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Oct 3, 2006, 12:35 pm

This is a pick6, 1-42 RnG sample i am describing...The idea is to simulate what a pick6, 1-42 game would do (Ga Win For life), you could also use it for pick6, 1-44 game, since is only 2 extra numbers, all you have to do is adjust it...
I will like to beging by saying that sum total is all the numbers in a combination added, as some of you may already know...
I was studying a 150 draw RnG sample of pick6, 1-42 and i found a pattern with the sum totals. I call them sum totals (and i think that's what it is called, sum something)..The following is what i was able to deduct and infer from the sample...I notice that the Sum totals will not repeat for 66 draws...Out of the 150 draws, 20% of the time the sum totals were below 100..and 80% of the time they were above 100 and below 186...186 was the highest sum point of the sum totals on that 150 RnG sample draw..If you take 100 as your starting point and subtract the number of time the Sum totals didn't repeat (66) minus the highest sum total in the sample that should be 86 - 66 = 20...Remember 80% of the combinations were above 100 and below 186..What would you do if you knew that the next combination to play on this RNG sample was going to have one of those 20 Sum totals...If you knew that you would make each of your combinations have those 20 sum totals..This is wonderful because it means that all you have to do is look at a pick6, 1-42 game history and look at let's say 100 history draws..YOu would then notice that going back, backwards, a good portion of the sum totals don't repeat, it could be 50, 66, 70, etc, all you have to do is find the highest point of the sum totals and subtract it from the number of sum totals that don't repeat...But there is always the 20% of whatever number chance that the next sum total is going to be below 100...Even though this is RnG i believe and speculate that a real pick6, 1-42 lotto would behave similar or somehow similar...The drawbacks is that if you tailor your combinations to have those 20 sum totals that theoretically should play next, your combinations will have very few if any 5/6 and 4/6 matches. You would be theoretically going for the winning combination and not the second prize matches...The question that you have to ask yourself now is: HOw many combinations does each of the 20 left back sum totals are they? For example if the sum total 146 is one of those 20 sum totals you are looking for, how many combinations will have 146 as sum total? There could be 10 or 50 i don't know nor i have a way of knowing because i got rid of my lottery softwares in an act of discouragement and vexation...(i was feeling down that week and thought the lottery was worthless pursuing...Regret doing it)..But the point is that the hard work of trying to find which one is going to be the next winning combination, is cut out/off for you...
Even though theoretically speaking the biggest sum total is 237 (37+38+39+40+41+42), the likelyhood of that particular combination or any similar to it playing is so remote...In fact out of the 150 sample, the sum total 186 was the highest sum total played..
One point now is would there be softwares that can narrow down to 1 sum total that you like (the specific sum total that you like)... I think expert lotto can do it for i corresponded with the company and they told me that expert lotto could somewhat do it.....I wander if other lottery software can do it....
If you go forward in increments of 1 and you look back 66 draws or whatever draws you will notice that the sum totals do not repeat...I don't know about pick6 1-49 games because this sample was for pick6, 1-42 games...
I am going to study the Sum totals of Ga's Win For life to see...I should behave somewhat like the RnG sample...But i speculate that Actual games, the number of combinations below 100 will be greaters because i am looking at the machine and the way it works, and the machine will have more balls huddling together. It behaves different than a RnG...Whatever results i see on the Ga's Win for Life i'll post them here...
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SUMS.EXE calculates the number of combinations that add-up to a sum-total. It also calculates the sums of each draw in lottery files, plus average and std. deviation. You can generate such combinations and save them. The program creates summary reports for the game: every sum-total and its amount of combinations.
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Oct 3, 2006, 1:32 pm

where can i find SUMS.EXE Raven62?
I looked at the Ga's Win for Life and unfortunately it has only 62 draws...I found 7 repetitions but i will have to take it home and study them and come back a couple of days and post what i find (i am at the library)...
MY question is the following: Once i get to find all the combinations that pertain to a specific sum totals and once i gather a group of sum totals can i like arrange them in a way that will give me multiple 5/6 matches without having the jeapardize the sum totals? I don't know if is possible that's why i am asking, i would have to have a lotto software and that wouldn't be until 3 months from now...

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What we need is a software that can take whatever group of sum totals that should play next whether is 20, 15, 25 and and wheel the numbers creating a wheel that will give you several 5/6 matches, like 25, 5/6 matches withouth jeapordizing the specific sum totals...You can go for the specific winning combination but it will mean more combinations plus if you use a 5/6 matches you can always try it the following day..And literally you can try it the following they since is certain to get it right the following day... (i don't know is just my opinion)...
When doing the experiment i got it correct over and over (sum totals, not combinations)..There were few instances when i was expecting a sum total from a group of sum totals to play and what play had already played..There were few instances when i went 5 draws without getting the sum totals correct but that was it, the rest of the time i'll get it correct...Of course there is always the 20% chance possibility that the sum total is going to be below 100...
And you can always tailor your wheel with even over odd ratio and high over low ratios...YOu can make your wheel be like that..This should cut down on the number of combinations the each sum totals will have and eventually the group of sum totals you chose...
I can help but to think that if i could find this pattern on a RnG, a supercomputer could do too...
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Oct 4, 2006, 1:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on Oct 3, 2006
where can i find SUMS.EXE Raven62?
I looked at the Ga's Win for Life and unfortunately it has only 62 draws...I found 7 repetitions but i will have to take it home and study them and come back a couple of days and post what i find (i am at the library)...
MY question is the following: Once i get to find all the combinations that pertain to a specific sum totals and once i gather a group of sum totals can i like arrange them in a way that will give me multiple 5/6 matches without having the jeapardize the sum totals? I don't know if is possible that's why i am asking, i would have to have a lotto software and that wouldn't be until 3 months from now...

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Oct 5, 2006, 6:23 pm

What you don't want to do is apply filters to a sum totals because it will otherwise interfere with the guarantee jackpot...Don't know if is possible but if you can build a lotto software that can build a wheel from the ground up using as a constraint the sum totals and the even over odd and high over low ratio on your wheel, then it should be good...If you ask a software to give you all the combinations of 146 for example it will do so extensively i believe and it will give you a full potent array of combinations, but what you want is to have your wheel tailored to certain specification using certain constraints as a backbone (an abbreviated wheel that will have as a constraint the sum totals and the odd/even, high/low ratio (...And a lotto software that can do this constantly, every day...YOu would need to build your wheel, everyday...That's what is needed..And i don't think there is a software that can do it (i mean i don't know there could be, but the way i am imagining it i don't know, nor will i know until i start experimenting and that will be, if God wishes 2 or 3 months from now)...
What you don't want is to wheel a wheel and then apply filters because it will mess up the guarantee of the sum totals...What you don't want also is to get the sum totals and then apply filters because this too will mess up the guarantee....maybe i am wrong but this is i think the way to do it...
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Oct 5, 2006, 7:22 pm

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"If let's say 15 combinations belong to each of the group of sum totals, let's say 20 you could literally win the lottery 3 times a week (assuming it plays every day) or if it plays twice a week, you could hit it twice a month, using this tactic/technique......" And if that's the case i should get pay for this but i wouldn't...

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Oct 5, 2006, 7:48 pm

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on Oct 5, 2006
statement:
"If let's say 15 combinations belong to each of the group of sum totals, let's say 20 you could literally win the lottery 3 times a week (assuming it plays every day) or if it plays twice a week, you could hit it twice a month, using this tactic/technique......" And if that's the case i should get pay for this but i wouldn't...

"..Laura Simpson from Great Lakes, illinois, deserves to be rich...". "She is so rare..."

That would be nice, but a 5/40 Game with a Sum=102 has 10,395 Combinations, and Sum=103 has 10,395 Combinations, so just between those 2 Sums you have 20,790 Combinations to Select from.
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Jee, i hate those stats...IF only...But the good news is that those are full potent combinations (if you want to think about them as wheels), I was talking more about an custom build Abbreviated combinations with let's say 20, 4/5 combinations..Something that says, if the numbers fall in the sum total group, you should end up with 20, 4/5 combinations and perhaps the winning combination, and you wouldn't have to worry about it since you can try, and get it right, the following day but don't know if is possible because no one has ever tried it that way...I think is possible but we will have to change completely the way we combined the numbers to do wheels...Speculating, i say that with the odd over even and the high over low specification and the custom abbreviated wheel specification, that should narrow the total amount extensively, how much i don't know...It all comes down to building a custom abbreviated wheel with sum totals as a constraint from the ground up...
Also i just realize that a pick5 game 5/40 whose sum total is 102 has 10,395 because that's using all 40 possible numbers, but what we want is 30 size numbers wheel...We are not using all 40 numbers but instead we are going to make our wheel be size 30, and that should reduce the number extensively too, and i say that it should be like around (speculating again) 2,500 total combinations that would have sum total of 103, if we are lucky perhaps less, but this means that you are going to hit the lottery less...
I would need to know how many combinations does a pick4, 1-44 or pick4, 1-33 would have (FL mega money or Kentucky CashBall)...I think it should have less than a pick5, 1-40...If you add this to what we're doing the total number of combinations that should have sum total of 102 shouldn't be 10,395 but i'll say more like 7,000 thus reducing the cost...But it will mean that you can't play any lotto you wish, you will have to settle with Tx two steps, KY cashball and Fl Mega money...But we have yet to see...Unfortunately i don't have a software that i could find out and do experiments..

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Oct 9, 2006, 7:39 pm

6/42

Sum Frequency Chart

Total possibilities - 5,245,786.

Sum	Frequency	Sum	Frequency	Sum	Frequency	Sum	Frequency	Sum	Frequency	Sum	Frequency

21	1	58	2701	94	35283	130	73223	166	32297	202	2172
22	1	59	3007	95	36822	131	73120	167	30854	203	1945
23	2	60	3327	96	38339	132	72883	168	29403	204	1729
24	3	61	3685	97	39902	133	72608	169	28011	205	1540
25	5	62	4058	98	41434	134	72201	170	26617	206	1360
26	7	63	4475	99	43012	135	71765	171	25289	207	1206
27	11	64	4906	100	44546	136	71194	172	23960	208	1057
28	14	65	5385	101	46120	137	70597	173	22698	209	931
29	20	66	5882	102	47646	138	69875	174	21444	210	811
30	26	67	6427	103	49200	139	69125	175	20254	211	709
31	35	68	6991	104	50698	140	68256	176	19076	212	612
32	44	69	7610	105	52223	141	67370	177	17966	213	532
33	58	70	8245	106	53677	142	66364	178	16866	214	454
34	71	71	8938	107	55151	143	65346	179	15834	215	391
35	90	72	9651	108	56551	144	64222	180	14819	216	331
36	110	73	10421	109	57959	145	63086	181	13867	217	282
37	136	74	11211	110	59284	146	61851	182	12933	218	235
38	163	75	12064	111	60616	147	60616	183	12064	219	199
39	199	76	12933	112	61851	148	59284	184	11211	220	163
40	235	77	13867	113	63086	149	57959	185	10421	221	136
41	282	78	14819	114	64222	150	56551	186	9651	222	110
42	331	79	15834	115	65346	151	55151	187	8938	223	90
43	391	80	16866	116	66364	152	53677	188	8245	224	71
44	454	81	17966	117	67370	153	52223	189	7610	225	58
45	532	82	19076	118	68256	154	50698	190	6991	226	44
46	612	83	20254	119	69125	155	49200	191	6427	227	35
47	709	84	21444	120	69875	156	47646	192	5882	228	26
48	811	85	22698	121	70597	157	46120	193	5385	229	20
49	931	86	23960	122	71194	158	44546	194	4906	230	14
50	1057	87	25289	123	71765	159	43012	195	4475	231	11
51	1206	88	26617	124	72201	160	41434	196	4058	232	7
52	1360	89	28011	125	72608	161	39902	197	3685	233	5
53	1540	90	29403	126	72883	162	38339	198	3327	234	3
54	1729	91	30854	127	73120	163	36822	199	3007	235	2
55	1945	92	32297	128	73223	164	35283	200	2701	236	1
56	2172	93	33800	129	73294	165	33800	201	2432	237	1
57	2432

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Oct 10, 2006, 11:43 am

johnph77
Can you explain the chart please? I see the chart but like the frequencies, were the frequencies from a RnG that will continuously draw numbers 'till infinity? and when you say possibilities are 5,245,786 what do you mean? How did you drew that deduction?
Yeah the 6/42 game is hard, it got too many combinations...I am going to try and see if there is a way to beat it...Same thing with 6/49....But i say that if there is a way to beat the 6/49 game it will not be affordable to us, but more affluent individuals...Anyways i am going to try and see....

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Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on Oct 10, 2006
johnph77
Can you explain the chart please? I see the chart but like the frequencies, were the frequencies from a RnG that will continuously draw numbers 'till infinity? and when you say possibilities are 5,245,786 what do you mean? How did you drew that deduction?
Yeah the 6/42 game is hard, it got too many combinations...I am going to try and see if there is a way to beat it...Same thing with 6/49....But i say that if there is a way to beat the 6/49 game it will not be affordable to us, but more affluent individuals...Anyways i am going to try and see....

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pumpi76 -
Total possibilities are from the formula (42!-36!)/(6!), which yields the total number of possible draws in a 6/42 lottery. Broken down it looks like this:
(42x41x40x39x38x37)/(1x2x3x4x5x6)
I have a chart on my website detailing sum frequencies for every lottery matrix from 2/2 to 7/100. During the course of building this page I found a way to simplify its construction by using mathematical formulas to yield the numbers instead of having to hand-enter the results of programs. That just simplified the construction of the page. All numbers have since been verified by VBasic, QBasic and/or PowerBasic programming. Those programs yield all possible combinations, sum the numbers, then add 1 (one) to the appropriate field. I still have the printouts.....
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Oct 17, 2006, 7:14 pm

I thought i add this since is very important to the post...Is a Pm i corresponded with raven62....This is very important to the post...Remember the sum 84 with 618 combinations is using all 33 numbers, but if you use less and let the size of your wheel be smaller, perhaps 25 or 23 then the total number of combinations SHOULD BE LESS....Same thing goes for Pick4 1-44 Sum=84 Combinations=2075 That's using all 44 numbers but if you use less like 30 or 25 the total number should be way less than 2075, a lot less, like way more than half..
Raven do you think you could tell me
how many combinations does a pick4, 1-44 or pick4, 1-33 with a sum of 84 would have (I am thinking of FL mega money or Kentucky CashBall)...since i don't have a software...

i will greatly appreciate it..
thanks..

Pick4 1-33 Sum=84 Combinations=618

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Drawings Sum Root Average StdDev AvgDev AvgDel
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Medians: 84 3 21.00 8.25 7.00 7.00
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Pick4 1-44 Sum=84 Combinations=2075

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Drawings Sum Root Average StdDev AvgDev AvgDel
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Medians: 84 3 21.00 11.94 10.00 10.33
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