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# Let's Make Friends With the Pick 3 System

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 Posted: January 6, 2007, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

I think this is a great system.

I'll do Oklahoma's history, but with a little twist.

I'm going to reorder the picks according to numeric sequence.

So, pick 924 becomes 249; pick 821 becomes 128; ect...

I want to reoder them so when I do the frogger math from one to the other,

I can focus on reoccurring patterns in the math.

Then I might be able to see which addition sequences happen more frequently.

Plus, I need something like this to keep my brain busy. I ain't gettin' no younger.

I'll work on it and return with my findings...

When dissecting a lotto database to look for patterns in this manner, the rearranging of the draw combo pattern is one of the first things I do also before performing any operations on them and logging the results for the last 50 to 100 draws. First I put in order and use the smallest to largest digits in the combo, then the largest to smallest. Then I use the remaining combinatoric ways to construct the same combo in different orders.

I proceed by using the actual draw combo as ABC, followed by ACB, BCA, BAC, CAB, CBA... its' breakdown by rearranging the data in the 1, or 3, or 6-ways possible, depending on whether the draw combo was a singles combo, a doubles combo, or a triples combo for Pick 3, ( or a quad combo for Pick 4 games ).

Sometimes I do find that if all draws were re-arranged in a certain one of the 6-way/3-way patterns ( such as always using the BAC pattern for instance ), and the same operation was performed to arrive at a combo pick to use for next draw while always using the BAC version of the past draw results, some patterns will create a noticeably higher percentage of direct hits and boxed hits than they otherwise would have if we had stuck with the actual database draw order of the combo, depending on what operation you have performed on the combos to achieve a result.

I consider this method a good practice simply because your mind will suddenly come up with all kinds of ideas and emotions about picking a winning combo, and spurs you on to back-testing other possibilities.

LottoHackJack

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I want to test Georgia for tonight. I did a workout on the last month and took the top 9 skips.

It's a 90 number grid, but I will try to pick which 4 columns to play using Drawing Statistics for

Georgia's Evening game. I used the default setting of 50 days and the highest ranked 4 digits are

5, 9, 8, and 2. So, I'll watch those four columns for tonight.

--1----2----3----4----5----6----7----8----9---0

123 234 345 456 567 678 789 890 901 012

145 256 367 478 589 690 701 812 923 034

125 236 347 458 569 670 781 892 903 014

146 257 368 479 580 691 702 813 924 035

135 246 357 468 579 680 791 802 913 024

136 247 358 469 570 681 792 803 914 025

124 235 346 457 568 679 780 891 902 013

122 233 344 455 566 677 788 899 900 011

148 259 360 471 582 693 704 815 926 037

How are you doing over here,Steve? I see that 306 hit midday today. You have 360. But that's not the column you are watching,is it?

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Actually, now that I've read it over a few times, I think I understand what Lottolaughs is getting at in their fourth post, with the formula box...

I want to see if I understand it, so I'll use last night's Ohio evening number, 784...  Looking back through the results, the add-ons for all the other times 784 were drawn were:

234
024
679
231
237
235
740

Off the bat, I can see that four of the seven start with 23-, so I can start off with that. Making some educated picks from the list, I end up with something like

0 2 4
2 3 5
7 7 9

Giving me add-ons of

025 028 029
035 038 039
075 078 079
225 228 229
235 238 239
275 278 279
725 728 729
735 738 739
775 778 779

Which when added to 784 gives playable numbers of

709 702 703
719 712 713
759 752 753
909 902 903
919 912 913
959 952 953
409 402 403
419 412 413
459 452 453

Did I do that right?

Welcome to the Post,Gus! Thanks for visiting here!

Sounds like you understand perfectly. If you've got your follower numbers all mapped out,you've got it easy! That's what I'm working on too.

One more hint--you might want to also write out your add-on's from a whole week's worth of followers from your number, in this case 784. That will give you MORE add-on's to work with and perhaps find even more of a pattern. That's what I'm hoping to find. Let me know what happens for you,thanks!

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When dissecting a lotto database to look for patterns in this manner, the rearranging of the draw combo pattern is one of the first things I do also before performing any operations on them and logging the results for the last 50 to 100 draws. First I put in order and use the smallest to largest digits in the combo, then the largest to smallest. Then I use the remaining combinatoric ways to construct the same combo in different orders.

I proceed by using the actual draw combo as ABC, followed by ACB, BCA, BAC, CAB, CBA... its' breakdown by rearranging the data in the 1, or 3, or 6-ways possible, depending on whether the draw combo was a singles combo, a doubles combo, or a triples combo for Pick 3, ( or a quad combo for Pick 4 games ).

Sometimes I do find that if all draws were re-arranged in a certain one of the 6-way/3-way patterns ( such as always using the BAC pattern for instance ), and the same operation was performed to arrive at a combo pick to use for next draw while always using the BAC version of the past draw results, some patterns will create a noticeably higher percentage of direct hits and boxed hits than they otherwise would have if we had stuck with the actual database draw order of the combo, depending on what operation you have performed on the combos to achieve a result.

I consider this method a good practice simply because your mind will suddenly come up with all kinds of ideas and emotions about picking a winning combo, and spurs you on to back-testing other possibilities.

LottoHackJack

Hey,Jack,good to hear from you. Know you've been busy with your system and so glad to see that it's available. Can't wait to see what you've come up with!

Thanks for the info. Every little bit helps!

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Gus,this is for you.

An example here so we are clear about the followers. I was just reading my answer to you and I can see how this could be misinterpreted. When I'm saying followers I'm refering to what your add-on's would be in relation to the drawing number,again for your 784. Not how they would be if you had gone through all the results and done them number to number but what you would have had to add on to 784 to get them.

Take for example a past result from CA.

724

These were the 7 followers--

387

358

661

145

942

009

903

Now if we were to do the add-on's normally for these numbers,here's what we'd have---

663

634

947

421

228

385

289

Followers rearranged from smallest to largest:

378

358

166

145

249

009

039

Watch the difference in the add-on pattern----

654

634

442

421

525

385

315

Look at all the 4's and 5's that start jumping out at you. This is what will help you formulate that add-on box into the right combination!!

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Great Post LottoLaughs..

There is so much to learn with the history of draws..

I am backtesting what I will call "repeated position"

What I do is look for a position on the result page that was repeated.. for example if

321

024    falls.. The position II was repeated with the two.. Then I make pairs with the  14,  03 to come up with a number to play for the next few days..  Back testing has shown that sometimes within a week..  104 013 431 etc will come out..  Now this is something to use with other programs.. Another thing I have noticed is that when using the repeated position.. you will find a pair 13 in one rp and  35 in another rp.. This is warning you to play the  135 combo..

Hope this helps someone..

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Great Post LottoLaughs..

There is so much to learn with the history of draws..

I am backtesting what I will call "repeated position"

What I do is look for a position on the result page that was repeated.. for example if

321

024    falls.. The position II was repeated with the two.. Then I make pairs with the  14,  03 to come up with a number to play for the next few days..  Back testing has shown that sometimes within a week..  104 013 431 etc will come out..  Now this is something to use with other programs.. Another thing I have noticed is that when using the repeated position.. you will find a pair 13 in one rp and  35 in another rp.. This is warning you to play the  135 combo..

Hope this helps someone..

, Jan 8, 2007 Sat, Jan 6, 2007 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3-5-7 8-7-9 4-0-4-4 0-6-4-4 0-7-1 3-5-6 3-4-4-5 8-0-3-5 6-1-3 7-8-4 8-9-7-9 1-3-7-7 0-8-7 9-4-4 1-8-6-9 6-1-6-3

OHIO came through with the "repeated position" set-up as mentioned in this post.. Numbers were discussed in Chat last night.. Hope others took advantage of this opportunity..

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Great Post LottoLaughs..

There is so much to learn with the history of draws..

I am backtesting what I will call "repeated position"

What I do is look for a position on the result page that was repeated.. for example if

321

024    falls.. The position II was repeated with the two.. Then I make pairs with the  14,  03 to come up with a number to play for the next few days..  Back testing has shown that sometimes within a week..  104 013 431 etc will come out..  Now this is something to use with other programs.. Another thing I have noticed is that when using the repeated position.. you will find a pair 13 in one rp and  35 in another rp.. This is warning you to play the  135 combo..

Hope this helps someone..

Mon, Jan 8, 2007 Sun, Jan 7, 2007 Sat, Jan 6, 2007 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 9-7-7 4-7-5 8-6-6-1 8-5-5-9 8-3-6 0-4-6-1 5-0-8 9-3-9 0-4-7-0 6-1-5-2 7-2-0 8-5-0 1-9-0-8 1-0-5-5 7-2-0 3-8-3 7-3-5-6 2-8-3-7 6-2-8 5-5-8 4-3-3-4 2-8-4-5 4-9-5 5-4-8 9-7-9-2 2-4-2-1

TN came through with "repeated position" system as discussed above...

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 Mon, Jan 8, 2007 Sun, Jan 7, 2007 Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 0-2-9 5-0-6 6-3-1-9 9-1-8-2 9-1-1 7-4-6 2-5-9-2 0-9-4-2

Your TS warning on the "repeated position" system..

574 740 054 094 804

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 Mon, Jan 8, 2007 Sun, Jan 7, 2007 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 1-4-9 1-4-5 4-9-3-8 9-6-8-5 9-5-6 9-6-7 5-2-4-1 7-6-8-3

Your warning for Missouri    Liking 356 especially..  looking for  35 pairs and 97 pairs coming soon..

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 Mon, Jan 8, 2007 Sun, Jan 7, 2007 Sat, Jan 6, 2007 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 8-8-2 9-1-3 4-7-7-5 2-2-0-3 5-3-6 5-2-9 7-4-9-8 4-9-2-6 6-3-1 7-9-0 6-2-6-4 2-3-7-6

your PA warning...  I am shooting for  472 here in PA for next few days..  56  61 42  27  hot pairs coming.. 93 pair may repeat..

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Mon, Jan 8, 2007 Sun, Jan 7, 2007 Sat, Jan 6, 2007 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 0-6-8 7-0-1 5-7-1 2-3-6 9-2-7 5-3-1 6-9-9

CA warning..  661 161.  251  256  205

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Mon, Jan 8, 2007 Sun, Jan 7, 2007 Sat, Jan 6, 2007 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 0-6-8 7-0-1 5-7-1 2-3-6 9-2-7 5-3-1 6-9-9

CA warning..  661 161.  251  256  205

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Mon, Jan 8, 2007 Sun, Jan 7, 2007 Sat, Jan 6, 2007 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 0-6-8 7-0-1 5-7-1 2-3-6 9-2-7 5-3-1 6-9-9

CA warning..  661 161.  251  256  205

Love this whole test you've got going on here,tntea! Thanks for your interest and will keep watching to see what happens! Very curious to see how CA will do!

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Got a few things going with pick 4 as well using vtracs.. backtesting some states now before I  post..

Got to love these NUMBERS..

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