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Posted: January 6, 2007, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

I think this is a great system.

I'll do Oklahoma's history, but with a little twist.

I'm going to reorder the picks according to numeric sequence.

So, pick 924 becomes 249; pick 821 becomes 128; ect...

I want to reoder them so when I do the frogger math from one to the other,

I can focus on reoccurring patterns in the math.

Then I might be able to see which addition sequences happen more frequently.

Plus, I need something like this to keep my brain busy. I ain't gettin' no younger.

I'll work on it and return with my findings...

  When dissecting a lotto database to look for patterns in this manner, the rearranging of the draw combo pattern is one of the first things I do also before performing any operations on them and logging the results for the last 50 to 100 draws. First I put in order and use the smallest to largest digits in the combo, then the largest to smallest. Then I use the remaining combinatoric ways to construct the same combo in different orders.

    I proceed by using the actual draw combo as ABC, followed by ACB, BCA, BAC, CAB, CBA... its' breakdown by rearranging the data in the 1, or 3, or 6-ways possible, depending on whether the draw combo was a singles combo, a doubles combo, or a triples combo for Pick 3, ( or a quad combo for Pick 4 games ).

  Sometimes I do find that if all draws were re-arranged in a certain one of the 6-way/3-way patterns ( such as always using the BAC pattern for instance ), and the same operation was performed to arrive at a combo pick to use for next draw while always using the BAC version of the past draw results, some patterns will create a noticeably higher percentage of direct hits and boxed hits than they otherwise would have if we had stuck with the actual database draw order of the combo, depending on what operation you have performed on the combos to achieve a result.

  I consider this method a good practice simply because your mind will suddenly come up with all kinds of ideas and emotions about picking a winning combo, and spurs you on to back-testing other possibilities.

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    I want to test Georgia for tonight. I did a workout on the last month and took the top 9 skips.

    It's a 90 number grid, but I will try to pick which 4 columns to play using Drawing Statistics for

    Georgia's Evening game. I used the default setting of 50 days and the highest ranked 4 digits are

    5, 9, 8, and 2. So, I'll watch those four columns for tonight.

    --1----2----3----4----5----6----7----8----9---0

    123 234 345 456 567 678 789 890 901 012

    145 256 367 478 589 690 701 812 923 034

    125 236 347 458 569 670 781 892 903 014

    146 257 368 479 580 691 702 813 924 035

    135 246 357 468 579 680 791 802 913 024

    136 247 358 469 570 681 792 803 914 025

    124 235 346 457 568 679 780 891 902 013

    122 233 344 455 566 677 788 899 900 011

    148 259 360 471 582 693 704 815 926 037

    How are you doing over here,Steve? I see that 306 hit midday today. You have 360. But that's not the column you are watching,is it?

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      Actually, now that I've read it over a few times, I think I understand what Lottolaughs is getting at in their fourth post, with the formula box...

      I want to see if I understand it, so I'll use last night's Ohio evening number, 784...  Looking back through the results, the add-ons for all the other times 784 were drawn were:

      234
      024
      679
      231
      237
      235
      740

      Off the bat, I can see that four of the seven start with 23-, so I can start off with that. Making some educated picks from the list, I end up with something like

      0 2 4
      2 3 5
      7 7 9

      Giving me add-ons of

      025 028 029
      035 038 039
      075 078 079
      225 228 229
      235 238 239
      275 278 279
      725 728 729
      735 738 739
      775 778 779

      Which when added to 784 gives playable numbers of

      709 702 703
      719 712 713
      759 752 753
      909 902 903
      919 912 913
      959 952 953
      409 402 403
      419 412 413
      459 452 453

      Did I do that right? 

      Welcome to the Post,Gus! Thanks for visiting here!

      Sounds like you understand perfectly. If you've got your follower numbers all mapped out,you've got it easy! That's what I'm working on too.

      One more hint--you might want to also write out your add-on's from a whole week's worth of followers from your number, in this case 784. That will give you MORE add-on's to work with and perhaps find even more of a pattern. That's what I'm hoping to find. Let me know what happens for you,thanks!

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          When dissecting a lotto database to look for patterns in this manner, the rearranging of the draw combo pattern is one of the first things I do also before performing any operations on them and logging the results for the last 50 to 100 draws. First I put in order and use the smallest to largest digits in the combo, then the largest to smallest. Then I use the remaining combinatoric ways to construct the same combo in different orders.

            I proceed by using the actual draw combo as ABC, followed by ACB, BCA, BAC, CAB, CBA... its' breakdown by rearranging the data in the 1, or 3, or 6-ways possible, depending on whether the draw combo was a singles combo, a doubles combo, or a triples combo for Pick 3, ( or a quad combo for Pick 4 games ).

          Sometimes I do find that if all draws were re-arranged in a certain one of the 6-way/3-way patterns ( such as always using the BAC pattern for instance ), and the same operation was performed to arrive at a combo pick to use for next draw while always using the BAC version of the past draw results, some patterns will create a noticeably higher percentage of direct hits and boxed hits than they otherwise would have if we had stuck with the actual database draw order of the combo, depending on what operation you have performed on the combos to achieve a result.

          I consider this method a good practice simply because your mind will suddenly come up with all kinds of ideas and emotions about picking a winning combo, and spurs you on to back-testing other possibilities.

         LottoHackJack 

        Hey,Jack,good to hear from you. Know you've been busy with your system and so glad to see that it's available. Can't wait to see what you've come up with!

        Thanks for the info. Every little bit helps!

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          Gus,this is for you.

          An example here so we are clear about the followers. I was just reading my answer to you and I can see how this could be misinterpreted. When I'm saying followers I'm refering to what your add-on's would be in relation to the drawing number,again for your 784. Not how they would be if you had gone through all the results and done them number to number but what you would have had to add on to 784 to get them.

          Take for example a past result from CA.

          724

          These were the 7 followers--

          387

          358

          661

          145

          942

          009

          903

           

          Now if we were to do the add-on's normally for these numbers,here's what we'd have---

          663

          634

          947

          421

          228

          385

          289

           

          Followers rearranged from smallest to largest:

          378

          358

          166

          145

          249

          009

          039

          Watch the difference in the add-on pattern----

          654

          634

          442

          421

          525

          385

          315

          Look at all the 4's and 5's that start jumping out at you. This is what will help you formulate that add-on box into the right combination!!

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            Great Post LottoLaughs..

            There is so much to learn with the history of draws..

            I am backtesting what I will call "repeated position"

            What I do is look for a position on the result page that was repeated.. for example if

            321

            024    falls.. The position II was repeated with the two.. Then I make pairs with the  14,  03 to come up with a number to play for the next few days..  Back testing has shown that sometimes within a week..  104 013 431 etc will come out..  Now this is something to use with other programs.. Another thing I have noticed is that when using the repeated position.. you will find a pair 13 in one rp and  35 in another rp.. This is warning you to play the  135 combo..

            Hope this helps someone..

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              Great Post LottoLaughs..

              There is so much to learn with the history of draws..

              I am backtesting what I will call "repeated position"

              What I do is look for a position on the result page that was repeated.. for example if

              321

              024    falls.. The position II was repeated with the two.. Then I make pairs with the  14,  03 to come up with a number to play for the next few days..  Back testing has shown that sometimes within a week..  104 013 431 etc will come out..  Now this is something to use with other programs.. Another thing I have noticed is that when using the repeated position.. you will find a pair 13 in one rp and  35 in another rp.. This is warning you to play the  135 combo..

              Hope this helps someone..

              , Jan 8, 20073-5-78-7-94-0-4-40-6-4-4
              Sat, Jan 6, 20070-7-13-5-63-4-4-58-0-3-5
              Fri, Jan 5, 20076-1-37-8-48-9-7-91-3-7-7
              Thu, Jan 4, 20070-8-79-4-41-8-6-96-1-6-3

               

              OHIO came through with the "repeated position" set-up as mentioned in this post.. Numbers were discussed in Chat last night.. Hope others took advantage of this opportunity.. 

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                Great Post LottoLaughs..

                There is so much to learn with the history of draws..

                I am backtesting what I will call "repeated position"

                What I do is look for a position on the result page that was repeated.. for example if

                321

                024    falls.. The position II was repeated with the two.. Then I make pairs with the  14,  03 to come up with a number to play for the next few days..  Back testing has shown that sometimes within a week..  104 013 431 etc will come out..  Now this is something to use with other programs.. Another thing I have noticed is that when using the repeated position.. you will find a pair 13 in one rp and  35 in another rp.. This is warning you to play the  135 combo..

                Hope this helps someone..

                Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                Mon, Jan 8, 20079-7-74-7-58-6-6-18-5-5-9
                Sun, Jan 7, 20078-3-60-4-6-1
                Sat, Jan 6, 20075-0-89-3-90-4-7-06-1-5-2
                Fri, Jan 5, 20077-2-08-5-01-9-0-81-0-5-5
                Thu, Jan 4, 20077-2-03-8-37-3-5-62-8-3-7
                Wed, Jan 3, 20076-2-85-5-84-3-3-42-8-4-5
                Tue, Jan 2, 20074-9-55-4-89-7-9-22-4-2-1

                 

                 

                TN came through with "repeated position" system as discussed above...

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                  DatePick 3Pick 4
                  MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                  Mon, Jan 8, 20070-2-95-0-66-3-1-99-1-8-2
                  Sun, Jan 7, 20079-1-17-4-62-5-9-20-9-4-2

                   

                  Your TS warning on the "repeated position" system..

                  574 740 054 094 804

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                    Posted: January 8, 2007, 8:27 pm - IP Logged
                    Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                    MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                    Mon, Jan 8, 20071-4-91-4-54-9-3-89-6-8-5
                    Sun, Jan 7, 20079-5-69-6-75-2-4-17-6-8-3

                     

                     

                    Your warning for Missouri    Liking 356 especially..  looking for  35 pairs and 97 pairs coming soon..

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                      Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                      MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                      Mon, Jan 8, 20078-8-29-1-34-7-7-52-2-0-3
                      Sun, Jan 7, 20075-3-65-2-97-4-9-84-9-2-6
                      Sat, Jan 6, 20076-3-17-9-06-2-6-42-3-7-6

                       

                      your PA warning...  I am shooting for  472 here in PA for next few days..  56  61 42  27  hot pairs coming.. 93 pair may repeat..

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                        Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                        MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                        Mon, Jan 8, 20070-6-8
                        Sun, Jan 7, 20077-0-15-7-1
                        Sat, Jan 6, 20072-3-69-2-7
                        Fri, Jan 5, 20075-3-16-9-9

                         

                         

                        CA warning..  661 161.  251  256  205

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                          Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                          MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                          Mon, Jan 8, 20070-6-8
                          Sun, Jan 7, 20077-0-15-7-1
                          Sat, Jan 6, 20072-3-69-2-7
                          Fri, Jan 5, 20075-3-16-9-9

                           

                           

                          CA warning..  661 161.  251  256  205

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                            Posted: January 8, 2007, 9:13 pm - IP Logged
                            Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                            MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                            Mon, Jan 8, 20070-6-8
                            Sun, Jan 7, 20077-0-15-7-1
                            Sat, Jan 6, 20072-3-69-2-7
                            Fri, Jan 5, 20075-3-16-9-9

                             

                             

                            CA warning..  661 161.  251  256  205

                            Love this whole test you've got going on here,tntea! Thanks for your interest and will keep watching to see what happens! Very curious to see how CA will do!

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                              Got a few things going with pick 4 as well using vtracs.. backtesting some states now before I  post..

                              Got to love these NUMBERS..

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