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Jun 29, 2006, 7:00 am

Those of you who don't visit the Lottery Systems Forum might have missed this.

PadawanLotto is testing a system on the LP Predictions page. He's a user of the system who agreed to test it here.

PadawanLotto is not an employee of Expert Lotto.

Expert Lotto (link) is one of the several threads where all this has been discussed.

But what you might find interesting is how the test is going:

Top 10 Predictors for All States, All Game Types

Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Prize Ratio)

	Member	Prize Ratio	Wagers	Winnings
1.	rng777	1440.36%	$1,090	$15,700
2.	PadawanLotto	655.78%	$1,721	$11,286
3.	nanmaxsplace	197.94%	$2,526	$5,000
4.	joemillionaire	187.42%	$811	$1,520
5.	NumbersDaily	187.05%	$23,480	$43,920
6.	nassaugames	139.60%	$351	$490
7.	lucky743	126.12%	$32,644	$41,172
8.	shwayba	120.48%	$166	$200
9.	undress	113.81%	$4,516	$5,140
10.	Msbgentle	113.53%	$1,515	$1,720

Highest Lifetime Prize Ratio

	Member	Prize Ratio	Wagers	Winnings
1.	PadawanLotto	435.58%	$2,619	$11,408
2.	VALJEAN	397.98%	$2,181	$8,680
3.	SuperWheeler	196.54%	$33,794	$66,420
4.	joemillionaire	187.42%	$811	$1,520
5.	Jake	138.92%	$4,103	$5,700
6.	rng777	131.57%	$15,010	$19,750
7.	The Deer Hunter	117.56%	$2,943	$3,460
8.	Rick G	113.43%	$38,432	$43,596
9.	daydreamer76	111.86%	$590	$660
10.	ayenowitall	102.00%	$2,246	$2,291

Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Hit Ratio)

	Member	Hit Ratio	Picks	Hits
1.	Rick G	5.56%	1,474	82
2.	PadawanLotto	5.22%	1,721	90
3.	Saleo Paleo	4.28%	70	3
4.	for99c	3.62%	276	10
5.	CARBOB	3.57%	140	5
6.	shwayba	3.01%	166	5
7.	anonymous77	2.83%	141	4
8.	WannaWinSoon	2.77%	252	7
9.	chipp	2.55%	392	10
10.	ScorpionPrince	2.48%	1,570	39

Highest Lifetime Hit Ratio

	Member	Hit Ratio	Picks	Hits
1.	PadawanLotto	4.00%	2,619	105
2.	Rip Snorter	2.67%	88,146	2,359
3.	derek7	1.94%	3,952	77
4.	WannaWinSoon	1.86%	3,062	57
5.	Rick G	1.49%	38,432	573
6.	joemillionaire	1.47%	811	12
7.	LottoVantage	1.35%	1,698	23
8.	RJOh	1.31%	4,418	58
9.	ScorpionPrince	1.30%	26,853	350
10.	vin06	1.23%	27,947	344

The testing hasn't been going on long enough to call PadawanLotto's success proof of the system.

I don't own/use the system, and I'm not rushing out to buy it.

But there's a growing body of evidence (and hope) that Expert Lotto has found one of the ways a person can get onto the profitable side of things playing lotteries.

Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

It's about number behavior.

Egos don't count.

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Rip Snorter

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Jun 29, 2006, 7:26 am
Seems to me this is an ideal illustration of the positive side of things.
It's a promising development, but it shows how LP can work for Lottery Post members.
- People on the Systems Forum (and other forums) bouncing around ideas, helping one another to improve them,
- People who find things that seem to work testing them on the Predictions page,
- People who want to share their systems with LP users, either for money, or simply out of goodness demonstrating sound evidence of the success of the system
This is what is happening with Expert Lotto system.
Hopefully it's what will happen with a lot of other systems as LP grows and LP users develop and test their own methods systematically using the tools available to Premium Members.
- Brainstorming
- Developing
- Testing
That's the bastion that can't be beaten down by rhetoric.
J
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Egos don't count.

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MillionsWanted

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Jun 29, 2006, 7:36 am

It looks impressive.
If it continues this way and he is not just in a period with good wins I might be interested.
I hope Padawan will continue the test for 2 or 3 more months at least.
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Jun 29, 2006, 7:49 am

Quote: Originally posted by MillionsWanted on June 29, 2006
It looks impressive.
If it continues this way and he is not just in a period with good wins I might be interested.
I hope Padawan will continue the test for 2 or 3 more months at least.
Millions Wanted:
I agree, though I'll confess to being mildly hacked that Expert Lotto seems to have gotten there ahead of me.
If PadawanLotto continues testing a while, and if the successes continue, I'd be inclined to believe Expert Lotto might be the first commercial lotto software I've ever heard of that's worth the price.
Not to suggest I'll buy it. I'm a prideful man and I intend to accomplish what Padawan and Expert Lotto are doing standing on my own hind legs.
But every time Padawan posts a prediction the status of success appears to solidify more.
I'm liable to have to re-focus, return to the memory of why I began coming to LP and experimenting with numbers in the first place...... to win money. Where the system for doing so came from doesn't have any bearing on the matter.
But if I do it's going to be a blow to my pride.
J

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Jun 29, 2006, 8:12 am

Here's a link to the thread where Padawan announced he was using EL system to make predictions.
It's about 17 pages into the thread, but it also has comments from Expert Lotto staff beginning about there discussing the system, its limitations, and their claims for what it can do.
Wow - A system that works (link)
Anyone interested in following the progress of this might want to backtrack and read the thread from there forward.
I think you'll sense there's no effort on the part of Padawan to sell the system.
It's just a test.
Lordylordylordy, sometimes I love Lottery Post more than other times.
This is one of those upswing moments.
It ain't Expert Lotto I love. It's the fact LP is a single location where things can happen. Where truth and fiction can fight it out in a public ring, and where truth can score a few knockdowns out in plain sight.
Jack

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LOTTOMIKE

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Jun 29, 2006, 8:37 am

if truth can score a knockout punch i hope it delivers one with the grace of muhammad ali

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Jun 29, 2006, 8:54 am

Mike:

Here's how it looks this moment:

PadawanLotto: Statistics Summary

Summary

Statistic	Current Month	Last Month	Current Year	Last Year	Lifetime
Picks	1,721	248	2,619	0	2,619
Hits	90	7	105	0	105
Hit Ratio	5.23%	2.82%	4.01%	0.00%	4.01%
Winnings	$11,286	$42	$11,408	$0	$11,408
Prize Ratio	655.78%	16.94%	435.59%	0.00%	435.59%

PadawanLotto: Statistics by Game Type

Pick 4

Statistic	Current Month	Last Month	Current Year	Last Year	Lifetime
Picks	432	0	432	0	432
Hits	3	0	3	0	3
Hit Ratio	0.69%	0.00%	0.69%	0.00%	0.69%
Winnings	$300	$0	$300	$0	$300
Prize Ratio	69.44%	0.00%	69.44%	0.00%	69.44%

Pick 5

Statistic	Current Month	Last Month	Current Year	Last Year	Lifetime
Picks	391	134	1,125	0	1,125
Hits	1	0	9	0	9
Hit Ratio	0.26%	0.00%	0.80%	0.00%	0.80%
Winnings	$10	$0	$90	$0	$90
Prize Ratio	2.56%	0.00%	8.00%	0.00%	8.00%

Pick 6

Statistic	Current Month	Last Month	Current Year	Last Year	Lifetime
Picks	748	14	762	0	762
Hits	81	1	82	0	82
Hit Ratio	10.83%	7.14%	10.76%	0.00%	10.76%
Winnings	$10,965	$5	$10,970	$0	$10,970
Prize Ratio	1465.91%	35.71%	1439.63%	0.00%	1439.63%

Other

Statistic	Current Month	Last Month	Current Year	Last Year	Lifetime
Picks	150	100	300	0	300
Hits	5	6	11	0	11
Hit Ratio	3.33%	6.00%	3.67%	0.00%	3.67%
Winnings	$11	$37	$48	$0	$48
Prize Ratio	7.33%	37.00%	16.00%	0.00%	16.00%

As you can see, Padawan's main success has been with Pick 6. (I'd not examined the record too closely until now). I probably should have tagged this thread as being of interest to Pick 6ers, instead of Pick 5ers.

Padawan's using the system on West Virginia, mainly, which is a 6/25 system. Probably the easiest one we know about to predict against because of that 25 on the right side of the slash.

However, that doesn't take anything away from Expert Lotto, nor from Padawan. Every top predictor on LP has made predictions for that lottery. It's been the source of a lot of our successes in the ratings.

But we haven't approached the success Padawan's having with it using EL (thus far).

Jack

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Jun 29, 2006, 9:15 am

For those of you who don't want to go to the Lottery Systems Forum, here's PadawanLotto's latest post concerning EL system, how he's using it, how he feels he's doing, how he feels it's doing:
PadawanLotto

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Yes, I'm still using EL's Winning Numbers History filter with WV Cash 25 and I had 2 5 of 6, 2 4 of 6, and 17 3 of 6 on 6/27.
I have found so far that the WN History filter works well with the Cash 25 but is more difficult when working with larger lotto's.
The WN History shows you estimated values and there are times when it is easy to make good choices and there are time when it's just better not to play.
I will continue to use the WN History filter for Cash 25 and at the same time see if I can get it to work well with some other larger lottos.
Tomorrows estimates are not promising but I will post predictions for the WV Cash 25 using EL.

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Jun 29, 2006, 12:32 pm

He seems to be doing pretty well.
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Jun 29, 2006, 5:32 pm

Bellyache:
Yep. It certainly seems that way.
Interesting to watch it all to see how it holds up over the long haul.
J

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LOTTOMIKE

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Jun 30, 2006, 1:33 am

LOTTOMIKE New Mexico Road Runner Cash 4 of 5 03-15-19-25-28 03-15-19-24-25 $150

how bout it jack! right in your home state.....6/29/06

ready to hit 5 out of 5.......
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Jun 30, 2006, 7:37 am

Cool Mike. Congrats.
J

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bellyache

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Jun 30, 2006, 11:53 am

Nice going Lottomike!
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Jun 30, 2006, 11:54 pm

How'd you do tonight, Mike?
J

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Jul 1, 2006, 2:09 pm

Padawan:
Looks as though you were correct in your analysis of the iffyness of those numbers you picked yesterday.
Some days are like that.
Keep trucking.
J

Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.
It's about number behavior.
Egos don't count.

Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser