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Posted: October 12, 2006, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

This is very interesting...I just moved to Ft. Mill, SC and there is the Carolina Cash 5 game there (5/38). Would this be something I could use? I am determined to hit that sonofabich sometime!

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    This is very interesting...I just moved to Ft. Mill, SC and there is the Carolina Cash 5 game there (5/38). Would this be something I could use? I am determined to hit that sonofabich sometime!

    (about pick5)...It uses the trees...Is killing us one at a time, like a hunter...

     

     from movie Predator 1...

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      (about pick5)...It uses the trees...Is killing us one at a time, like a hunter...

       

       from movie Predator 1...

      In baby talk.. what does this mean?

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        For some reason i've compared the lottery, specially the ones hard to win with the Alien in the movie Predator 1...For example i do compare my state Keno with the movie Predator because in the movie you can't see the predator, it is invisible, and i compare it with the patterns that Keno gives in my state, which are invisible because you can't any pattern...Also the alien would feed everynight, just the same way Keno feeds on people everytime it takes people's money...Except that the keno in my state plays every 4 minutes making it even more dangerous...That's all, a comparison between the game and an alien from a movie...If you ever get a chance I encourage you to see the movie, with arnold sschaswanegger the now governor of CA...

        is more like a quote to make you chuckle...

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          Posted: October 13, 2006, 6:55 pm - IP Logged

          TN doesn't have KENO.. 

          Every 4 minutes.. wow.. No time to really do any figuring.. They must think one would win often if given enough time between draws to set up a pattern..

           

          With lots of work.. (no playing around).. one can get that game figured down.. How much history does GA have?  Can you find history for the game?

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            TN doesn't have KENO.. 

            Every 4 minutes.. wow.. No time to really do any figuring.. They must think one would win often if given enough time between draws to set up a pattern..

             

            With lots of work.. (no playing around).. one can get that game figured down.. How much history does GA have?  Can you find history for the game?

            MD. has the KENO. 10/20/80 is how they refer to this game on LP. Pick up to ten, twenty are drawn, and the field is 80 numbers, every 3minutes in MD.  Trying to beat it is tough, because of the sheer amount of data, you can look back on-line but there are 20 draws per hour, 100 every five hours.  There is at MDLOTTERY.COM the keno draws being shown like 5 or 6 games back from the current drawing http://webkeno1.msla.state.md.us/keno/flashpage.aspx. What I do is, watch 5 to 6 games because I can't wait to play any longer, if I'm there, put in two regular sets for 10 games, and during the 10 games try to note any trends towards particular numbers, and play those in combinations.  You have to be fast.  Getting your bets placed, is a direct function of the efficiency of the of the establishment providing the KENO game. If the place your playing is into it, no problem; if they are not into it, it ain't nearly as fun. So you go to a place that has competent operators and understand bigger tips come with more hits. I tip well and share when I hit.  I play 5-spots $1.00 OR $2.00 BETS, $1.00 PAYS 3 0F 5 $2.00, 4 OF 5 pays $15.00, 5 OF 5 PAYS $300.00. 5 OF 5 $2.00 PAYS $600.00 no tax forms needed and you collect it right there.

            Now,  they have RACETRAX in MD. Unbelievable, it is an on-line computer generated horse race every 6 minutes! Win, place, show, quinellas, trifectas with odds and all.  The race yields 1st., 2nd. and 3rd. winners from 12 horses. so you are essentially playing pick three with twelve numbers.  The argument the other night was: KENO, RACETRAX Which game has better overall odds?  I think the KENO is better because numbers are numbers, others say the RACETRAX because you can work with pre-race odds, and handicapping.  I certainly don't have the concentration needed to look at the monitor for extended periods of time to handicap computer generated horses.  I was observing the people playing, and they were totally fixated on the horses, not a whole lot of socializing going on, with the exception of the next race!  LOL jarasan

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              Posted: October 18, 2006, 3:40 am - IP Logged

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              Jarasan,

              >>>The argument the other night was: KENO, RACETRAX Which game has better overall odds?<<<

              Let's find out! If you can get the final odds for each horse in the race, for say three races, unless the game has the 12 same odds listed for every race, and they just change the number of the horse assigned to each odds since it is supposedly a fixed odds game, then of course you would just need that one set of odds. The same could be done for the 66 quinella combinations too, if you can get them, as the 1,320 trifecta combos if listed would probably be too hard.

              I have a spreadsheet, which I originally designed to calculate the takeout for greyhound tracks, since most don't publish them. So, then we can easily see how much of an edge the location you mentioned has, and could compare it with other outlets to see how they each set the machine and who offers the best return. Finally, we can then compare this with the payout/odds for the keno game.

              Not trying to change the thread topic, but your post made this odds junkie curious. If anyone is interested in discussing, a newone could be started, maybe even in the mathematics sectionScared.

              Good Luck!   

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                Idea

                Jarasan,

                >>>The argument the other night was: KENO, RACETRAX Which game has better overall odds?<<<

                Let's find out! If you can get the final odds for each horse in the race, for say three races, unless the game has the 12 same odds listed for every race, and they just change the number of the horse assigned to each odds since it is supposedly a fixed odds game, then of course you would just need that one set of odds. The same could be done for the 66 quinella combinations too, if you can get them, as the 1,320 trifecta combos if listed would probably be too hard.

                I have a spreadsheet, which I originally designed to calculate the takeout for greyhound tracks, since most don't publish them. So, then we can easily see how much of an edge the location you mentioned has, and could compare it with other outlets to see how they each set the machine and who offers the best return. Finally, we can then compare this with the payout/odds for the keno game.

                Not trying to change the thread topic, but your post made this odds junkie curious. If anyone is interested in discussing, a newone could be started, maybe even in the mathematics sectionScared.

                Good Luck!   

                Pale Rider

                >>>>So, then we can easily see how much of an edge the location you mentioned has, and could compare it with other outlets to see how they each set the machine and who offers the best return.<<<

                 This game is simulcast across the state so everybody is looking at the same race, all locations are looking at the same game. I agree this discussion should go to another thread. LOL jarasan US Flag

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                  Has anyone used the ideas of "5/39 Schooling" for picking numbers for Ohio Rolling Cash5?  During the last couple of weeks, I've been watching the prediction board for RC5 winners and I've seen PadawanLotto who uses Expert Lotto, myself who uses my own system and geos*5666.

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                    Posted: October 21, 2006, 1:26 am - IP Logged

                    Now that Ohio Rolling Cash5 has rolled to $279,000 it time to test those theories.

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                      I've decided to invest $20 in RC5 tickets today using my system which works for for both pick5 and pick6 games but adjust for the number pool size  and the recent draw history so I use it for both the RC5 5/39 and MM 5/56 +1/46 games played here in Ohio.

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                        How about sharing your system RJOh?

                         

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                          Has anyone used the ideas of "5/39 Schooling" for picking numbers for Ohio Rolling Cash5?  During the last couple of weeks, I've been watching the prediction board for RC5 winners and I've seen PadawanLotto who uses Expert Lotto, myself who uses my own system and geos*5666.

                           Draw Date  Results 
                          Fri, Oct 20, 200617-18-21-34-39    03oeo2eo
                          Thu, Oct 19, 200612-16-20-25-39    1e2ee2oo
                          Wed, Oct 18, 200608-11-16-21-33    3eoe1o1o
                          Tue, Oct 17, 200611-13-28-35-38    2oo03eoe
                          Mon, Oct 16, 200602-15-19-23-36    1e2oo2oe
                          Sat, Oct 14, 200612-22-26-30-35    1e1e3eeo
                          Fri, Oct 13, 200612-19-22-23-30    1e2oe2oe
                          Thu, Oct 12, 200601-17-26-28-34    1o2oe2ee
                          Wed, Oct 11, 200603-13-15-24-33    2oo1o2eo
                          Tue, Oct 10, 200605-08-21-22-35    2oo2oe1o
                          Mon, Oct 9, 200605-07-13-21-25    3ooo1o1o
                          Sat, Oct 7, 2006

                          10-21-27-34-39    1e1o3oeo

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                             Draw Date  Results 
                            Fri, Oct 20, 200617-18-21-34-39    03oeo2eo
                            Thu, Oct 19, 200612-16-20-25-39    1e2ee2oo
                            Wed, Oct 18, 200608-11-16-21-33    3eoe1o1o
                            Tue, Oct 17, 200611-13-28-35-38    2oo03eoe
                            Mon, Oct 16, 200602-15-19-23-36    1e2oo2oe
                            Sat, Oct 14, 200612-22-26-30-35    1e1e3eeo
                            Fri, Oct 13, 200612-19-22-23-30    1e2oe2oe
                            Thu, Oct 12, 200601-17-26-28-34    1o2oe2ee
                            Wed, Oct 11, 200603-13-15-24-33    2oo1o2eo
                            Tue, Oct 10, 200605-08-21-22-35    2oo2oe1o
                            Mon, Oct 9, 200605-07-13-21-25    3ooo1o1o
                            Sat, Oct 7, 2006

                            10-21-27-34-39    1e1o3oeo

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                            27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39

                             

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                              How about sharing your system RJOh?

                              LottoVanatage,

                              In spite of the fact that my system is a work in progress I have shared it in threads in the system and math forums.  Basically it looks at the profile of previous winning numbers using letters. The letters represent the most recent drawings in which each number has hit and the numbers of hits at the time.  For example every combination is compared with previous drawings in the following manner.

                                        10/20/06  17 18 21 34 39       
                              ____________________________________________________
                                    1  10/19/06  12 16 20 25 39        1*
                                    1 ----------------------------------------
                                2      2  10/18/06  08 11 16 21 33        1*
                                    2 ----------------------------------------
                                    4  10/12/06  01 17 26 28 34        2*
                                    4 ----------------------------------------
                                9       5  10/10/06  05 08 21 22 35        1
                                10     6  10/09/06  05 07 13 21 25        1
                                11     9  10/07/06  10 21 27 34 39        3
                                13    10  10/05/06  08 13 17 25 32        1
                                14    12  10/04/06  21 26 29 30 34        2
                                16    13  10/02/06  03 07 12 21 27        1
                                19    14  09/28/06  08 18 23 25 38        1*
                                    5 ----------------------------------------
                                    1/ 1    2/ 2    7/   7/ 4  19/14             ABGGS/ABCDN

                              The last line gives me the profile of the winning combinations.  ABC is a popular sequence in the combination profile so I pick combinations with that sequence in their profiles.  RC5 have 640 drawing so I pick a sequence of letters that cover 200-300 of those combinations  For RC5 I get 5-6 combinations for each time I choose to repeat the numbers.  I'll get 20 combinations if I used all the number three times.  I have calculated that there are less 30,000 combinations fitting this profile so my odds of winning is 1:30,000 thirty to fifty percent of the time rather than 1:575,757 one hundred percent of the time.  Check my posts in the the other threads if you want to know more.

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