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(44-46),6,6,6 wheels

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Posted: August 24, 2006, 4:15 am - IP Logged

Hi, anyone know of any program (or a site that has one pre-generated) that can do 6 of 6 wheels (for pick 6)?  CoverMaster will only let me do 5-of-5 or 5-of-6.  I'm looking to generate some for 44 - 46 numbers (out of 49).

Yes, I realize these wheels will be large and impractical to play - I'm testing something :)

Thanks in advance.

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    Posted: August 24, 2006, 6:42 pm - IP Logged

    Try Lotto Architect. It can generate such wheels easily. These are called full wheels and Covermaster produces only abbreviated ones. Full wheels also have the benefit to be filtered without implications whilst filtering abbr. wheels ruins their guarantee quickly.

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      Posted: August 27, 2006, 5:20 pm - IP Logged

      Thanks, I've downloaded it and I see how to generate full 6-6 wheels.

       

      However, since I'm playing with things, can LottoArchitect do a FULL 3-3 wheel as well?  I don't see an option to generate that (eg, 44-6-3-3).

       

      Doing some searching, it appears Gail Howard's "SmartLuck" software says it can do full wheels, but I'm not sure if it's worth the $34.95...

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        Posted: August 27, 2006, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

        Hi mabman, A 44,6,3,3 is called an abbreviated wheel, not a full wheel. Anything that has the form X,6,K,L with K,L not equal to 6 is an abbreviated wheel for a Pick 6 game. Lotto Architect fully supports the use of abbreviated wheels but only a few are included in the freeware version to save download bandwidth. You can either use the wheel database manager (found in the start menu of your system under the Lotto Architect menu) to import your own abbreviated wheels or read the licence agreement for ways to get the official database which includes this wheel as well.

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          Posted: August 27, 2006, 11:32 pm - IP Logged

          Just so I'm clear, by "full" 6-3-3 wheel, I mean, for instance, for a 44-6-3-3 wheel, CoverMaster indicates the number of combos "to test" is 13,244, but ultimately generates 919 ticket combos.

          I want to see all 13,244 possible combinations.

          Will your wheels database give me that?

          Also, does your database include 6-2-2 wheels with all possible combinations? (Again, testing things.)

          Thanks!

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            Posted: August 28, 2006, 9:30 am - IP Logged

            Just so I'm clear, by "full" 6-3-3 wheel, I mean, for instance, for a 44-6-3-3 wheel, CoverMaster indicates the number of combos "to test" is 13,244, but ultimately generates 919 ticket combos.

            I want to see all 13,244 possible combinations.

            Will your wheels database give me that?

            Also, does your database include 6-2-2 wheels with all possible combinations? (Again, testing things.)

            Thanks!

            Well, I doubt if you need those 13244 combinations you say because these are 3 numbers/ticket and are used only to test the coverage of the 44,6,3,3 wheel. The actual 44,6,3,3 wheel is those 919 tickets produced from Covermaster. If you still want to see these 13244 tickets, generate a full pick 3 wheel with 44 numbers 1-44 (13244 tickets produced) which are the combinations used to test the coverage of the 44,6,3,3 but it is of no use to you when playing a pick 6 game; used only to test the coverage of this specific wheel and they do not represent the actual wheel. If you want the theory behind this, that's a whole new discussion. Actually, forget completely about the 13244 combinations. These combinations cannot be used for lotto matters or analysis; only for the construction and testing of wheels coverage which is a whole subject of its own.

            Again, this is not called a full wheel, neither those 13244 tickets you say is the full wheel of 44,6,3,3.  A full wheel for a pick 6 game is an X,6,6,6 wheel only. Anything else is called an abbreviated wheel. 44,6,3,3 is an abbreviated wheel which is called a close-cover wheel in case it offers 100% coverage of those 13244 tickets Covermaster indicates. In short, the close-cover 44,6,3,3 wheel produced by Covermaster is 919 tickets and these are the ones to use and test. If you remove one ticket from this wheel, you have an open-cover 44,6,3,3 wheel because you do not have anymore 100% coverage of those 13244 combinations required for 100% coverage.

            The database is huge. You can visit my website to see wheels included. Also X,6,2,2 are included as well (which are called abbreviated wheels - not full wheels).

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              Posted: August 28, 2006, 12:13 pm - IP Logged

              Ah, OK, I've misunderstood how the wheels are being calculated - I thought calculations were being done against *entire* pick 6 combinations to determine a statistically relevant entry, and the others were just discarded.

              Anyway, I'll definitely look into your database, as it sounds quite comprehensive.

              Thanks for enlightening me :)