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Posted: November 17, 2006, 2:41 pm - IP Logged

Hi,

  After frequenting the Lottery Post for some time now, it appears nobody has really cracked a good system to beat the lottery. Some ideas get recyled countless times, mathematicians say our is the only way...and it goes on and on.

  What, if anything, has helped you win more?

  What, if anything, is the most useful element in any would be winning system?

  Have any of us really learned anything here to create a winning system?

Any thoughts are welcome.

You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

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    Yes a system does exist! I have purchased several lottery software packages, and tried most of the strategies posted here (at least the ones I understand), and have been trying for over six months to nail my first Pick-3 straight, all to no avail. Tonight, after reading a post by Floridian, I grabbed a deck of cards, shuffled them, cut the deck, and drew the top three cards and played them "straight/box" and NAILED my first straight!!!!! I realize that this is pure luck, but it worked better than anything I've tried so far Hyper.

     

    Shawn

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      Posted: November 18, 2006, 8:00 am - IP Logged

      Yes a system does exist! I have purchased several lottery software packages, and tried most of the strategies posted here (at least the ones I understand), and have been trying for over six months to nail my first Pick-3 straight, all to no avail. Tonight, after reading a post by Floridian, I grabbed a deck of cards, shuffled them, cut the deck, and drew the top three cards and played them "straight/box" and NAILED my first straight!!!!! I realize that this is pure luck, but it worked better than anything I've tried so far Hyper.

       

      Shawn

      Hi Shawn;

      Interesting way to pick your lottery numbers.... but as you can see here as well you are using your psychic intuition here.

      In which it is all fine..... when we all here at the LP, go to work using what we all feel what we believe that our system is thee greatest, (and it is) we tap into our psychic intuition and this is what gives us what we all are looking for.

      Thee almighty WIN!

      Your way is a helluva lot more simpler and I hope that I did not discourage you in any way or form to stop. I too will look into this method and to tell you the truth, I had thought of using this method for along time now, but decided to look online for someones else method.

      Well my friend keep up the good work and I wish you many blessings and win, win, win.........

      Maverick2842

      Thank you and have a prosperous day!

      Maverick2842.......out!Party

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        Posted: November 18, 2006, 12:59 pm - IP Logged

        On the pick 3 the question is not if you can get the winning number, but In how many numbers played can you get it, How often and Will you make a profit both in short and long terms?

        In other words, Will the system be profitable?

        Because of course you can win, but Can you make a profit? 

        Too bad that people just can't work together for so many bad reasons, so we just have to crack the games alone, at least some of us are learning how. 

        EXCALIBUR is no more that "Handle" is dead, gone.
        Maybe sometime in the future I might come back as LANTERN again, but maybe not, if I don't come back as LANTERN in the future then I won't come back at all, but as I said there is no more EXCALIBUR.

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          Posted: November 18, 2006, 1:07 pm - IP Logged

          I have been watching a handfull of predictors here at LP, including myself and when we post the same or almost the same picks for the pick 4 games, i have seen that those picks are best to play.

          mazk, CalifDude(JD), angelm, sfilippo, lotterybraker and last but not least, that other guy/gal i forgot to mention here. Wink

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            Posted: November 18, 2006, 1:30 pm - IP Logged

            Great thread, have been pondering some of the same questions myself.

            Here is just a thought of mine.

            Print out all your state's past results for the game you are interested in. Now think about what you are holding in your hand. A lottery system that's already been written.

            Each state, each set of unique drawings, each a different lottery system.

            The "system" is writing itself each day after every drawing.

            Instead of forcing "our" systems to comply with it, why don't we study harder what is already there?

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              Posted: November 18, 2006, 1:58 pm - IP Logged

              Any thoughts are welcome.

              Who needs systems

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                Posted: November 18, 2006, 3:05 pm - IP Logged

                As EXCALIBUR suggested, it's not whether your system can win but the number of combinations that it has to pick before it picks a winner, especially with pick3 games.  With jackpot games, your odds of winning something is usually better than 1:100 but the payoff is usually one or two dollars, while many pick5 games pay something 1:10 times, usually a dollar.

                I am looking for a system that offers the most for the amount spent, I can't afford to spend a lot so getting lucky has to be a factor.  Does that system have every possible number at least once or maybe only the most active numbers or a combinations of other factors?  Does it avoid combinations that have come up before or strings of adjacent numbers or numbers confined to a particular group?

                I don't know, I'm still looking. 

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: November 19, 2006, 1:39 am - IP Logged

                  Good thread. I only play pick-5 so I can't speak about pick-3 games, but I agree with what lottolaughs said about each game being unique. After reading about all of the different systems, I still find my way the best (but I'm still looking for the "better one".) What works best in my case, is ruling out all numbers that "won't come up". I've been thinking about starting a thread on this idea, but essentially it comes down to the question, "which is easier to pick the winning number or the losing numbers?" The answer, just in case you didn't know, is the losing numbers. Soooo... toss em out. It sounds incredibly simplistic, but it works very well. I netted $187 dollars off my $20 in tickets last drawing. I'll have to explain more in detail later, I'm sooooo tired right now. Just came back from my early birthday party. CheersPartyTwitch

                  What a wonderful world...

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                    The Pick-3 is a negative expectation game so a mechanical system that always does the same thing every time can not win often enough to play at a profit. 

                    You must either successfully pick the moment to use the system at the point when the wins appear or you must add your personal input based on gut feeling or such.  For example, betslips pays about 90% compared to the state's 50% so if you divide the numbers into two equal groups based on some sort of criteria you can track, a system becomes a 50/50 chance to win a fair profit instead of breaking even  playing half the numbers boxed or straight each draw.

                    BobP

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                      Posted: November 19, 2006, 5:49 am - IP Logged

                      Great thread, have been pondering some of the same questions myself.

                      Here is just a thought of mine.

                      Print out all your state's past results for the game you are interested in. Now think about what you are holding in your hand. A lottery system that's already been written.

                      Each state, each set of unique drawings, each a different lottery system.

                      The "system" is writing itself each day after every drawing.

                      Instead of forcing "our" systems to comply with it, why don't we study harder what is already there?

                      Hi Lottolaughs;

                      Well as again..... you had posted a well said comment!

                      I too have told myself this... that what we all are searching for here is right in front of our faces..... but the trick here is to decode it and understand it characteristics. Some of us are a bit impatient, but some of us other peoples will learn :)

                      So anything new on this pick 4 system that you have perfected?

                      Maverick2842......out!

                      Thank you and have a prosperous day!

                      Maverick2842.......out!Party

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                        Posted: November 19, 2006, 10:14 am - IP Logged

                        well...when u win with a system..that is the winning system.. by the way saliu's wonder grid

                        sure wins 80% most times, & 20% did not. I always get 20% ones, funny, i tried the announcer too..it annouced differently now..and i wonder how saliu gets from , all the combinations he checks against the draw data.. using his Gridcheck632..anyone pl help . nolank. tks

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                          Posted: November 19, 2006, 10:18 am - IP Logged

                            There is alot of good replies......THANKS.

                            A couple that come close to my approach..

                             1) Every lottery is different....I totally agree. If you do detailed analysis of historical picks from different lottery games or the same game from different states this is an obvious FACT. It is one of the reasons I've stayed away from betting all States with a set of numbers.

                            2) Is your system picking more of the wrong numbers rather than the right numbers...This something I monitor very closely. Whenever I make modifications to my systems, I'll track this to find out if I have indeed made an improvement of have gone down another bad path.

                            3) The system is right in front of our faces...the lottery results themselves. I am a firm believer that a historical pick analysis is the best way to go. Working the data to find the most appropiate math/filter scheme. Not trying every math equation in the book for a match. I think we've all seen that there is no one equation out there that will be successful. Perhaps, a mix of equations/filters will work, but, this will only be determined by studying the data, like being in a science lab.

                          Thanks again....keep the ideas coming *S*

                          You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

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                              There is alot of good replies......THANKS.

                              A couple that come close to my approach..

                               1) Every lottery is different....I totally agree. If you do detailed analysis of historical picks from different lottery games or the same game from different states this is an obvious FACT. It is one of the reasons I've stayed away from betting all States with a set of numbers.

                              2) Is your system picking more of the wrong numbers rather than the right numbers...This something I monitor very closely. Whenever I make modifications to my systems, I'll track this to find out if I have indeed made an improvement of have gone down another bad path.

                              3) The system is right in front of our faces...the lottery results themselves. I am a firm believer that a historical pick analysis is the best way to go. Working the data to find the most appropiate math/filter scheme. Not trying every math equation in the book for a match. I think we've all seen that there is no one equation out there that will be successful. Perhaps, a mix of equations/filters will work, but, this will only be determined by studying the data, like being in a science lab.

                            Thanks again....keep the ideas coming *S*

                            With each state's lottery being different, I don't understand how or why people take a set of numbers and then play them for "all states."  What type of system is this?  No offense intended to anyone who plays this way, but I just don't understand how this works.  Is it just "luck?"
                            Stavros

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                              The Pick-3 is a negative expectation game so a mechanical system that always does the same thing every time can not win often enough to play at a profit. 

                              You must either successfully pick the moment to use the system at the point when the wins appear or you must add your personal input based on gut feeling or such.  For example, betslips pays about 90% compared to the state's 50% so if you divide the numbers into two equal groups based on some sort of criteria you can track, a system becomes a 50/50 chance to win a fair profit instead of breaking even  playing half the numbers boxed or straight each draw.

                              BobP

                              Cool responses, BobP I think hit the right note on this one. Thank God I have the means to beat those outstanding odds against me. My head and my intuition is my winning system, and I found that it dosn't work for alot of people simply becuz one may not be able to relate. Depending on how you play and where you play at, is the system your going to use...and what system greatly helps your game, may greatly hurt anothers.

                              It's connected in some way or another

                              "The happiest moment of your life will be the moment it ends...thats because it doesn't end but goes on in ways so magnificent, so full of peace - wisdom - and joy, as to make it difficult to describe  and impossible for you to comprehend"

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