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Daily 4
Dates: 11/6/2006 to 12/5/2006
1st Digit2nd Digit3rd Digit4th Digit
No.
Freq.
5
15.00%
7
15.00%
3
11.67%
2
11.67%
8
10.00%
9
10.00%
1
8.33%
4
6.67%
0
6.67%
6
5.00%
No.
Freq.
6
16.67%
0
15.00%
4
13.33%
9
11.67%
8
8.33%
7
8.33%
5
8.33%
3
8.33%
2
6.67%
1
3.33%
No.
Freq.
2
21.67%
0
15.00%
5
10.00%
3
10.00%
6
8.33%
9
8.33%
7
8.33%
4
6.67%
1
6.67%
8
5.00%
No.
Freq.
7
13.33%
2
13.33%
1
11.67%
9
10.00%
6
10.00%
4
10.00%
8
8.33%
0
8.33%
5
8.33%
3
6.67%

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    Posted: December 6, 2006, 7:03 am - IP Logged

    That can be good for positional analysis.  Looks like a nice view to add here at LP.

     

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      Posted: December 6, 2006, 7:09 am - IP Logged

      Statistical analysis by state would be great!!

      Keep it simple 

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        Posted: December 6, 2006, 8:54 am - IP Logged

        Thanks for the data. I maintain this data for pick four myself and it works well.

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          Posted: December 6, 2006, 10:02 am - IP Logged

          I emailed the Lottery commission and asked whether this stats were for midday or evening, and they responded saying that they have both games history in their stats.......hope it's still usefull.

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            Midday 4 (Michigan)
            From: TUE 10/17/06       Thru: TUE 12/05/06
            Total draws in selected range       50
            Top 3 hot numbers      7, 5, 9
            Top 3 cold numbers      1, 8, 4
            Top 3 overdue numbers      3, 6, 2

            Set #      Combinations
            1     4-5-9-2
            2     7-7-3-4
            3     3-5-4-8
            4     9-2-8-7
            5     9-6-6-1
            6     9-5-8-3
            7     4-5-5-6
            8     9-6-4-2
            9     7-5-5-9
            10     9-2-5-1

            Evening 4 (Michigan)
            From: TUE 10/17/06       Thru: TUE 12/05/06
            Total draws in selected range       50
            Top 3 hot numbers      3, 8, 2
            Top 3 cold numbers      9, 7, 5
            Top 3 overdue numbers      1, 3, 5

            Set #      Combinations
            1     1-9-3-5
            2     7-3-3-3
            3     8-1-5-7
            4     9-5-5-1
            5     3-7-2-7
            6     9-7-1-8
            7     8-3-5-5
            8     7-3-1-2
            9     2-1-8-8
            10     3-9-2-2

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              Posted: December 6, 2006, 12:35 pm - IP Logged

              The Pick 4 game in MI is played twice a day - the data in the chart represents 60 drawings and every 1.67% represents one appearance of that number. In real numbers:

              ..1st..|..2nd..|..3rd..|..4th
              No.Freq|No.Freq|No.Freq|No.Freq
              .5...9.|.6..10.|.2..13.|.7...8
              .7...9.|.0...9.|.0...9.|.2...8
              .3...7.|.4...8.|.5...6.|.1...7
              .2...7.|.9...7.|.3...6.|.9...6
              .8...6.|.8...5.|.6...5.|.6...6
              .9...6.|.7...5.|.9...5.|.4...6
              .1...5.|.5...5.|.7...5.|.8...5
              .4...4.|.3...5.|.4...4.|.0...5
              .0...4.|.2...4.|.1...4.|.5...5
              .6...3.|.1...2.|.8...3.|.3...4

              Totals and Percentages:

              .No.TL...Pct
              .0..29.12.08%
              .1..18..7.50%
              .2..32.13.33%
              .3..22..9.17%
              .4..22..9.17%
              .5..25.10.42%
              .6..24.10.00%
              .7..27.11.25%
              .8..19..7.92%
              .9..24.10.00%

              Statistically, too small a sample to make any conclusions.

              gl

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                Midday 4 (Michigan)
                From: TUE 10/17/06       Thru: TUE 12/05/06
                Total draws in selected range       50
                Top 3 hot numbers      7, 5, 9
                Top 3 cold numbers      1, 8, 4
                Top 3 overdue numbers      3, 6, 2

                Set #      Combinations
                1     4-5-9-2
                2     7-7-3-4
                3     3-5-4-8
                4     9-2-8-7
                5     9-6-6-1
                6     9-5-8-3
                7     4-5-5-6
                8     9-6-4-2
                9     7-5-5-9
                10     9-2-5-1

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                  Posted: December 6, 2006, 1:32 pm - IP Logged

                  The Pick 4 game in MI is played twice a day - the data in the chart represents 60 drawings and every 1.67% represents one appearance of that number. In real numbers:

                  ..1st..|..2nd..|..3rd..|..4th
                  No.Freq|No.Freq|No.Freq|No.Freq
                  .5...9.|.6..10.|.2..13.|.7...8
                  .7...9.|.0...9.|.0...9.|.2...8
                  .3...7.|.4...8.|.5...6.|.1...7
                  .2...7.|.9...7.|.3...6.|.9...6
                  .8...6.|.8...5.|.6...5.|.6...6
                  .9...6.|.7...5.|.9...5.|.4...6
                  .1...5.|.5...5.|.7...5.|.8...5
                  .4...4.|.3...5.|.4...4.|.0...5
                  .0...4.|.2...4.|.1...4.|.5...5
                  .6...3.|.1...2.|.8...3.|.3...4

                  Totals and Percentages:

                  .No.TL...Pct
                  .0..29.12.08%
                  .1..18..7.50%
                  .2..32.13.33%
                  .3..22..9.17%
                  .4..22..9.17%
                  .5..25.10.42%
                  .6..24.10.00%
                  .7..27.11.25%
                  .8..19..7.92%
                  .9..24.10.00%

                  Statistically, too small a sample to make any conclusions.

                  gl

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                  Well, yes and no.

                  You are lumping the stats from Midday and Evening together, but many players analyze each game separately.

                   

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                    Posted: December 6, 2006, 1:43 pm - IP Logged

                    Midday 4 (Michigan)
                    From: TUE 10/17/06       Thru: TUE 12/05/06
                    Total draws in selected range       50
                    Top 3 hot numbers      7, 5, 9
                    Top 3 cold numbers      1, 8, 4
                    Top 3 overdue numbers      3, 6, 2

                    Set #      Combinations
                    1     4-5-9-2
                    2     7-7-3-4
                    3     3-5-4-8
                    4     9-2-8-7
                    5     9-6-6-1
                    6     9-5-8-3
                    7     4-5-5-6
                    8     9-6-4-2
                    9     7-5-5-9
                    10     9-2-5-1

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                    Raven,

                    I know the source of that data, and it's so-so.  The reason I say that is because it over-simplifies the data and really bends it in order to provide a perfect 3x3x3 breakdown ("top 3" of each). 

                    Plus, I do not like the categories "hot, cold, and overdue". 

                    I think "hot, nuetral, and cold" are better, and I also think it should not be forced into the top 3 numbers from each category.  If there are 5 hot numbers, 1 neutral, and 4 cold, then that's how it should read.  All the numbers should be listed, not 9 out of 10.

                    Lastly, there is nothing that says how the 10 number sets were made.  It should tell the person that they are highly random sets, rather than wheeled or something like that.  Some people like random numbers, but it would be more useful to include wheeling options.

                    By the way, all these things will be available at Lottery Post hopefully sometime soon.  I have seen people use that other set of data, but I just don't think it is useful for serious players.

                     

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                      Well, yes and no.

                      You are lumping the stats from Midday and Evening together, but many players analyze each game separately.

                      Correct - and the data presented in the chart in the original post in this thread also is a compendium of the results from both draws.

                      gl

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                        Raven,

                        I know the source of that data, and it's so-so.  The reason I say that is because it over-simplifies the data and really bends it in order to provide a perfect 3x3x3 breakdown ("top 3" of each). 

                        Plus, I do not like the categories "hot, cold, and overdue". 

                        I think "hot, nuetral, and cold" are better, and I also think it should not be forced into the top 3 numbers from each category.  If there are 5 hot numbers, 1 neutral, and 4 cold, then that's how it should read.  All the numbers should be listed, not 9 out of 10.

                        Lastly, there is nothing that says how the 10 number sets were made.  It should tell the person that they are highly random sets, rather than wheeled or something like that.  Some people like random numbers, but it would be more useful to include wheeling options.

                        By the way, all these things will be available at Lottery Post hopefully sometime soon.  I have seen people use that other set of data, but I just don't think it is useful for serious players.

                        Todd,

                        Thank You! You have saved me the time of writing up the suggestion for an Intelligent Quick Picker (Quick Picks are Generated off of Previous Draw Results based on Frequency and/or Skip).

                        So let the Program Development begin: Maybe it'll be done by Christmas! Big Grin

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                          Evening 4 (Michigan)
                          From: TUE 10/17/06       Thru: TUE 12/05/06
                          Total draws in selected range       50
                          Top 3 hot numbers      3, 8, 2
                          Top 3 cold numbers      9, 7, 5
                          Top 3 overdue numbers      1, 3, 5

                          Set #      Combinations
                          1     1-9-3-5
                          2     7-3-3-3
                          3     8-1-5-7
                          4     9-5-5-1
                          5     3-7-2-7
                          6     9-7-1-8
                          7     8-3-5-5
                          8     7-3-1-2
                          9     2-1-8-8
                          10     3-9-2-2

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                            Todd,

                            If you are going to do a positional data for lottery post you may want to consider adding something like this to go along with the percentage history.

                            This one here is for S.C. eve draws.
                             
                                 

                            Since Drawn   
                             |  P1  P2  P3  P4| 
                            0:  17  7  1    | 
                            1:  4  10  2    |   
                            2:  29  1  0    |   
                            3:  36  5  7    | 
                            4:  0  2  15    | 
                            5:  2  8  19    | 
                            6:  13  3  3    |
                            7:  6  21  18    | 
                            8:  8  40  12    | 
                            9:  1  0  5    | 

                            WHATT

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                              Todd,

                              If you are going to do a positional data for lottery post you may want to consider adding something like this to go along with the percentage history.

                              This one here is for S.C. eve draws.
                               
                                   

                              Since Drawn   
                               |  P1  P2  P3  P4| 
                              0:  17  7  1    | 
                              1:  4  10  2    |   
                              2:  29  1  0    |   
                              3:  36  5  7    | 
                              4:  0  2  15    | 
                              5:  2  8  19    | 
                              6:  13  3  3    |
                              7:  6  21  18    | 
                              8:  8  40  12    | 
                              9:  1  0  5    | 

                              Are the labels on your table correct?  I see P1 through P4, but only 3 columns of data.

                               

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