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Posted: May 16, 2007, 2:17 pm - IP Logged

I've noticed more and more how each new "system" that comes along requires MORE and MORE numbers be played in order to make the "system" work. Just a while ago I was in the Pick-3 forum and pulled up no less than 10 different posts that give "50" or more numbers to be played in all states......Well Duh, I think they'll get some hits. For the single state players this makes absolutely no sense mathematically!! And I personally don't know anyone that has the bankroll necessary to play 50 different numbers EVERY night in EVERY state. My theory is that I would rather use something that uses 8 or less numbers per night in order to win (much easier to profit this way). Sure, you might not win as often, but with even a halfway decent system, you should stay in the black this way....(Rick G, if you are reading this, I especially like the way you think). Anyway, just had to get that off my chest and I'll get off my soapbox now. Oh by the way, here are my numbers for tonight (might not be a ton of winners here, but with even ONE hit, I'm playing at a profit):

432 - 438 - 482 - 488 - 632 - 638 - 682 - 688

As always, good luck to all.

    reddog's avatar - patch
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    Posted: May 16, 2007, 8:52 pm - IP Logged

    I've noticed more and more how each new "system" that comes along requires MORE and MORE numbers be played in order to make the "system" work. Just a while ago I was in the Pick-3 forum and pulled up no less than 10 different posts that give "50" or more numbers to be played in all states......Well Duh, I think they'll get some hits. For the single state players this makes absolutely no sense mathematically!! And I personally don't know anyone that has the bankroll necessary to play 50 different numbers EVERY night in EVERY state. My theory is that I would rather use something that uses 8 or less numbers per night in order to win (much easier to profit this way). Sure, you might not win as often, but with even a halfway decent system, you should stay in the black this way....(Rick G, if you are reading this, I especially like the way you think). Anyway, just had to get that off my chest and I'll get off my soapbox now. Oh by the way, here are my numbers for tonight (might not be a ton of winners here, but with even ONE hit, I'm playing at a profit):

    432 - 438 - 482 - 488 - 632 - 638 - 682 - 688

    As always, good luck to all.

    I hear ya, Shaun.Yes Nod

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      Posted: May 16, 2007, 9:15 pm - IP Logged

      MORE numbers be played in order to make the "system" work.

      Some may do that until

      they can id the pattern.

      One learns to be selective

      when playing though.

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        Posted: May 16, 2007, 9:23 pm - IP Logged

        Within 5 consecutive draws in Missouri

        014, 018, 019, 036, 046, 068, 126, 127, 135, 136, 145, 149, 158, 167, 189, 356, 369, 468, 469, 567, 568, 689
        001, 113, 117, 118, 122, 226, 144, 446, 266, 667, 199
        666

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          Posted: May 16, 2007, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

          they>>>>>MUST have a Party cambra>>>>>?????????

          in......Wal Mart...watch'g

          uuuuuuuuuu-too!!!

          LOL

          PSYKOMO

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            Posted: May 16, 2007, 10:31 pm - IP Logged

            they>>>>>MUST have a Party cambra>>>>>?????????

            in......Wal Mart...watch'g

            uuuuuuuuuu-too!!!

            LOL

            PSYKOMO

            MABY it JUST take'sssssssssssssss.....more BALL'SSSSSSSSSSSS

            to>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"WIN" a lotto R lottery?????

            these day'sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss>>>>WHATaaH THINK??

            THEY keep chan'g the ball sets.......maby, they HEAT the (new-sets) BALLs-UP????????????????????????????????????????????????????

            MABY, they COOL them (new ball-set's-up & down)>>>>><<<<<< BALLs-DOWN<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<??????????????????

            MABY, they can change the???????????????????????????????????? MATRIX>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            MABY, they WHO control's the BALL's>>>>>know how to (make $) control>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...........the "MONEY"!!!!!!

            LOL.....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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              Posted: May 16, 2007, 11:12 pm - IP Logged

              I hear ya, Shaun.Yes Nod

              There's nothing wrong with a "system" requiring more combinations if it works better, that is if the number of hits per combinations played is improved or the the real cost of playing is reduced by winning more. 

              If a system wins more than it cost to play then it doesn't matter how many combinations it needs to work, but so far no one has ever discussed or presented such a system. 

              I think members post large groups of numbers to play for the same reason others make over 5,000 predictions every day, they want bragging rights about picking a winning combination.  As one member who posted he had predicted several 4/5 winners last month pointed out "a win is a win even I did make 8,000 predictions a day to get them".

              I figure most members post systems for the same reasons they post predictions, just for fun.  One should take a good look at either before taking them seriously.
               

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Posted: May 17, 2007, 7:10 am - IP Logged

                I've noticed more and more how each new "system" that comes along requires MORE and MORE numbers be played in order to make the "system" work. Just a while ago I was in the Pick-3 forum and pulled up no less than 10 different posts that give "50" or more numbers to be played in all states......Well Duh, I think they'll get some hits. For the single state players this makes absolutely no sense mathematically!! And I personally don't know anyone that has the bankroll necessary to play 50 different numbers EVERY night in EVERY state. My theory is that I would rather use something that uses 8 or less numbers per night in order to win (much easier to profit this way). Sure, you might not win as often, but with even a halfway decent system, you should stay in the black this way....(Rick G, if you are reading this, I especially like the way you think). Anyway, just had to get that off my chest and I'll get off my soapbox now. Oh by the way, here are my numbers for tonight (might not be a ton of winners here, but with even ONE hit, I'm playing at a profit):

                432 - 438 - 482 - 488 - 632 - 638 - 682 - 688

                As always, good luck to all.

                Thanks for the comment, Shawn.  There is only one winning combo per draw...every other combo we play is a loser and cuts into our profit margin.  To play forty picks a draw and profit on pick 3, one must hit almost every draw or get a lot of straights to cover the cost of the thirty-nine losing combos every draw.

                To play fifty-five different drawings a day using the same set of forty combos will guarantee hits but not long-term profit.  The prediction board stats reflect that.

                I've tried all state predicting and it was a fast track down the stats ladder.  Some seem to do well at it, but  making a long-term profit at it is a tough nut to crack.

                This subject has come up before...what is the optimum number of combos to play per draw?  From what I've seen and read here and in real life experience,  most of us seem to be comfortable with a max of ten picks per draw in the daily games.  Many non-premium members who are limited to the ten picks per draw have better stats than those who post more. 

                Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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                  Posted: May 17, 2007, 3:39 pm - IP Logged

                  Very long ago when I posted some predictions  on this and on the pick 3 forums most of them were 1 state predictions, i once posted all state predictions on the pick 3 forum (I think) and didn't do so bad, but they were about 25 or 35 or so numbers, I can't remember, the first few draws had a lot of winning numbers and some straight, they were the same numbers for every draw, after a few draws the numbers were no longer good.

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                  Yes, unless the all states numbers are just a few, it might be better to just predict for 1 state for a given set of numbers.

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                  Well I myself have not tried to predict for so long, that I no longer can.

                  This year maybe soon I will try to re-learn how to predict almost from the very beginning, but I will no longer post Tx predictions, I might try to do other states.

                  I might try Ga, Fl, Pa, Nc, Ny and Sc.

                  It might take me quite a while and very many  predictions to re-learn.

                  I will try to start on June sometime and the predictions will be  on the pick 3 forum, I might even try all states sometime later.

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                    Posted: May 17, 2007, 4:19 pm - IP Logged

                    Very long ago when I posted some predictions  on this and on the pick 3 forums most of them were 1 state predictions, i once posted all state predictions on the pick 3 forum (I think) and didn't do so bad, but they were about 25 or 35 or so numbers, I can't remember, the first few draws had a lot of winning numbers and some straight, they were the same numbers for every draw, after a few draws the numbers were no longer good.

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                    Yes, unless the all states numbers are just a few, it might be better to just predict for 1 state for a given set of numbers.

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                    Well I myself have not tried to predict for so long, that I no longer can.

                    This year maybe soon I will try to re-learn how to predict almost from the very beginning, but I will no longer post Tx predictions, I might try to do other states.

                    I might try Ga, Fl, Pa, Nc, Ny and Sc.

                    It might take me quite a while and very many  predictions to re-learn.

                    I will try to start on June sometime and the predictions will be  on the pick 3 forum, I might even try all states sometime later.

                    What do you think you need to know to predict numbers?  If you're playing the lotteries and picking numbers you think will win then you're predicting.  If you're winning as much as you're spending or more then you're good at it.

                    When members post numbers for their state or states that they play I take their predictions more seriously then when they post for all states in general.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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