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Posted: July 9, 2007, 12:01 am - IP Logged

I am wondering what is the best way to determine overdue numbers in IL pick 3 and for how long should those numbers be palyed?

 

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    Posted: July 9, 2007, 2:14 am - IP Logged

    I am wondering what is the best way to determine overdue numbers in IL pick 3 and for how long should those numbers be palyed?

     

    Thank you 

    To be clear, we're taking about the 1,000 straight numbers, not boxed numbers or the individual digits.  

    There is no such thing as an overdue number.  Pick-3 games can go for many years without some numbers being drawn.  You would quickly become broke wasting your money on  numbers not being drawn while other numbers are being drawn fairly often.  There is always a distribution, a third being "hot" a third being "average" and a third being "cold" or "dead" where some of the "hot" will have been drawn a dozen times while "cold" to "dead" having been drawn once or not at all.  There is no force that brings these numbers to the top.  The one thing to be aware of is when the state disposes of the old ballsets and replaces them with a new collection.  From that date forward two thirds of the previous patterns will change.  That might be a time for the dead to rise!

    BobP

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      To be clear, we're taking about the 1,000 straight numbers, not boxed numbers or the individual digits.  

      There is no such thing as an overdue number.  Pick-3 games can go for many years without some numbers being drawn.  You would quickly become broke wasting your money on  numbers not being drawn while other numbers are being drawn fairly often.  There is always a distribution, a third being "hot" a third being "average" and a third being "cold" or "dead" where some of the "hot" will have been drawn a dozen times while "cold" to "dead" having been drawn once or not at all.  There is no force that brings these numbers to the top.  The one thing to be aware of is when the state disposes of the old ballsets and replaces them with a new collection.  From that date forward two thirds of the previous patterns will change.  That might be a time for the dead to rise!

      BobP

      Playing 1 number, straight, is... a shot in the thousand...

      However, "overdue structures" (a collection of numbers) will come in eventually, sooner or later (hopefully sooner), and playing them in a progression betting will bring $$$!
      See what digits are "hot", and compare them to the "missing/overdue structures", if they match, i start playing them, and i don't stop until the day they come in!

      lasas3

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        Posted: July 9, 2007, 5:54 am - IP Logged

        Playing 1 number, straight, is... a shot in the thousand...

        However, "overdue structures" (a collection of numbers) will come in eventually, sooner or later (hopefully sooner), and playing them in a progression betting will bring $$$!
        See what digits are "hot", and compare them to the "missing/overdue structures", if they match, i start playing them, and i don't stop until the day they come in!

        sooo true, I couldn't agree more. I match hot number with missing pairs is the way  Fla. numbers come out most of the time & following the trend for each month. Good to see u post, paurths, just wanted to say hi.

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          Posted: July 9, 2007, 12:13 pm - IP Logged

          I am wondering what is the best way to determine overdue numbers in IL pick 3 and for how long should those numbers be palyed?

           

          Thank you 

          I don't know that it's the best way, but you could make a chart that puts the digits into the order in which they fell. It's different than a hit/skip chart because it doesn't show how long it's been since a digit hit, but it shows that over time, some digits remain at the bottom third of the chart for long periods of time.

          468

          146153411132278470457865279
          840468446153411132238270457865
          O04800868846853411112138270457
          775O74O00O68O46853851812138130
          316715774700768O46O43O41O12O18
          951351315374300760766763741742
          233933931935974304304306303301
          522222222222225925925924926923
          687587587587587587587585584586
          199699699699699699699699699694

          This is what the Ohio Evening Pick-3 looked like during a 10 draw period. The digits in the first row are the actual number that hit but you need to look at a 30-50 draw period to get the full effect of how digits work their way down the chart.

          199

          189718595677480757761286630
          O42O92189718595677480457761286
          751741O92189718595675680457761
          964954941O42189718598575670457
          806866854951O42149119198595575
          327307366864951O52O42O19118198
          483423407306864961961942O49O19
          575575523427306804804804902942
          210210275273423326326326824804
          638638630630230233233233333

          323

          Occasionally you'll see where 3 digits like 630 made their way to the bottom of the chart and where drawn together a few days later. However I know of no consistent way to predict when this will happen.

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            Posted: July 10, 2007, 12:27 am - IP Logged

            Playing 1 number, straight, is... a shot in the thousand...

            However, "overdue structures" (a collection of numbers) will come in eventually, sooner or later (hopefully sooner), and playing them in a progression betting will bring $$$!
            See what digits are "hot", and compare them to the "missing/overdue structures", if they match, i start playing them, and i don't stop until the day they come in!

            THANKs paurths........................for your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>INPUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            overdue does count 1 2 3 4 or 5 games behind BUT, today is the day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

            & ........................what ODK do you CHOO$$$$$$$$$$$$$$E?????????

            for the DAY your betslip HITsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssthe LINE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

            MIX'g HOT-COLD or overdue is still LUCK??????????????????????????

            can YOU put any SCIENCE to the METAL on this WONNNNNNNNNNN??>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

            LOL

            PSYKOMO 

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              THANKs paurths........................for your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>INPUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              overdue does count 1 2 3 4 or 5 games behind BUT, today is the day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

              & ........................what ODK do you CHOO$$$$$$$$$$$$$$E?????????

              for the DAY your betslip HITsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssthe LINE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

              MIX'g HOT-COLD or overdue is still LUCK??????????????????????????

              can YOU put any SCIENCE to the METAL on this WONNNNNNNNNNN??>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

              LOL

              PSYKOMO 

              Science?

              There's no science to it.
              Patience, and a bankroll will do.

              One more thing; look for states that are missing doubles (no double for at least 10 draws per state)
              Find the best performing 3-Digit-Serie, find the longest out doubles and play 20 of them that have at least 1 digit from the 3-D-Serie.
              Just test it out, you'll very soon see what i mean.

              cheers
              Ricky

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                Posted: July 10, 2007, 7:48 pm - IP Logged

                I don't know that it's the best way, but you could make a chart that puts the digits into the order in which they fell. It's different than a hit/skip chart because it doesn't show how long it's been since a digit hit, but it shows that over time, some digits remain at the bottom third of the chart for long periods of time.

                468

                146153411132278470457865279
                840468446153411132238270457865
                O04800868846853411112138270457
                775O74O00O68O46853851812138130
                316715774700768O46O43O41O12O18
                951351315374300760766763741742
                233933931935974304304306303301
                522222222222225925925924926923
                687587587587587587587585584586
                199699699699699699699699699694

                This is what the Ohio Evening Pick-3 looked like during a 10 draw period. The digits in the first row are the actual number that hit but you need to look at a 30-50 draw period to get the full effect of how digits work their way down the chart.

                199

                189718595677480757761286630
                O42O92189718595677480457761286
                751741O92189718595675680457761
                964954941O42189718598575670457
                806866854951O42149119198595575
                327307366864951O52O42O19118198
                483423407306864961961942O49O19
                575575523427306804804804902942
                210210275273423326326326824804
                638638630630230233233233333

                323

                Occasionally you'll see where 3 digits like 630 made their way to the bottom of the chart and where drawn together a few days later. However I know of no consistent way to predict when this will happen.

                My friend the best way to determine the best way to play a number is to look up that number in your state's lottery system. It will give you the frequency, dates,  and which way it falls the most in your state. Some  numbers  like certain  dates,  some  like  certain days,  and some  like  a  particular  month.  I hope this  helps. See Ya!

                 

                 

                 

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                  My friend the best way to determine the best way to play a number is to look up that number in your state's lottery system. It will give you the frequency, dates,  and which way it falls the most in your state. Some  numbers  like certain  dates,  some  like  certain days,  and some  like  a  particular  month.  I hope this  helps. See Ya!

                  Sar asked for the "best way to determine overdue numbers" and I offered a method that tracks the digits. If Sar meant the numbers 000-999, my chart probably won't help them.

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                    Posted: July 11, 2007, 12:34 pm - IP Logged

                    I am wondering what is the best way to determine overdue numbers in IL pick 3 and for how long should those numbers be palyed?

                     

                    Thank you 

                    One way.

                    1. Take the last X draws (100-1000). For practical reasons I prefer to work with 120-200 draws

                    2. Use LP's deflate feature on the numbers

                    3. Check Box--"deflate all boxed numbers minus above"

                    4. Results are "due" numbers  boxed...

                    $$$

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                      Posted: July 11, 2007, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

                      what is LP deflate feature? 

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                        what is LP deflate feature? 

                        If you become a Lottery Post member, you will have access to P3 & P4  deflate feature & inspector 3 & 4 number set analysis in the blue tool bar above.  They have lots of number analysis info there for whatever state you are playing.  There is a pair chart in the inspector 3 set analysis that tell you how many times each pair have hit if that is what you are looking for.   Good Luck!