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Posted: July 7, 2006, 7:53 am - IP Logged

Maybe.

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    possibly.

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      Jap69:

      I subscribe to something called, "Alex Jones Newsletter"..... don't recall subscribing, but it comes sometimes, gets through the spam-guard:

      .

      Man Raided By FBI, ATF, After Handing Out 'Subversive' Alex Jones

      Posted by: "Paul Joseph Watson" watson@prisonplanet.com   onedeaddj

      Thu Jul 6, 2006 11:23 am (PST)



      Man Raided By FBI, ATF, Canadian Law Enforcement After Handing Out 'Subversive' Alex Jones Material
      Gun seller questioned on militia, ownership of George Washington speeches

      Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | July 6 2006

      A Dillon Montana man had his home raided by 40 FBI, BATF and Canadian law enforcement agents after handing out Alex Jones' material to his local Sheriff which was subsequently deemed 'subversive'.

      Richard Salada sells 80% completed firearms kits intended for purchasers who want to avoid having to register their weapons in government databases. The kits are completely legal in Montana.

      Salada was politically active in disseminating the material of Alex Jones and others in his area, including handing out material to his local Sheriff.

      "On Monday morning the Sheriff called me and said, I've read all your stuff, I would like to speak to you on Wednesday, could you come in," Salada told GCN radio host Jack Blood.

      Salada said he thought the scheduled meeting on Wednesday was strange because there was an election on the Tuesday and the Sheriff wouldn't have known whether he'd still be in office or not.

      "Wednesday morning I get a phone call saying 'I lost the election and it's even more important that we have our meeting than it was before'."

      Salada collected material he had previously handed out to the Sheriff and traveled to his office.

      "I walk into the room and there's way too many people in the Sheriff's office," said Salada.

      Salada said he knew he was in trouble as he was introduced to BATF and FBI agents and handed a search warrant and a promise that his premises were going to be raided.

      "I read the search warrant and low and behold there's no signed affidavit," said Salada.

      Salada told the Sheriff that the search warrant was therefore void to which the FBI and BATF responded that the affidavit was secret and sealed by the court.

      "Now they can make up the affidavit to match what they found if they want to," said Salada as he was told that the agents would carry out the search anyway.

      Salada was then escorted by an estimated 40 FBI, ATF and Canadian law enforcement agents to his property. Salada asked if he could call his wife so as to enable her and their two small children to leave the property before the SWAT team arrived but was refused on the grounds that he was giving her a secret code to destroy evidence. However, the Sheriff allowed the call to be made and the family was able to leave. At no point was Salada shown any identification by any of the agents.

      The cadre of agents, which now included Canadian AFT agents, then began the process of methodically cataloguing and seizing Salada's possessions - bizarrely urinating on the exterior of the property ignoring the two bathrooms located inside the building.

      Salada was told, without being shown any supporting evidence, that five of the pistols he had sold were used to commit murders in Canada.

      "I said look, guns don't kill people - people kill people," said Salada.

      Following the raid Salada was questioned on his ownership of a Citizen's Rulebook, speeches by George Washington and Alex Jones' books and videos. He was asked why he read and listened to them and if he believed them.

      The agents asked Salada if he was in a militia or if he knew anyone that was. Salada had previously sent out material asking why Montana didn't have a state organized militia when it was required by law.

      The agents then specifically asked Salada about specific individuals in the freedom movement, including JPFO's Aaron Zelman, author Devvy Kidd and constitutional attorney Edward Vieira. The only way the agents could have known about Salada's interest in the work of Kidd and Vieira was if they had gained access to his e mail.

      After this three hour interrogation the agents took Salada's entire inventory of 80% finished frames, copied his computer hard drive (causing the computer to break down), and left.

      Tune in to the Alex Jones show today for more details on the raid. The audio MP3 of the interview will be posted here later.
      It's entirely too easy for a man to step in something these days and discover it devoured his foot.
      I ain't attending no town meetings.
      If there's a such thing as a 'majority' in this country anymore it's going to have to gore its own oxen without any help from this old three-legged coyote.

       

      Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

      It's about number behavior.

      Egos don't count.

       

      Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

       

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        Posted: July 7, 2006, 8:27 am - IP Logged

        bizarrely urinating on the exterior of the property ignoring the two bathrooms located inside the building.

        That's the part that really bothers me.

        I don't like nobody peeing in my yard, other than me.

        J

         

         

        Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

        It's about number behavior.

        Egos don't count.

         

        Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

         

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          bizarrely urinating on the exterior of the property ignoring the two bathrooms located inside the building.

          That's the part that really bothers me.

          I don't like nobody peeing in my yard, other than me.

          J

           

           

          ROFL

          It's going to be a good day...

          Smiley Steve

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            Posted: July 7, 2006, 2:02 pm - IP Logged

            Jap69:

            I subscribe to something called, "Alex Jones Newsletter"..... don't recall subscribing, but it comes sometimes, gets through the spam-guard:

            .

            Man Raided By FBI, ATF, After Handing Out 'Subversive' Alex Jones

            Posted by: "Paul Joseph Watson" watson@prisonplanet.com   onedeaddj

            Thu Jul 6, 2006 11:23 am (PST)



            Man Raided By FBI, ATF, Canadian Law Enforcement After Handing Out 'Subversive' Alex Jones Material
            Gun seller questioned on militia, ownership of George Washington speeches

            Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | July 6 2006

            A Dillon Montana man had his home raided by 40 FBI, BATF and Canadian law enforcement agents after handing out Alex Jones' material to his local Sheriff which was subsequently deemed 'subversive'.

            Richard Salada sells 80% completed firearms kits intended for purchasers who want to avoid having to register their weapons in government databases. The kits are completely legal in Montana.

            Salada was politically active in disseminating the material of Alex Jones and others in his area, including handing out material to his local Sheriff.

            "On Monday morning the Sheriff called me and said, I've read all your stuff, I would like to speak to you on Wednesday, could you come in," Salada told GCN radio host Jack Blood.

            Salada said he thought the scheduled meeting on Wednesday was strange because there was an election on the Tuesday and the Sheriff wouldn't have known whether he'd still be in office or not.

            "Wednesday morning I get a phone call saying 'I lost the election and it's even more important that we have our meeting than it was before'."

            Salada collected material he had previously handed out to the Sheriff and traveled to his office.

            "I walk into the room and there's way too many people in the Sheriff's office," said Salada.

            Salada said he knew he was in trouble as he was introduced to BATF and FBI agents and handed a search warrant and a promise that his premises were going to be raided.

            "I read the search warrant and low and behold there's no signed affidavit," said Salada.

            Salada told the Sheriff that the search warrant was therefore void to which the FBI and BATF responded that the affidavit was secret and sealed by the court.

            "Now they can make up the affidavit to match what they found if they want to," said Salada as he was told that the agents would carry out the search anyway.

            Salada was then escorted by an estimated 40 FBI, ATF and Canadian law enforcement agents to his property. Salada asked if he could call his wife so as to enable her and their two small children to leave the property before the SWAT team arrived but was refused on the grounds that he was giving her a secret code to destroy evidence. However, the Sheriff allowed the call to be made and the family was able to leave. At no point was Salada shown any identification by any of the agents.

            The cadre of agents, which now included Canadian AFT agents, then began the process of methodically cataloguing and seizing Salada's possessions - bizarrely urinating on the exterior of the property ignoring the two bathrooms located inside the building.

            Salada was told, without being shown any supporting evidence, that five of the pistols he had sold were used to commit murders in Canada.

            "I said look, guns don't kill people - people kill people," said Salada.

            Following the raid Salada was questioned on his ownership of a Citizen's Rulebook, speeches by George Washington and Alex Jones' books and videos. He was asked why he read and listened to them and if he believed them.

            The agents asked Salada if he was in a militia or if he knew anyone that was. Salada had previously sent out material asking why Montana didn't have a state organized militia when it was required by law.

            The agents then specifically asked Salada about specific individuals in the freedom movement, including JPFO's Aaron Zelman, author Devvy Kidd and constitutional attorney Edward Vieira. The only way the agents could have known about Salada's interest in the work of Kidd and Vieira was if they had gained access to his e mail.

            After this three hour interrogation the agents took Salada's entire inventory of 80% finished frames, copied his computer hard drive (causing the computer to break down), and left.

            Tune in to the Alex Jones show today for more details on the raid. The audio MP3 of the interview will be posted here later.
            It's entirely too easy for a man to step in something these days and discover it devoured his foot.
            I ain't attending no town meetings.
            If there's a such thing as a 'majority' in this country anymore it's going to have to gore its own oxen without any help from this old three-legged coyote.

             

            That story points to the fact if you oppose what the politicans or minority groups want they will take you thru the grinder on anything they can find on you.

            They will make life rougher than you ever thought it would be.

            Go to a meeting anywhere and voice your opposition you are on the crap list.

            MAGA

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              Posted: July 7, 2006, 2:23 pm - IP Logged

              JAP69:

              Strange, surreal, almost unbelievable stuff.

              Possessing any written material that doesn't involve child porn or instructions for building a nuclear weapon in the basement, it would have seemed a generation ago, ain't something a person can be arrested for.

              Brave new world.

              I used to do a lot of wondering how the Weimar Republic went from being one of the most civilized nations in the world in 1932, to being the 3rd Reich from 1933 to 1945.

              I still wonder, but I do my wondering closer to home.

              J

              Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

              It's about number behavior.

              Egos don't count.

               

              Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

               

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                Alex Jones is the fellow who made a video about 911 called "Where's the plane?"

                He claims that there was no plane that hit the Pentagon, it was a rocket.  

                "Where's the plane" refers to apparently, well - where's the plane wreckage? 

                One of his websites is:

                http://www.infowars.com 

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                  Posted: July 7, 2006, 10:04 pm - IP Logged

                  I've been wondering if 'overseas ISP's will be a way to shield online gaming from U.S. authorities. And if transferring winnings to the states, just keep it in increments of less than the red flag amount.

                  I don't think new U.S. law can stop online gambling.

                   

                  Sure. I doubt many (if any) members of LP have to worry that they must transfer amounts of $10,000 or more from their online accounts to themselves. LOL ! But yeah, in these days of multi-billion dollar expenditures, the govt isn't going to worry about someone putting 2 grand in their savings account. Heck, the states looteries treat 500 bucks like it was non-existent if you win a straight Pick 3 for example. They don't want to be bothered with the paperwork, so they let the retailer cash it, without any ID saying who you are. For $500 you don't eveen have to sign the ticket you turn in. It's small potatoes. So is a couple of grand or so....it's just not what it used to be...

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                  Answer: His lips are moving.