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The sums in a p-3 game range from 0 to 27. This is of course the first sum only. There is another sum. The sum of a sum, when and if applicable. 

The sum 15 in the p-3  has so far been the highest hit sum in a very long back test study...a very long one among all states.

 To cover a little ground, it is suggested to just concentrate on betting on numbers that have a sum range between 13 thru 17.

In my humble pie opinion....Let the above be the last screening process in line. That will eliminate a lot of sets to be played.

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    I've seen this before but just haven't seen it reflected in results.

    Going back 30 days from today for Illinois Pick 3 there are only two results that add to 15, and that's with two drawings everyday except Sundays. So call a 30 day period four Subndays and you have 56 draws. 2 out of 56 isn't all that great. 

    "Magic squares" add up to 15, too, and I've seen them as suggested pick 3 plays but it just never happened for me, live play, or just tracking them.

    Magic square:

    8   1   6  

    3   5   7

    4   9   2 

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Hi pac,

      here is a list of the mathematical skip-averages of the sums,
      the higher the mathematical skip, the less straight numbers it represents.

      Sum Mathematical skip-average 
       0 1000
       1 333.33
       2 166.66
       3 100
       4 66.66
       5 47.61
       6 35.71
       7 27.77
       8 22.22
       9 18.18
       10 15.87
       11 14.49
       12 13.69
       13 13.33
       14 13.33
       15 13.69
       16 14.49
       17 15.87
       18 18.18
       19 22.22
       20 27.77
       21 35.71
       22 47.61
       23 66.66
       24 100
       25 166.66
       26 333.33
       27 1000

       

      Sums 13 & 14 are the sums that represents most numbers, and therefore will have a better "hit-average" than sum 15.

      sum 13:
      straight: 75 numbers:  049, 058, 067, 076, 085, 094, 139, 148, 157, 175, 184, 193, 238, 247, 256, 265, 274, 283, 319, 328, 346, 364, 382, 391, 409, 418, 427, 436, 463, 472, 481, 490, 508, 517, 526, 562, 571, 580, 607, 625, 634, 643, 652, 670, 706, 715, 724, 742, 751, 760, 805, 814, 823, 832, 841, 850, 904, 913, 931, 940
      166, 229, 292, 337, 355, 373, 445, 454, 535, 544, 553, 616, 661, 733, 922
      Box: 15 numbers: 049, 058, 067, 139, 148, 157, 238, 247, 256, 346
      229, 337, 445, 355, 166

      Sum 14:
      straight: 75 numbers:  059, 068, 086, 095, 149, 158, 167, 176, 185, 194, 239, 248, 257, 275, 284, 293, 329, 347, 356, 365, 374, 392, 419, 428, 437, 473, 482, 491, 509, 518, 527, 536, 563, 572, 581, 590, 608, 617, 635, 653, 671, 680, 716, 725, 734, 743, 752, 761, 806, 815, 824, 842, 851, 860, 905, 914, 923, 932, 941, 950
      077, 266, 338, 383, 446, 455, 464, 545, 554, 626, 644, 662, 707, 770, 833
      Box: 15 numbers: 059, 068, 149, 158, 167, 239, 248, 257, 347, 356
      338, 446, 455, 266, 077

      Sum 15:
      straight:  73 numbers: 069, 078, 087, 096, 159, 168, 186, 195, 249, 258, 267, 276, 285, 294, 348, 357, 375, 384, 429, 438, 456, 465, 483, 492, 519, 528, 537, 546, 564, 573, 582, 591, 609, 618, 627, 645, 654, 672, 681, 690, 708, 726, 735, 753, 762, 780, 807, 816, 825, 834, 843, 852, 861, 870, 906, 915, 924, 942, 951, 960
      177, 339, 366, 393, 447, 474, 636, 663, 717, 744, 771, 933
      555
      Box: 15 numbers: 069, 078, 159, 168, 249, 258, 267, 348, 357, 456
      339, 447, 366, 177
      555

      cheers
      Ricky

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        This is good info.. Thanks. Just wondering, I've done a search with no luck, is there a place where the sums for P-4 can be found?

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          Hi Jarsan

            Lookin the math forum you will see 5 star Degree of Certainty discussion with tables you can print out

           

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            Hi Jarsan

              Lookin the math forum you will see 5 star Degree of Certainty discussion with tables you can print out

             

            BigJer

            Big Jer. Thank You! jarasan

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              I love it when someone brings up sums. Check this out guys. Trac your pick 3 sums based on hits in 60 draws. Meaning, keep trac of a rotational flow of 60 draws with the sum counts. I usually do it in excel. Example: Find out the last 60 days worth of sums. Get all the hits on each one. Know, when the next draw comes in, record it but, also record the hit to hit. Meaning, if it has previously been hit 3 times prior then record a 3x-4x hit, on the sum. At the same token remove the 61st draw from your recordings. An extremely nice pattern will develop based on the hit to hit recordings. I've been getting more 4x-5x hit sums than most of anything else.

              For anyone who couldn't grasp this feel free to email me. I explained this kind of quick, (on break).

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                Hi pac,

                here is a list of the mathematical skip-averages of the sums,
                the higher the mathematical skip, the less straight numbers it represents.

                Sum Mathematical skip-average 
                 0 1000
                 1 333.33
                 2 166.66
                 3 100
                 4 66.66
                 5 47.61
                 6 35.71
                 7 27.77
                 8 22.22
                 9 18.18
                 10 15.87
                 11 14.49
                 12 13.69
                 13 13.33
                 14 13.33
                 15 13.69
                 16 14.49
                 17 15.87
                 18 18.18
                 19 22.22
                 20 27.77
                 21 35.71
                 22 47.61
                 23 66.66
                 24 100
                 25 166.66
                 26 333.33
                 27 1000

                 

                Sums 13 & 14 are the sums that represents most numbers, and therefore will have a better "hit-average" than sum 15.

                sum 13:
                straight: 75 numbers:  049, 058, 067, 076, 085, 094, 139, 148, 157, 175, 184, 193, 238, 247, 256, 265, 274, 283, 319, 328, 346, 364, 382, 391, 409, 418, 427, 436, 463, 472, 481, 490, 508, 517, 526, 562, 571, 580, 607, 625, 634, 643, 652, 670, 706, 715, 724, 742, 751, 760, 805, 814, 823, 832, 841, 850, 904, 913, 931, 940
                166, 229, 292, 337, 355, 373, 445, 454, 535, 544, 553, 616, 661, 733, 922
                Box: 15 numbers: 049, 058, 067, 139, 148, 157, 238, 247, 256, 346
                229, 337, 445, 355, 166

                Sum 14:
                straight: 75 numbers:  059, 068, 086, 095, 149, 158, 167, 176, 185, 194, 239, 248, 257, 275, 284, 293, 329, 347, 356, 365, 374, 392, 419, 428, 437, 473, 482, 491, 509, 518, 527, 536, 563, 572, 581, 590, 608, 617, 635, 653, 671, 680, 716, 725, 734, 743, 752, 761, 806, 815, 824, 842, 851, 860, 905, 914, 923, 932, 941, 950
                077, 266, 338, 383, 446, 455, 464, 545, 554, 626, 644, 662, 707, 770, 833
                Box: 15 numbers: 059, 068, 149, 158, 167, 239, 248, 257, 347, 356
                338, 446, 455, 266, 077

                Sum 15:
                straight:  73 numbers: 069, 078, 087, 096, 159, 168, 186, 195, 249, 258, 267, 276, 285, 294, 348, 357, 375, 384, 429, 438, 456, 465, 483, 492, 519, 528, 537, 546, 564, 573, 582, 591, 609, 618, 627, 645, 654, 672, 681, 690, 708, 726, 735, 753, 762, 780, 807, 816, 825, 834, 843, 852, 861, 870, 906, 915, 924, 942, 951, 960
                177, 339, 366, 393, 447, 474, 636, 663, 717, 744, 771, 933
                555
                Box: 15 numbers: 069, 078, 159, 168, 249, 258, 267, 348, 357, 456
                339, 447, 366, 177
                555

                cheers
                Ricky

                Ricky

                just showing the good sum 12,13,14,15 although this not quit deep like lotsoft pro version 3.2 or 3.5  which able to track 99 skip

                in last 100 draws FL have this fact

                 

                sum groups01020304050607080910total
                00..0311000000002
                04..0710110011027
                08..11313123540123
                12..15*351255015330
                16..19125421343227
                20..23110211102211
                24..2700000000000

                 

                i think sum 12, 13, 14, 15 good for 10 draws cycles although it break on last 80 to 90 draws ago

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                  This is good info.. Thanks. Just wondering, I've done a search with no luck, is there a place where the sums for P-4 can be found?

                  jarasan

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                    Hi pac,

                    here is a list of the mathematical skip-averages of the sums,
                    the higher the mathematical skip, the less straight numbers it represents.

                    Sum Mathematical skip-average 
                     0 1000
                     1 333.33
                     2 166.66
                     3 100
                     4 66.66
                     5 47.61
                     6 35.71
                     7 27.77
                     8 22.22
                     9 18.18
                     10 15.87
                     11 14.49
                     12 13.69
                     13 13.33
                     14 13.33
                     15 13.69
                     16 14.49
                     17 15.87
                     18 18.18
                     19 22.22
                     20 27.77
                     21 35.71
                     22 47.61
                     23 66.66
                     24 100
                     25 166.66
                     26 333.33
                     27 1000

                     

                    Sums 13 & 14 are the sums that represents most numbers, and therefore will have a better "hit-average" than sum 15.

                    sum 13:
                    straight: 75 numbers:  049, 058, 067, 076, 085, 094, 139, 148, 157, 175, 184, 193, 238, 247, 256, 265, 274, 283, 319, 328, 346, 364, 382, 391, 409, 418, 427, 436, 463, 472, 481, 490, 508, 517, 526, 562, 571, 580, 607, 625, 634, 643, 652, 670, 706, 715, 724, 742, 751, 760, 805, 814, 823, 832, 841, 850, 904, 913, 931, 940
                    166, 229, 292, 337, 355, 373, 445, 454, 535, 544, 553, 616, 661, 733, 922
                    Box: 15 numbers: 049, 058, 067, 139, 148, 157, 238, 247, 256, 346
                    229, 337, 445, 355, 166

                    Sum 14:
                    straight: 75 numbers:  059, 068, 086, 095, 149, 158, 167, 176, 185, 194, 239, 248, 257, 275, 284, 293, 329, 347, 356, 365, 374, 392, 419, 428, 437, 473, 482, 491, 509, 518, 527, 536, 563, 572, 581, 590, 608, 617, 635, 653, 671, 680, 716, 725, 734, 743, 752, 761, 806, 815, 824, 842, 851, 860, 905, 914, 923, 932, 941, 950
                    077, 266, 338, 383, 446, 455, 464, 545, 554, 626, 644, 662, 707, 770, 833
                    Box: 15 numbers: 059, 068, 149, 158, 167, 239, 248, 257, 347, 356
                    338, 446, 455, 266, 077

                    Sum 15:
                    straight:  73 numbers: 069, 078, 087, 096, 159, 168, 186, 195, 249, 258, 267, 276, 285, 294, 348, 357, 375, 384, 429, 438, 456, 465, 483, 492, 519, 528, 537, 546, 564, 573, 582, 591, 609, 618, 627, 645, 654, 672, 681, 690, 708, 726, 735, 753, 762, 780, 807, 816, 825, 834, 843, 852, 861, 870, 906, 915, 924, 942, 951, 960
                    177, 339, 366, 393, 447, 474, 636, 663, 717, 744, 771, 933
                    555
                    Box: 15 numbers: 069, 078, 159, 168, 249, 258, 267, 348, 357, 456
                    339, 447, 366, 177
                    555

                    cheers
                    Ricky

                    Thanx paurths. It's good to know that 15 wasn't all that was added up to be...LOL

                    I'm gonna focus more on 14 or 13.

                    I appreciate you taking the time.