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Non-Lottery Philosophical Question of the Day

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Posted: October 1, 2006, 7:24 am - IP Logged

 

I debated for some time whether to post this or not.  While it has nothing to do with lotteries directly, I found it interesting and decided to do so.  Then had to decide which forum.  It is a stirring debate for the mind and therefore thought that this was a forum of the mind, more so than the others.  Being it is  non-lottery and it offends anyone, I apologize.  Hopefully you will find it interesting as well.

Philosophical Question of the Day

If a man goes into the forest and pokes a bear with a sharp stick, and the bear kills the man, whose fault is it?

Don’t read this next part until you have made up your mind whether it is the man’s fault or the bear’s fault.

Okay, you may continue.

Now substitute an irrational human being for the bear. The guy with the stick knows he’s dealing with an irrational and potentially violent person, and he pokes him with the stick anyway. Just like the bear, the irrational guy kills the guy who poked him.

Whose fault is it now? Is it the fault of the irrational guy or the fault of the unwise guy who poked him?

Okay, now suppose that the irrational guy is a specific kind of irrational guy – a literal believer in his faith. This is not an insult to the religious because even the Pope endorses the view that faith does not spring from rational thought. And let’s say this particular faith says that if ye poketh me with a sharpeth object, woe unto you, for I shall killeth!

And let’s say the irrational person is completely rational in every way that is not related to his religion. He might even be an engineer or a doctor. But his irrational side is well understood by all. Now the guy with the sharp stick pokes him and gets killed.

Whose fault is it?

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    Posted: October 1, 2006, 8:02 am - IP Logged

     

    I debated for some time whether to post this or not.  While it has nothing to do with lotteries directly, I found it interesting and decided to do so.  Then had to decide which forum.  It is a stirring debate for the mind and therefore thought that this was a forum of the mind, more so than the others.  Being it is  non-lottery and it offends anyone, I apologize.  Hopefully you will find it interesting as well.

    Philosophical Question of the Day

    If a man goes into the forest and pokes a bear with a sharp stick, and the bear kills the man, whose fault is it?

    Don’t read this next part until you have made up your mind whether it is the man’s fault or the bear’s fault.

    Okay, you may continue.

    Now substitute an irrational human being for the bear. The guy with the stick knows he’s dealing with an irrational and potentially violent person, and he pokes him with the stick anyway. Just like the bear, the irrational guy kills the guy who poked him.

    Whose fault is it now? Is it the fault of the irrational guy or the fault of the unwise guy who poked him?

    Okay, now suppose that the irrational guy is a specific kind of irrational guy – a literal believer in his faith. This is not an insult to the religious because even the Pope endorses the view that faith does not spring from rational thought. And let’s say this particular faith says that if ye poketh me with a sharpeth object, woe unto you, for I shall killeth!

    And let’s say the irrational person is completely rational in every way that is not related to his religion. He might even be an engineer or a doctor. But his irrational side is well understood by all. Now the guy with the sharp stick pokes him and gets killed.

    Whose fault is it?

    Killing is killing no matter what the reason or belief.  If you have any faith in anything you know that to kill a fellow human being is not what the rest of us would few as a positive step toward living in this world.

    As far as the bear is concerned, he is doing what comes naturally.  He is protecting himself.  This post talked about faith, the bear is one of God's creatures.  I  do not think we should blame the bear for his behavior, he is not acquainted with rational or irrational behavior, he is a bear.

    However, the man being a liberal, thought he could poke the bear and not have to be responsible for his actions.  He believed it was the bear's fault for being there in the first place and by being there had prevoked his behavior.  The bear unfortunately did not know the difference.  He viewed the man as an easy way to get his next meal without putting forth much effort.  You know he did eat the man.

    The guy who poked the irrational human being did not know that this human was bent on his destruction and most other humans that believed the way he did.  So it would only take a poke to put him in the killing mood.  Instead of poking the irrational guy, he should have gone into a mode of pacification.  He should have given the irrational guy anything he wanted, such as all his worldly possessions, his country, denounced his faith and let him disobey any law he did not feel was just.  Then he should have rewarded him for his behavior.

    Whose fault is it -- everyones! As long as we continue to salute PC (political correctness) we will find outselves being poked from all sides until there is nothing left to give.

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      Posted: October 1, 2006, 8:08 am - IP Logged

      It's best to post non-lottery stuff in one's blog.

       

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        Posted: October 1, 2006, 8:22 am - IP Logged

        Golden Rule: Treat Others as You Want to be Treated!

        The golden rule is best interpreted as saying: "Treat others only in
        ways that you're willing to be treated in the same exact situation." To
        apply it, you'd imagine yourself in the exact place of the other person
        on the receiving end of the action. If you act in a given way toward
        another, and yet are unwilling to be treated that way in the same
        circumstances, then you violate the rule.

        To apply the golden rule adequately, we need knowledge and imagination.
        We need to know what effect our actions have on the lives of others.
        And we need to be able to imagine ourselves, vividly and accurately, in
        the other person's place on the receiving end of the action. With
        knowledge, imagination, and the golden rule, we can progress far in our
        moral thinking.

        The golden rule is best seen as a consistency principle. It doesn't
        replace regular moral norms. It isn't an infallible guide on which
        actions are right or wrong; it doesn't give all the answers. It only
        prescribes consistency - that we not have our actions (toward another)
        be out of harmony with our desires (toward a reversed situation action).
        It tests our moral coherence. If we violate the golden rule, then we're
        violating the spirit of fairness and concern that lie at the heart of
        morality.

        The golden rule, with roots in a wide range of world cultures, is well
        suited to be a standard to which different cultures could appeal in
        resolving conflicts. As the world becomes more and more a single
        interacting global community, the need for such a common standard is
        becoming more urgent.

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          Posted: October 1, 2006, 10:57 am - IP Logged

          It's best to post non-lottery stuff in one's blog.

          OK.  If anything else comes along - it will be there.

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            Posted: October 1, 2006, 6:53 pm - IP Logged

            Any reaction or consequence of the stick poker is the fault of the stick poker because had he not poked with the stick the subsequent reaction would not have happened.  When he poked with the stick he was creating the future.

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