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Posted: July 28, 2006, 2:42 pm - IP Logged

I have found that DSUM of 10 days ago for a pick 3 will contain most of the next 9 days of results.  That trend seems to work up to day 1. (i.e. day nine contains 8,7,6,5...)

What if you took the DSUM for all 10 days and found the common numbers betwen all of them?  I don't have a utility to find common numbers.  I would be very interested to see the results.

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    I have found that DSUM of 10 days ago for a pick 3 will contain most of the next 9 days of results.  That trend seems to work up to day 1. (i.e. day nine contains 8,7,6,5...)

    What if you took the DSUM for all 10 days and found the common numbers betwen all of them?  I don't have a utility to find common numbers.  I would be very interested to see the results.

    Hi SkyHawg. Interesting observation you made. Worth checking out. Thanks.

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      I have found that DSUM of 10 days ago for a pick 3 will contain most of the next 9 days of results.  That trend seems to work up to day 1. (i.e. day nine contains 8,7,6,5...)

      What if you took the DSUM for all 10 days and found the common numbers betwen all of them?  I don't have a utility to find common numbers.  I would be very interested to see the results.

      Hi,

      you asked pretty much the same question in this thread: http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/139104

      There is an excellent utility here at LP to check for common numbers, the Deflate 3 number reduction system.
      You can paste the numbers there, press "Deflate numbers"-button and it will tell you what numbers;

      I tested GA mid, draw 740 is last draw:

      Results: 180 (that means 180 unique numbers, boxed)

      Tier 9
      639(963,396,639,963,396,639,693,639) 740(074,407,740,074,407,740,704,740) 851(185,518,851,185,518,851,815,851) 962(296,629,962,296,629,962,926,962) 073(307,730,073,307,730,073,037,073) 184(418,841,184,418,841,184,148,184) 295(529,952,295,529,952,295,259,295) 306(630,063,306,630,063,306,360,306) 417(741,174,417,741,174,417,471,417) 528(852,285,528,852,285,528,582,528)

      Tier 6
      631(316,316,163,613,361) 742(427,427,274,724,472) 853(538,538,385,835,583) 964(649,649,496,946,694) 075(750,750,507,057,705) 186(861,861,618,168,816) 297(972,972,729,279,927) 308(083,083,830,380,038) 419(194,194,941,491,149) 520(205,205,052,502,250) 641(146,416,164,416,461) 752(257,527,275,527,572) 863(368,638,386,638,683) 974(479,749,497,749,794) 085(580,850,508,850,805) 196(691,961,619,961,916) 207(702,072,720,072,027) 318(813,183,831,183,138) 429(924,294,942,294,249) 530(035,305,053,305,350)

      Tier 5
      635(356,563,356,635) 746(467,674,467,746) 857(578,785,578,857) 968(689,896,689,968) 079(790,907,790,079) 180(801,018,801,180) 291(912,129,912,291) 302(023,230,023,302) 413(134,341,134,413) 524(245,452,245,524) 640(406,064,640,406) 751(517,175,751,517) 862(628,286,862,628) 973(739,397,973,739) 084(840,408,084,840) 195(951,519,195,951) 206(062,620,206,062) 317(173,731,317,173) 428(284,842,428,284) 539(395,953,539,395) 735(537,357,573,573) 846(648,468,684,684) 957(759,579,795,795) 068(860,680,806,806) 179(971,791,917,917) 280(082,802,028,028) 391(193,913,139,139) 402(204,024,240,240) 513(315,135,351,351) 624(426,246,462,462) 745(457,457,574,745) 856(568,568,685,856) 967(679,679,796,967) 078(780,780,807,078) 189(891,891,918,189) 290(902,902,029,290) 301(013,013,130,301) 412(124,124,241,412) 523(235,235,352,523) 634(346,346,463,634)

      Tier 4
      659(695,956,695) 760(706,067,706) 871(817,178,817) 982(928,289,928) 093(039,390,039) 104(140,401,140) 215(251,512,251) 326(362,623,362) 437(473,734,473) 548(584,845,584) 690(960,906,906) 701(071,017,017) 812(182,128,128) 923(293,239,239) 034(304,340,340) 145(415,451,451) 256(526,562,562) 367(637,673,673) 478(748,784,784) 589(859,895,895)

      Tier 3
      645(456,564) 756(567,675) 867(678,786) 978(789,897) 089(890,908) 190(901,019) 201(012,120) 312(123,231) 423(234,342) 534(345,453)

      Tier 2
      650(506) 761(617) 872(728) 983(839) 094(940) 105(051) 216(162) 327(273) 438(384) 549(495) 651(516) 762(627) 873(738) 984(849) 095(950) 106(061) 217(172) 328(283) 439(394) 540(405) 699(699) 700(700) 811(811) 922(922) 033(033) 144(144) 255(255) 366(366) 477(477) 588(588) 855(855) 966(966) 077(077) 188(188) 299(299) 300(300) 411(411) 522(522) 633(633) 744(744)

      Tier 1
      655 766 877 988 099 100 211 322 433 544 755 866 977 088 199 200 311 422 533 644 799 800 911 022 133 244 355 466 577 688 899 900 011 122 233 344 455 566 677 788

      Tier 1 means that these numbers occured once,
      Tier 2 means that these numbers occured twice,
      and so on

      I believe you can put in upto 10000 numbers to deflate. 

      cheers & good luck
      Ricky

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        Posted: July 29, 2006, 5:42 am - IP Logged

        btw, since DSUM will often create all the possible boxed numbers, it is quite normal that the DSUM of draw A will produce the winner for draw A +10

        cheers
        Ricky

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          Posted: July 29, 2006, 10:03 am - IP Logged

          I did a small test
          on GA mid:

           Used: 10 draws  
          Last draw Next draw Ranking of boxed combo Rank straight number 
           827 166 171 (17 times)
           674 (5 times)
           166 592  60 ( 33 times)
           273 (7 times)
           592 331 198 (15 times)
           647 (5 times)
           331 628 102 (28 times)
           729 (4 times)
           628 442 202 (14 times)
           460 (6 times)
           442 647 84 (30 times)
           707 (4 times)
           647 235 79 (33 times)
           812 (4 times)
           235 294 59 (35 times)
           645 (5 times)
           294 978 78 (34 times)
           711 (4 times) 

          This is ofcourse just 1 example, and with 10 draws used.
          It is quite some work to achieve lol

          But, there is something about the straights.... playing those that have 4 or 5 occurancies, at $1 for the example, costs from $300 to $400.
          On these 10 tests it would have cost between $3000 and $4000 and payback would have been $7200.

          More testing would be needed for this. 

          Somehow you would need to cut down the plays, using only the combo's with at least 1 digit from the last draw, or from the currently dominant 3-digit serie (see pick3-forum, threads by Win  D)...
          Surely that would sometimes throw out the winning number...

          cheers
          Ricky

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            Posted: July 29, 2006, 10:40 am - IP Logged

            Okay, i redid the test

            Used: 10 draws: created
            only combo's that had at least
            1 digit from the previous draw
              
            Last draw Next draw Ranking of boxed combo Rank straight number 
             827 166 No hit
             No hit
             166 592  No hit
             No hit
             592 331 No hit
             No hit
             331 628 No hit
             No hit
             628 442 128 (14 times)
             299 (6 times)
             442 647 45 (30 times)
             333 (4 times) --> 142 combos with 4 or 5 occurancies
             647 235 No hit
             No hit
             235 294 36 (35 times)
             421 (5 times) --> 237 combos with 4 or 5 occurancies
             294 978 57 (34 times)
             477 (4 times) --> 224 combos with 4 or 5 occurancies


            More testing is needed here, but this looks quite promising!! Even when considered that 5 out of the 10 draws in this example were without a repeating digit.

            Now, with the dominant 3-digit series.
            I used not the longest running serie, but the serie with the highest Digit-Hit-percentage. If such a serie ends, then you lose for sure.

            Used: 10 draws: using
            3 digits from serie
              
            Last draw Next draw Ranking of boxed combo Rank straight number 
             827 166 : serie 1, 3, 7
             113 (17 times)
             446 (5 times) : 238 combos
             166 592 : serie 2, 3, 6
             40 ( 33 times)
             158 (7 times) : 241 combos 
             592 331: serie 1, 2, 9
             126 (15 times)
             400 (5 times) : 230 combos
             331 628 : serie 2, 3, 6
             70 (28 times)
              467 (4 times) : 184 combos
             628 442 : serie 2, 3, 6
             129 (14 times)
             284 (6 times) : 193 combos
             442 647 : serie 2, 3, 6
             59 (30 times)
             443 (4 times) : 183 combos
             647 235 : serie 2, 3, 4
             55 (33 times)
             525 (4 times) : 212 combos
             235 294 : serie 2, 3, 4
             39 (35 times)
             417 (5 times) : 231 combos
             294 978 : serie 2, 3, 4
              230 combos

             Okay, what does all this mean: i only "played" the numbers, straght, that occur 4 or 5 times in the list created with DSUM, using 10 draws.
            The amount of combos this are is listed under "Rank straight number"
            Total draws played: 10
            Total cost: $1942
            Total hits: 6
            Payout: $5400
            Result: $3458

            lol 

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              I guess making $3458 in 10 days is not interesting enough... lol

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                I guess making $3458 in 10 days is not interesting enough... lol

                Its interesting to me!

                Hi Ricky. Wow. I've been peeking in for a couple of days.

                Intense stats. Now you have mind running. I'm going to marinate on what you just posted.

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                  I tested three methods.

                  1. I produced DSUMs for 10 numbers.  Then I took the DSUM from 10 deflate 3 to 9. took out the numbers that only occured in one but not another.  Then 9 to 8, 8 to 7... 2 to 1.  Everytime it produced about 200 results.

                  2. I took DSUM 10 and sampled several days and compared them to day 10.

                  3.  I took all 10 days put them in Deflate 3 and compared.

                   What I found out is that method 1 produced the best option to produce future numbers and contained most of the numbers from the past.

                  Method 2 produced unreliable results.

                  Method 3 didn't sort out hardly any numbers because a number is 10 might be in 3 and so it wouldn't be sorted.