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Posted: December 25, 2006, 9:37 pm - IP Logged

Who here plays Pick 3 using any system that produces 10 picks or less per night? If you feel like sharing your methods, then feel free to do so. If not, tha's fine. I'm just trying to figure out if the only way most people win on here is by playing 30-100 picks, or if anyone is using a "low-budget" system with "proven" results......... I personally have found MANY things that work, but they've all required so many picks per night that after a few losses, the few wins I'm able to squeeze out still leave me playing in the red.... Just curious.

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    Posted: December 26, 2006, 1:03 am - IP Logged

    Shawn67

    "I personally have found MANY things that work, but they've all required so many picks per night that after a few losses, the few wins I'm able to squeeze out still leave me playing in the red.."

     Then they don't really work, do they? Kind of like betting both sides of a football gamejust  to claim a winner. 

    I'm probably one of those "low budget" players you're talking about, but I'd rather stick to my $1- $3 range on Pick 3's than betting $80 to win $40 in the long run. Like you said, the few winners leave you playing in the red when you play like that.  

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: December 26, 2006, 1:43 am - IP Logged

      The first step is to get a Platinum Membership so that you can keep better track of & research the #s.

      Secondly, comb the posts for posters who have revealed their followers. There are 6 way #s that follow 3 way combos (doubles) & vice versa. Using the followers in this manner you can cover all of the bases.

      Experiment with the tools that the Platinum Membership offers. Try the Search Past Results using the followers that you have gathered. Check to see what followers are traveling together & which ones are traveling a day apart.

      What I have stated above is a start. However, when you incorporate, mates, mirrors, totals, states & dates, then the game is yours. :-)

      Decide if you are going to be an online player or if you are going to play only your state.

      Todd has provided us with a very detailed outline of playing the pick 3 & pick 4 online. Read the posts, I'm sure that they will be very beneficial to you.

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        Posted: December 26, 2006, 2:56 am - IP Logged

        Who here plays Pick 3 using any system that produces 10 picks or less per night? If you feel like sharing your methods, then feel free to do so. If not, tha's fine. I'm just trying to figure out if the only way most people win on here is by playing 30-100 picks, or if anyone is using a "low-budget" system with "proven" results......... I personally have found MANY things that work, but they've all required so many picks per night that after a few losses, the few wins I'm able to squeeze out still leave me playing in the red.... Just curious.

          To beat the system, it has been my experience that it's best to use an online casino which pays almost double the real rates, and that you MUST buy hundreds of the correct ticket combos in order to hit often enough to make a profit. At the same time, I only concentrate on playing one or two games, and not all States or Provinces where you can easily get carried away. The various rundowns and workouts do point to an upcoming combo to be drawn, but then, so does a Pick 2 of 3 wheel! It's always that third number that kills you. You have to play a lot of combos to take full advantage of the situation regularly, and you have to play often to catch the wins.

          By observing the past occurrences and historical data in my Ontario game, I looked for ways to safely eliminate 3 different digits in each position A, B, C,  in order to full-wheel all 3 positions at 7 X 7 X 7 = 343 combos! This creates an awkward situation which covered all singles doubles and triples combos using most or all 10 of the available digits in the game. At first glance, it appears that you are still betting all 10 numbers. The fact that I played 7 numbers only per position made it seem like I was configuring combos to play using 70% of the 10 numbers ( 7/10 in position A, 7/10 in position B, and 7/10 in position C ). But wheeling 7 X 7 X 7 digits positionally  produces only about 1/3 of the total 1000 combos in a Pick 3 game ( 343, actually ). You can verify this using Paurths' Pick 3 FreeWheelLotsoft Tool. ( Thank You for that, Paurths...It comes in handy ). I would also like to point out that there is no way to safely remove 3 digits per position for all games, but that the feat is possible using various means for a fixed percentage of the draw results, which needs to be determined for your particular local game by trial and error.

          Although it appeared that way, I never really eliminated 3 numbers entirely from play, so that I was still playing 10 numbers most of the time, but I restricted the positions that they would appear in, thereby cutting down the number of combos to play...It gets scary...That's why we are all here to see what the other members do to cut down the costs and still make a profit. We still need to share those MANY things that work, and then learn how to keep them working well even if there is no logic to it...OBSERVATION ONLY! 

         I started by taking my previous day's Ontario draw result, and did a -555 Lottery/Egyptian Math operation on it, and used the ABC result to eliminate the resultant positional digits from the positional wheel for next draw.

          More clearly, if the last draw of my daily draw result was 672, I would arbitrarily subtract -555 from the 672 using Lottery Math. I picked -555 out of a hat, and have since found that -666 worked better for this purpose in my Ontario game over the short term ( In fact, I tried this method on 50 past draws using -111, -222, -333, -444, -555, -666, -777, -888, and -999...no use doing the -000  since it brings you back to the original number, 672, and I found a clash with regards to repeating digits in exact positions in too many following next draws if I eliminated the very previous draw digits by exact position...If I eliminate a 6 in positin A for next draw, and a 6 is then subsequently drawn in Position A, I lose ). Trial and error will tell, but those figures will need adjusting somewhere along the way because they will not remain constant forever as the number progression of the game evolves to satisfy the law of averages.

            Using Lottery Math or Ancient Egyptian Math  672 - 555 = 127

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         672

        -555 

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         127

         A = 1

         B = 2

         C = 7

          In my next draw's proposed positional wheel, I would eliminate the digit 1 from Position A, digit 2 from Position B, and digit 7 from Position C. That would require me to full-wheel 9 digits per position in the following draw, and hope like hell that Position A does not produce a drawn result of 1, nor a 2 in Position B, nor a 7 in Position C. Try that configuration in Paurth's freewheellotsoft program. It produces 729 STRAIGHT combos. I would try other gimmicks to eliminate 2 other digits per position as well with a certain percentage of success which needs upgrading :)  Maybe the LP members can help with hints and ideas which might produce more consistent results in utilising this idea of eliminating digits per position to wheel for the next draw...Maybe the software writers can fabricate a simple tool that allows us to enter the last draw combo for our local game, and then it automatically calculates and displays the -111 through -999 rundown on it so that we can compare the next draw result with the best rundown figures to have used to eliminate digits by position for the next draw...Only back-testing will reveal which rundown figures are best to use to eliminate digits by position for your game. This is simply an arbitrary method I use, there is no real lottery logic to it...sometimes that works best because randomness doesn't expect surprises like that from a player!

          I rarely played the triples because they hardly ever hit in my game, and I tried to guess when doubles were due based on observation, so that I wouldn't play them at all to cut the costs further. In playing single combos only ( eliminating doubles and triples combos produced from the 7 X 7 X 7 positional wheel ), the total combos played would be 246 if no other filters were applied. These were STRAIGHT combos, not boxed bets. Using the LotteryPost reduction tool might make some interesting lower-cost boxed bets from those 246 STRAIGHT singles combos.

          I would play nothing but doubles combos when I felt they were imminent, doubling my bets if I missed...That gets really scary. I rarely use filters because they eliminate too many of the winning combos in too many of the draw results, but I would apply some really loose filters occasionally that might only knock out a dozen or two combos for safety's sake. 

             However, I think we might have to abandon the idea that you can win regularly with only a handful of picks daily. The first questions to ask when someone brags that they hit a winner of any kind in any game yesterday is...How long have you been using this strategy, and how much did it cost you to play so far to hit that win?...Most of the software writers in the LP forums seem to have reached that conclusion.

         LottoHackJack

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          Posted: December 27, 2006, 1:47 am - IP Logged

          You don't have to play every single day, and win every single day.  Sure, it's fun to win.  But I don't play any more than 10 sets of numbers.  In fact, I don't even play numbers every day.  I'm learning how to trap numbers and bet big on them.

          Keep it simple 

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            Posted: December 27, 2006, 1:50 am - IP Logged

            Sometimes the term "proven results" simply means sticking with your numbers for a week or so.  Hitting every day... playing low budget... I don't see it happening.

            Keep it simple