Honduras Member #20982 August 29, 2005 4715 Posts Offline

Posted: September 9, 2006, 5:12 pm - IP Logged

This is a pattern i constantly find in RNg's, maybe they could apply lotto machines....Is for a 35 ball lottery...

In 35 ball lotteries, you look at the history of the game from the beginning, you record how many times each number has played. You are going to find that the hot numbers is going to be something like 8 numbers no more than 12 for a 35 ball lottery ( i call them cold numbers and hot numbers, there is no warm numbers). Now as you progress every day, the lottery will tend to select 3 hot numbers and 2 cold numbers, Or it could be 3 cold numbers and 2 hot numbers, or 1 hot number and 4 cold numbers. It rarely selects 4 hot numbers and 1 cold numbers, 5 hot numbers, or 5 cold numbers ... That rarely happens. So if you have your numbers selected in your wheel, all you have to do is arranged them according to those 3 ratios (2hot numbers and 3 cold numbers, or 3 hot numbers and 2 cold numbers or 1 hot number and 4 cold numbers)...It will save your money. I don't know if there is a software that can wheel your number into a specify hot over cold ratio...Remember is only 3 ratios...

The only problem with this is that it applies to the history of 1 machine, so if your lottery changes lotto machines, you will have to record the numbers from the beginning of that new machine...

"...If you think about it, the stock market and taxes are in a way, a form of lottery..."

NASHVILLE, TENN United States Member #33372 February 20, 2006 1044 Posts Offline

Posted: September 11, 2006, 1:06 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on September 10, 2006

I forgot to mention...8 to 12 numbers you consider them hot numbers and the rest you consider them cold numbers...

"....If you think about it, the stock market and taxes are a form of lottery..."

It would appear to me that what you have done is divide the number set into two parts. You are using something to define the parameters of a hot number. What are you using?

Honduras Member #20982 August 29, 2005 4715 Posts Offline

Posted: September 11, 2006, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

To be more specific...A little bit of a correction...I said that it will select 3 hot numbers and 2 cold numbers, well that particular ratio is very rare too, is not going to be 3 hot numbers and 2 cold numbers...If i were you i will not se my wheel with the 3 over 2 ratio, only the 2 hot numbers and 3 cold numbers and the 1 hot number and 4 cold numbers...Also i will like to make the correction that is not the lottery following this pattern but RnG's..

How you keep track of the hot numbers and cold numbers...YOu take a piece of paper of a notebook and you list the numbers from 1 to 35...Everytimie the combinations come out you record them on that piece of paper...if the combinations 01-14-16-25-32 comes out, you put a 1 on the corresponding 01, you then put a 1 on the 14, a 1 on the 16, a 1 on the 25 and a 1 on the 32...If the second combinations comes out to be 01-13-25-27-30 you put a 2 on the 1 (since it already got 1), you mark 1 on the 13 (since it appear 1 time), you mark 2 on the 25 (since it appear twice), you mark 1 on the 27 and mark 1 on the 30...If the third combination is let's say 01-11-14-28-33 you do the following, you mark 3 on the 01 (since it appeared 3 times), you mark 1 on the 11, you mark 2 on the 14 (since it appeared twice), you mark 1 on the 28, and you mark 1 on the 33..And so on you go..This way is an easy way to keep track of the numbers..That's better than marking an "X" on each number because that way you will lose track, but if you do it the way i say it it will be easy to keep track...YOu will then noticed that some numbers appear more than others, they should range from 8 to 12 numbers. These will be your hot numbers and the rest of the numbers will be your cold numbers...If you mark an "X" on each number you will lose track of them, but if you mark them with a number you easily can keep track of them"

"..If you think about it, the stock market and taxes are a form of lottery..."

California United States Member #40563 June 4, 2006 39 Posts Offline

Posted: September 11, 2006, 9:41 pm - IP Logged

pumpi76 said: "YOu take a piece of paper of a notebook and you list the numbers from 1 to 35...Everytimie the combinations come out you record them on that piece of paper.''

Chart #4 in the Advantage Plus software will do that for you without having to record the numbers on paper. Maybe a little easier to use.

Honduras Member #20982 August 29, 2005 4715 Posts Offline

Posted: September 12, 2006, 3:17 pm - IP Logged

I don't know but i think you should follow it with pen and paper because if you have a software or company give you What's hot or what's cold you need to be aware of the following...As you progress recording the numbers you would notice that a small portion of the hot numbers will change. I"ll say 4 to 5 (out of the 8-12)numbers would change from hot to cold and then vice-versa...The number of hot numbers will not remain permanent over a small period of time, unless you have done like a 700 RnG outputs sample and the number of hot numbers is definate..But if you've done a smaller sample than 200 you would notice that some of the hot numbers will change to cold and then revert back again to beign hot numbers...

"...If you think about it, the stock market and taxes are a form of lottery..."

California United States Member #40563 June 4, 2006 39 Posts Offline

Posted: September 12, 2006, 10:46 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on September 12, 2006

I don't know but i think you should follow it with pen and paper because if you have a software or company give you What's hot or what's cold you need to be aware of the following...As you progress recording the numbers you would notice that a small portion of the hot numbers will change. I"ll say 4 to 5 (out of the 8-12)numbers would change from hot to cold and then vice-versa...The number of hot numbers will not remain permanent over a small period of time, unless you have done like a 700 RnG outputs sample and the number of hot numbers is definate..But if you've done a smaller sample than 200 you would notice that some of the hot numbers will change to cold and then revert back again to beign hot numbers...

"...If you think about it, the stock market and taxes are a form of lottery..."

Everything you say is covered here in Chart #4. The HOT number can be whatever you want it to be.

Honduras Member #20982 August 29, 2005 4715 Posts Offline

Posted: September 16, 2006, 8:04 pm - IP Logged

question...Would Advantage Plus Software wheel your wheel using the describe ratio of 2 hot numbers and 3 cold numbers or 1 hot numbers and 4 cold number?

"...If you think about it the stock market and taxes are a form of lottery.."

Honduras Member #20982 August 29, 2005 4715 Posts Offline

Posted: September 18, 2006, 3:37 pm - IP Logged

Right now i am working on PIck6, I am using 300 draws sample of RnG...Sometimes i think you need more draws, something like 500 to see results for pick 6...

I will also like to stress that for live drawing you need to go with the most common ratio...

My hunch is that for pick6 it will only select most of the time all 6 numbers been cold numbers or maybe 1 hot number and 5 cold numbers but i have yet to see and study it...

Theoretically speaking if it selects most of the time 6 cold numbers then the portion of hot numbers for pick6 must be larger than pick5, I speculate something like 12 to 18 hot numbers must be hot...If this is true (i have yet to experiment and study them), then you have a range between 1 to 31-37 total numbers and not 1 to 49 since most of the time the cold numbers are likely to come up...If is 1 hot number and 5 cold numbers, then you make your particular wheel be that way and you would greatly reduce your wheel too..But all this is theoretical speculation, i have yet to study the 300 Rng draws..Also, is RNG is not Actual live draws that i am studying...Who knows the rules may be different in Live Draws but i doubt it in this case...

I have yet to see, and once i finish with it, i'll post it here...

Honduras Member #20982 August 29, 2005 4715 Posts Offline

Posted: September 23, 2006, 9:25 pm - IP Logged

I would have to present my results for pick6 with another post because it is taking me 30 minutes to go through 10 RnG draws and by the time i am finish this post would have already been deleted or saved up with no chance of been retrieve...But i will title the same way: hot & cold ratio pattern # 2...

Honduras Member #20982 August 29, 2005 4715 Posts Offline

Posted: October 11, 2006, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

I said:

"My hunch is that for pick6 it will only select most of the time all 6 numbers been cold numbers or maybe 1 hot number and 5 cold numbers but i have yet to see and study it...

Theoretically speaking if it selects most of the time 6 cold numbers then the portion of hot numbers for pick6 must be larger than pick5, I speculate something like 12 to 18 hot numbers must be hot...If this is true (i have yet to experiment and study them), then you have a range between 1 to 31-37 total numbers and not 1 to 49 since most of the time the cold numbers are likely to come up..."

I wasn't able to try all 300 draws but i was able to analyze 200 draws, 197 to be exact because of a mistake i made and having to start over would really kill me...Out of the 197 draws, 84% (165 draws) of the time, the RnG would select 4 hot numbers and 2 cold numbers, also 2 hot numbers and 4 cold numbers and 3 hot numbers and 3 cold numbers...Very seldom did it select 5 hot numbers and 1 cold number, or 5 cold numbers and 1 hot numbers, or 6 hot numbers or 6 cold numbers...To my amaze i didn't find the 12 to 18 numbers that should have been hot numbers, instead i found 29 numbers that were hot numbers and the rest (21) were cold numbers (Actually it will alternate and be between 26 to 31 hot numbers)As you went along it will go from 26 to 31 numbers been hot and then it will go back to 26 numbers been hot and up to 31...As the number of hot numbers will change sometimes...So this mean you can wheel your wheel to be a specific way....

Honduras Member #20982 August 29, 2005 4715 Posts Offline

Posted: October 12, 2006, 2:19 pm - IP Logged

on the above thread/paragraph, correction, the rest were not 21 numbers but 20 since is a 6/49 game and not a 6/50 game....

I just realized today that i had made a copy starting from draw 102, so luckily i don't have to start back over from now...Soon i am going to try and find out if a RnG keeps tabs on the numbers is selects because that's my hunch that it does..I am not going to try and starts back over with the hot & cold number ratio, because is time consuming but instead i am going to try with the hot and cold numbers to see if the RnG keeps tabs on the numbers it selects...

Also This is RnG, i also believe that Real life lottery 6/49 & 9/42 would a little bit differently (e.g we may not have 26-31 hot numbers maybe less or more, and the types of hot and colds maybe a bit different, yet to see)...On my spare time i am going to browse states lotteries with 6/49 or 6/44 games and see if i can download or acquire 200 to 300 draws (if they have that much)...However it will not be for a very while that i will post the results here because it is time consuming recording the hot and cold ratio...In a 300 sample you have to record on a graph how many times each numbers appear until you can deem or differentiate what's hot and what's cold..The secret word is "differentiation"....And that may take lots of draws...For example on my 300 sample draw i was able to differentiate starting from draw 102....You then record each results of hot & cold of each combination and on a separate paper record how many cold numbers and how many hot numbers you have gone through so far...This will take me a couple of months, because i am bussy right now with total sums trying to figure out a way to correctly point out which total sum is due next withing 5-10 sum totals selected...

"....Laura Simpson from Great Lakes, Illinois deserves to be rich...." "..She is so rare..."

San Angelo, Texas United States Member #1097 January 31, 2003 1394 Posts Offline

Posted: October 12, 2006, 2:45 pm - IP Logged

Might I suggest that you use the number frequency data found on most lottery websites. You can then rearrange the list, putting the most frequent numbers at the top and the least frequent numbers on the bottom, or vice versa.

This is made easy by creating a single list of numbers, which is modified after each drawing. In this way you will always have a current list.

Might I also suggest that you consider whether the inventory, ie. the total number of times a certain number has come for the life of the lottery game, or a shorter period, is really useful information.

If you track the first 8 or 10 numbers at the top of your list and the last 8 or 10 numbers on the bottom of the list, you will of course see that numbers do repeat from drawing to drawing. However, it is very difficult to know which of those numbers will be repeated in the next drawing.

Selecting lottery numbers using mathmatical considerations is chancy at best, but to each his own.

Always good to have other selection techniques available.