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Posted: January 25, 2007, 11:56 pm - IP Logged

Fellow Forum Members,

I only play Florida Megamoney which is a pick 5 game that requires 4 main ball picks from 44 balls, and 1 BONUS ball pick from 22 balls.  The wheels available on this website fall under two groups: Pick 5 Wheels, and Pick 6 Wheels. This does not help me.

Therefore, I want to make my own wheel not for a Pick 5 game, but instead for a Pick 4 game.  I plan to ignore the bonus ball in my wheel and only come up with a wheel design that focuses on the four main numbers. I would like my Pick 4 wheel to allow me to play 17 numbers, have a 4 of 4 guarantee, and be a finely balanced wheel. 

Can anyone give me some idea of where to look for such a wheel? Is there a website or a book out there that will offer a wide selection of Pick 4 wheels.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

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    Posted: January 26, 2007, 1:55 am - IP Logged

    Fellow Forum Members,

    I only play Florida Megamoney which is a pick 5 game that requires 4 main ball picks from 44 balls, and 1 BONUS ball pick from 22 balls.  The wheels available on this website fall under two groups: Pick 5 Wheels, and Pick 6 Wheels. This does not help me.

    Therefore, I want to make my own wheel not for a Pick 5 game, but instead for a Pick 4 game.  I plan to ignore the bonus ball in my wheel and only come up with a wheel design that focuses on the four main numbers. I would like my Pick 4 wheel to allow me to play 17 numbers, have a 4 of 4 guarantee, and be a finely balanced wheel. 

    Can anyone give me some idea of where to look for such a wheel? Is there a website or a book out there that will offer a wide selection of Pick 4 wheels.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

    You would use either a Pick-6 wheel with 2 key numbers or a Pick-5 wheel with 1 key number. The problem is the cost.  A 4if4 wheel would take about 70 lines to cover 8 numbers.  Even a 3if4 wheel would take 9 lines for 9 numbers.  The reason Mega Money pays so much better then Pick-5 is because it's that much harder to win.

    You see, a line of 6 numbers contains 15 different ways to combine 6 numbers into sets of 4, while a line of 4 numbers contains only 1 way to combine those 4 numbers so you must build coverage by swapping out one number at a time.

    Here is a 3if4in17 wheel in 89 lines. For Pick-6 it would guarantee a 5# prize with two correct key numbers.

     1  2  3  6
     1  2  7  8
     1  2 12 17
     1  2 13 14
     1  3 10 13
     1  3 14 17
     1  4  5  9
     1  4  6 14
     1  4  8 13
     1  4  9 14
     1  4 10 12
     1  5  7 14
     1  5 16 17
     1  6  8  9
     1  6 10 13
     1  6 11 15
     1  7  9 10
     1  7 11 12
     1  8  9 15
     1 10 11 17
     1 10 15 16
     2  3  5 11
     2  3  9 13
     2  3 10 14
     2  4  5 14
     2  4 11 13
     2  4 12 17
     2  4 15 16
     2  5  9 16
     2  5 10 15
     2  6  7 17
     2  6  8 13
     2  6 11 16
     2  7 10 12
     2  8 15 17
     2  9 10 14
     2  9 11 12
     3  4  5 11
     3  4  7 16
     3  4  8 17
     3  4 12 15
     3  5  7  9
     3  5  8 12
     3  5 15 16
     3  6 10 17
     3  6 13 14
     3  7  8 15
     3  8 11 16
     3  9 11 17
     3  9 12 16
     3  9 16 17
     3 11 12 13
     4  5  6  7
     4  6  8 17
     4  6  9 10
     4  6 12 13
     4  7  8  9
     4  7 15 17
     4  8 10 15
     4 10 13 14
     4 11 12 16
     5  6 11 17
     5  6 12 15
     5  7 13 16
     5  8 10 16
     5  8 11 14
     5  9 12 13
     5  9 13 17
     5 10 14 17
     5 11 13 15
     6  7 10 11
     6  7 12 14
     6  7 14 16
     6  9 14 15
     6 12 15 16
     7  8 13 17
     7  9 12 17
     7  9 13 15
     7 11 14 15
     8  9 10 14
     8 10 11 12
     8 12 14 16
     9 10 11 15
     9 11 13 16
    10 13 16 17
    11 14 16 17
    12 13 14 15
    12 13 15 16
    12 13 15 17
    end 89 lines 3if4in17numbers guaranteed.

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      Posted: January 27, 2007, 9:59 pm - IP Logged

      BobP,

      Thanks for your posting. Just to make sure I have it straight. You advise using a Pick 6 wheel with 2 key numbers.  Normamally this kind of wheel would be used for playing the Florida Lotto right? The Florida Lotto requires 6 numbers be picked from a pool of 53 balls. Megamoney on the other hand requires 4 picks from a pool of 44 balls and one BONUS ball from a pool of 22 balls. 

      My goal is to get a 4 if 4 guarantee for playing only the four main numbers in Megamoney (I'm not involving the BONUS ball into the equation in order to simplify things).  I realize that the only sure way to get a 4 if 4 guarantee is by using a FULL wheel. But I would like to get the most bang for my buck and therefore I'm seeking for a balanced abbreviated wheel that would offer a 4 if 4 guarantee for the 4 main numbers in Megamoney.  If I use the Pick 6 wheel with 2 key numbers you suggest and then adopt it to MegaMoney playing, in reality I will have to eliminate one of the two KEY numbers, right? After doing this will the Pick 6 wheel you suggest still maintain a 4 if 4 guarantee? 

      I guess the best way I can pose my question is as follows: If you wanted a 4 if 4 guarantee to play the 4 main Megamoney numbers (leaving the BONUS ball out of it to keep things simple), and you had the resources to spend $100 to $140 for one optimum 4 if 4 wheel (that offered 8 to 17 numbers to play), what wheel would you use that will give you the most bang for the buck?  If you can post it like you did with your "3if4in17 wheel in 89 lines" wheel I would really appreciate it.  Look forward to hear back from you or from anyone else with any ideas.  THanks.

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        Posted: January 28, 2007, 2:17 am - IP Logged

        It takes 126 lines to guarantee 4if4of4in9numbers. 
        10 numbers takes 210 lines and 17 numbers takes 2,380 lines.

        Simply exchange your best picks for my place holder pointer numbers in the numbers below. You can copy and paste these lines into CoverMaster to make the exchange. 

        1 2 3 4
        1 2 3 5
        1 2 3 6
        1 2 3 7
        1 2 3 8
        1 2 3 9
        1 2 4 5
        1 2 4 6
        1 2 4 7
        1 2 4 8
        1 2 4 9
        1 2 5 6
        1 2 5 7
        1 2 5 8
        1 2 5 9
        1 2 6 7
        1 2 6 8
        1 2 6 9
        1 2 7 8
        1 2 7 9
        1 2 8 9
        1 3 4 5
        1 3 4 6
        1 3 4 7
        1 3 4 8
        1 3 4 9
        1 3 5 6
        1 3 5 7
        1 3 5 8
        1 3 5 9
        1 3 6 7
        1 3 6 8
        1 3 6 9
        1 3 7 8
        1 3 7 9
        1 3 8 9
        1 4 5 6
        1 4 5 7
        1 4 5 8
        1 4 5 9
        1 4 6 7
        1 4 6 8
        1 4 6 9
        1 4 7 8
        1 4 7 9
        1 4 8 9
        1 5 6 7
        1 5 6 8
        1 5 6 9
        1 5 7 8
        1 5 7 9
        1 5 8 9
        1 6 7 8
        1 6 7 9
        1 6 8 9
        1 7 8 9
        2 3 4 5
        2 3 4 6
        2 3 4 7
        2 3 4 8
        2 3 4 9
        2 3 5 6
        2 3 5 7
        2 3 5 8
        2 3 5 9
        2 3 6 7
        2 3 6 8
        2 3 6 9
        2 3 7 8
        2 3 7 9
        2 3 8 9
        2 4 5 6
        2 4 5 7
        2 4 5 8
        2 4 5 9
        2 4 6 7
        2 4 6 8
        2 4 6 9
        2 4 7 8
        2 4 7 9
        2 4 8 9
        2 5 6 7
        2 5 6 8
        2 5 6 9
        2 5 7 8
        2 5 7 9
        2 5 8 9
        2 6 7 8
        2 6 7 9
        2 6 8 9
        2 7 8 9
        3 4 5 6
        3 4 5 7
        3 4 5 8
        3 4 5 9
        3 4 6 7
        3 4 6 8
        3 4 6 9
        3 4 7 8
        3 4 7 9
        3 4 8 9
        3 5 6 7
        3 5 6 8
        3 5 6 9
        3 5 7 8
        3 5 7 9
        3 5 8 9
        3 6 7 8
        3 6 7 9
        3 6 8 9
        3 7 8 9
        4 5 6 7
        4 5 6 8
        4 5 6 9
        4 5 7 8
        4 5 7 9
        4 5 8 9
        4 6 7 8
        4 6 7 9
        4 6 8 9
        4 7 8 9
        5 6 7 8
        5 6 7 9
        5 6 8 9
        5 7 8 9
        6 7 8 9

        end 126 lines 4if4of4in9numbers is guaranteed  BobP
         

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          Posted: January 28, 2007, 2:13 pm - IP Logged

          BobP,

          Thanks for the post. Do you have a link to an old version of Covermaster that doesn't require a password?  The download at lottologix requires a password. I would like to dive into this app today since right now I have some free time. Thanks.

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            BobP,

            Thanks for the post. Do you have a link to an old version of Covermaster that doesn't require a password?  The download at lottologix requires a password. I would like to dive into this app today since right now I have some free time. Thanks.

            There are three CoverMaster links there. The older verison, the doc and the link to the password protected new version which you should get anyway because it's free.  However, CoverMaster does not make full wheels.  BobP

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              hi bob,

              my name is satish and I am from Bangalore-India and we have the lotto 649 there.

              can you teach me the secrets or techniques of winning lotto 6/49.if required i shall provide you the previous draw results.

              Anticipating an early reply from your end.

              regards,

              A winner is NOT one who NEVER FAILS, but one who NEVER QUITS.

              I Agree!

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                hi bob,

                my name is satish and I am from Bangalore-India and we have the lotto 649 there.

                can you teach me the secrets or techniques of winning lotto 6/49.if required i shall provide you the previous draw results.

                Anticipating an early reply from your end.

                regards,

                No matter how you position yourself in 649 lotto there are so many millions of possible outcomes winning is 90% pure luck.  If you want to learn more visit http://www.lotto-logix.com/ and on the articles page read my free book Lottery Concepts you'll learn a lot about playing lotto, but if there is a secret I remain a fellow seeker. BobP