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National lottery, or 3d major game?

Topic closed. 11 replies. Last post 10 years ago by Just6ntlc.

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Which would you prefer?

Nat'l game, ending MM & PB [ 1 ]  [6.67%]
Nat'l game, preserving MM & PB [ 4 ]  [26.67%]
THREE major multi-state games [ 7 ]  [46.67%]
No guess [ 3 ]  [20.00%]
Total Valid Votes [ 15 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 5 ]  

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Posted: November 16, 2006, 3:33 pm - IP Logged

From time to time, there has been talk of a national lottery. This subject has just been brought up again. Whether it would supplement or replace Mega Millions and Powerball is anyone's guess.

I would prefer that California, NY, and Texas break away from MM and form the country's third major lottery jackpot game. Once Florida finally approves a multi-state game, it should go with MM (even though players in south Florida would still have to travel hundreds of miles to play PB).

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    Posted: November 17, 2006, 10:20 am - IP Logged

    I voted for a 3rd nation wide game,  I dont want to loose the Powerball or

    Mega Millions but if we had a 3rd nation wide game that the players, the people

    had a say so in the prize payouts that would cause most of the players to

    gravitate to the new game with solid 2nd and 3rd place prize payouts.  As a result

    Powerball and Mega Millions would see their ticket sales decline so they would

    have to get on the same page or become extinct at some point.  The people should

    have more power like voting

    Men Lie Women Lie Numbers Dont

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      Posted: November 17, 2006, 1:25 pm - IP Logged

      How about:

       

      5)  NONE OF THE ABOVE - LEAVE IT ALONE. 

       

      CCHS13 - nice dream, but it won't happen.  Anything involving money that the gov't gets in on (if they did) can't be good, and the players will

      NEVER be able to dictate how to divvy up the pots, are you crazy ? 

      If PB or MM could get into all 50 states, don't you think they would ?   It's not from a lack of trying. 

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        Posted: November 17, 2006, 1:56 pm - IP Logged

        How about:

         

        5)  NONE OF THE ABOVE - LEAVE IT ALONE. 

         

        CCHS13 - nice dream, but it won't happen.  Anything involving money that the gov't gets in on (if they did) can't be good, and the players will

        NEVER be able to dictate how to divvy up the pots, are you crazy ? 

        If PB or MM could get into all 50 states, don't you think they would ?   It's not from a lack of trying. 

        I agree it is a dream,  but at the end of the day the people, the players

        still have the power,  we just are not exercising it.  If it wasnt for boycotting

        or striking alot of things would not have gotten changed.  If their ticket sales

        took a dramatic decrease then something would have to give.  Competition

        is best for the consumer,  Powerball and MM have somewhat of a monopoly

        right now.  They are not really competing with each other becasue they are

        in different states so what they say goes.

        Men Lie Women Lie Numbers Dont

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          Posted: November 17, 2006, 11:32 pm - IP Logged

          Not entirely true. MM and PB are in competion with each other to make their game available in states without either, and, to a lesser extent, replace the other in states where one of them is currently played. Witness the competition between the two when CA decided that a multi-state lottery was legal, and the short amount of time between MM's and PB's last matrix changes. They have their eyes on each other, to be sure.

          Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

          Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

           =^.^=

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            Posted: November 18, 2006, 12:46 pm - IP Logged

            I agree it is a dream,  but at the end of the day the people, the players

            still have the power,  we just are not exercising it.  If it wasnt for boycotting

            or striking alot of things would not have gotten changed.  If their ticket sales

            took a dramatic decrease then something would have to give.  Competition

            is best for the consumer,  Powerball and MM have somewhat of a monopoly

            right now.  They are not really competing with each other becasue they are

            in different states so what they say goes.

            I meant it's a dream if you think gov't would get involved and not screw it up.

             

            As far as striking, boycotting, or effecting change, there' a bit of a difference between protesting nuclear facilities or toxic waste dumps as opposed to something that, in all honesty, amounts to a silly game.

            I don't quite understand your thinking behind the competition thing, I rather doubt they would change to odds or the purses much to benefit us, the players.  Maybe a little, but not much.

             

            You really need to keep in mind 98% of all lottery plays are more-or-less spur-of-the-moment purchases in lieu of getting change back after buying a pack of smokes, a 12-pack, or filing up with gas, and those players don't really care too much (or even know what) the odds are.

            (and I DO mean 98% - ask 100 people on the street that buy tickets what the odds are, or what the payout is, 98 won't really know) 


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              Posted: November 20, 2006, 10:02 am - IP Logged

              I meant it's a dream if you think gov't would get involved and not screw it up.

               

              As far as striking, boycotting, or effecting change, there' a bit of a difference between protesting nuclear facilities or toxic waste dumps as opposed to something that, in all honesty, amounts to a silly game.

              I don't quite understand your thinking behind the competition thing, I rather doubt they would change to odds or the purses much to benefit us, the players.  Maybe a little, but not much.

               

              You really need to keep in mind 98% of all lottery plays are more-or-less spur-of-the-moment purchases in lieu of getting change back after buying a pack of smokes, a 12-pack, or filing up with gas, and those players don't really care too much (or even know what) the odds are.

              (and I DO mean 98% - ask 100 people on the street that buy tickets what the odds are, or what the payout is, 98 won't really know) 

              I live in NY state. It sure seems like 98% of NY Lotto players don't care that the payout (38%-40%) is so low. Lottery players need to use their brains BEFORE they play.

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                Posted: November 21, 2006, 1:48 pm - IP Logged

                They need to fix that useless game known as megamillions. Unfortunely I don't think players have any power at all. In fact I don't even think the people running lotteries care what the sales are either. At least when games get privatized they will start caring instead of using their lottery job as a stepping stone to another job.

                Why have three broken lotteries when we could have one or two that actually work. Euromillions now holds the top two jackpots of the world and both were set this year. That's an example of a lottery that works. It's also an example of a lottery where the ticket price isn't $1.

                If the Senate and House actually want to help state lotteries they could make the winnings tax exempt like every where else in the world. 

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                  Posted: November 21, 2006, 3:05 pm - IP Logged

                  They need to fix that useless game known as megamillions. Unfortunely I don't think players have any power at all. In fact I don't even think the people running lotteries care what the sales are either. At least when games get privatized they will start caring instead of using their lottery job as a stepping stone to another job.

                  Why have three broken lotteries when we could have one or two that actually work. Euromillions now holds the top two jackpots of the world and both were set this year. That's an example of a lottery that works. It's also an example of a lottery where the ticket price isn't $1.

                  If the Senate and House actually want to help state lotteries they could make the winnings tax exempt like every where else in the world. 


                  Why is MM useless, and why do you think that Euromillions is a lottery that works?  Euromillions having the top two prize amounts is much more a function of chance than anything else. With odds of 76 million to one and tickets that cost $2.57 we should expect them to collect $196 million for every jackpot winning ticket. Compare that to MM where the odds are 176 million to one, but tickets only cost $1. For only $2.32 you coud have Euromillions odds playing MM, and it's basically the same game except for the tax issues. Of course the tax issues are also the same if you're a US resident or citizen, because you'd pay taxes on winnings in either game.

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                    Posted: November 21, 2006, 6:23 pm - IP Logged

                    "None of the above"

                     

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                      Posted: November 25, 2006, 3:55 pm - IP Logged

                      If we did, NONE OF US would play at all.


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                        Posted: November 26, 2006, 2:51 pm - IP Logged

                        My vote is for national lottery keeping PB and MM.