posted: June 29, 2006, 9:15 am - IP Logged

                For those of you who don't want to go to the Lottery Systems Forum, here's PadawanLotto's latest post concerning EL system, how he's using it, how he feels he's doing, how he feels it's doing:


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                Yes, I'm still using EL's Winning Numbers History filter with WV Cash 25 and I had 2 5 of 6, 2 4 of 6, and 17 3 of 6 on 6/27.

                I have found so far that the WN History filter works well with the Cash 25 but is more difficult when working with larger lotto's.

                The WN History shows you estimated values and there are times when it is easy to make good choices and there are time when it's just better not to play.

                I will continue to use the WN History filter for Cash 25 and at the same time see if I can get it to work well with some other larger lottos.

                Tomorrows estimates are not promising but I will post predictions for the WV Cash 25 using EL.

                 

                 

                 

                Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                It's about number behavior.

                Egos don't count.

                 

                Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                 

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                  He seems to be doing pretty well.

                  Dance like no one is watching.

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                    Bellyache:

                    Yep.  It certainly seems that way.

                    Interesting to watch it all to see how it holds up over the long haul.

                    J

                    Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                    It's about number behavior.

                    Egos don't count.

                     

                    Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                     

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                      LOTTOMIKENew MexicoRoad Runner Cash4 of 503-15-19-25-2803-15-19-24-25$150

                       

                       

                      how bout it jack!  right in your home state.....6/29/06

                       

                      ready to hit 5 out of 5.......

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                        Posted: June 30, 2006, 7:37 am - IP Logged

                        Cool Mike.  Congrats.

                        J

                        Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                        It's about number behavior.

                        Egos don't count.

                         

                        Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                         

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                          Nice going Lottomike!

                          Dance like no one is watching.

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                            How'd you do tonight, Mike?

                            J

                            Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                            It's about number behavior.

                            Egos don't count.

                             

                            Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                             

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                              Padawan:

                              Looks as though you were correct in your analysis of the iffyness of those numbers you picked yesterday.

                              Some days are like that.

                              Keep trucking.

                              J

                              Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                              It's about number behavior.

                              Egos don't count.

                               

                              Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser