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I am wondering what is the best way to determine overdue numbers in IL pick 3 and for how long should those numbers be palyed?

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I am wondering what is the best way to determine overdue numbers in IL pick 3 and for how long should those numbers be palyed?

Thank you

To be clear, we're taking about the 1,000 straight numbers, not boxed numbers or the individual digits.

There is no such thing as an overdue number.  Pick-3 games can go for many years without some numbers being drawn.  You would quickly become broke wasting your money on  numbers not being drawn while other numbers are being drawn fairly often.  There is always a distribution, a third being "hot" a third being "average" and a third being "cold" or "dead" where some of the "hot" will have been drawn a dozen times while "cold" to "dead" having been drawn once or not at all.  There is no force that brings these numbers to the top.  The one thing to be aware of is when the state disposes of the old ballsets and replaces them with a new collection.  From that date forward two thirds of the previous patterns will change.  That might be a time for the dead to rise!

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To be clear, we're taking about the 1,000 straight numbers, not boxed numbers or the individual digits.

There is no such thing as an overdue number.  Pick-3 games can go for many years without some numbers being drawn.  You would quickly become broke wasting your money on  numbers not being drawn while other numbers are being drawn fairly often.  There is always a distribution, a third being "hot" a third being "average" and a third being "cold" or "dead" where some of the "hot" will have been drawn a dozen times while "cold" to "dead" having been drawn once or not at all.  There is no force that brings these numbers to the top.  The one thing to be aware of is when the state disposes of the old ballsets and replaces them with a new collection.  From that date forward two thirds of the previous patterns will change.  That might be a time for the dead to rise!

BobP

Playing 1 number, straight, is... a shot in the thousand...

However, "overdue structures" (a collection of numbers) will come in eventually, sooner or later (hopefully sooner), and playing them in a progression betting will bring \$\$\$!
See what digits are "hot", and compare them to the "missing/overdue structures", if they match, i start playing them, and i don't stop until the day they come in!

lasas3

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Playing 1 number, straight, is... a shot in the thousand...

However, "overdue structures" (a collection of numbers) will come in eventually, sooner or later (hopefully sooner), and playing them in a progression betting will bring \$\$\$!
See what digits are "hot", and compare them to the "missing/overdue structures", if they match, i start playing them, and i don't stop until the day they come in!

sooo true, I couldn't agree more. I match hot number with missing pairs is the way  Fla. numbers come out most of the time & following the trend for each month. Good to see u post, paurths, just wanted to say hi.

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I am wondering what is the best way to determine overdue numbers in IL pick 3 and for how long should those numbers be palyed?

Thank you

I don't know that it's the best way, but you could make a chart that puts the digits into the order in which they fell. It's different than a hit/skip chart because it doesn't show how long it's been since a digit hit, but it shows that over time, some digits remain at the bottom third of the chart for long periods of time.

 468 146 153 411 132 278 470 457 865 279 840 468 446 153 411 132 238 270 457 865 O04 800 868 846 853 411 112 138 270 457 775 O74 O00 O68 O46 853 851 812 138 130 316 715 774 700 768 O46 O43 O41 O12 O18 951 351 315 374 300 760 766 763 741 742 233 933 931 935 974 304 304 306 303 301 522 222 222 222 225 925 925 924 926 923 687 587 587 587 587 587 587 585 584 586 199 699 699 699 699 699 699 699 699 694

This is what the Ohio Evening Pick-3 looked like during a 10 draw period. The digits in the first row are the actual number that hit but you need to look at a 30-50 draw period to get the full effect of how digits work their way down the chart.

 199 189 718 595 677 480 757 761 286 630 O42 O92 189 718 595 677 480 457 761 286 751 741 O92 189 718 595 675 680 457 761 964 954 941 O42 189 718 598 575 670 457 806 866 854 951 O42 149 119 198 595 575 327 307 366 864 951 O52 O42 O19 118 198 483 423 407 306 864 961 961 942 O49 O19 575 575 523 427 306 804 804 804 902 942 210 210 275 273 423 326 326 326 824 804 638 638 630 630 230 233 233 233 333 323

Occasionally you'll see where 3 digits like 630 made their way to the bottom of the chart and where drawn together a few days later. However I know of no consistent way to predict when this will happen.

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 Posted: July 10, 2007, 12:27 am - IP Logged

Playing 1 number, straight, is... a shot in the thousand...

However, "overdue structures" (a collection of numbers) will come in eventually, sooner or later (hopefully sooner), and playing them in a progression betting will bring \$\$\$!
See what digits are "hot", and compare them to the "missing/overdue structures", if they match, i start playing them, and i don't stop until the day they come in!

overdue does count 1 2 3 4 or 5 games behind BUT, today is the day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

& ........................what ODK do you CHOO\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$E?????????

for the DAY your betslip HITsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssthe LINE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

MIX'g HOT-COLD or overdue is still LUCK??????????????????????????

can YOU put any SCIENCE to the METAL on this WONNNNNNNNNNN??>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LOL

PSYKOMO

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overdue does count 1 2 3 4 or 5 games behind BUT, today is the day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

& ........................what ODK do you CHOO\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$\$E?????????

for the DAY your betslip HITsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssthe LINE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

MIX'g HOT-COLD or overdue is still LUCK??????????????????????????

can YOU put any SCIENCE to the METAL on this WONNNNNNNNNNN??>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LOL

PSYKOMO

Science?

There's no science to it.
Patience, and a bankroll will do.

One more thing; look for states that are missing doubles (no double for at least 10 draws per state)
Find the best performing 3-Digit-Serie, find the longest out doubles and play 20 of them that have at least 1 digit from the 3-D-Serie.
Just test it out, you'll very soon see what i mean.

cheers
Ricky

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I don't know that it's the best way, but you could make a chart that puts the digits into the order in which they fell. It's different than a hit/skip chart because it doesn't show how long it's been since a digit hit, but it shows that over time, some digits remain at the bottom third of the chart for long periods of time.

 468 146 153 411 132 278 470 457 865 279 840 468 446 153 411 132 238 270 457 865 O04 800 868 846 853 411 112 138 270 457 775 O74 O00 O68 O46 853 851 812 138 130 316 715 774 700 768 O46 O43 O41 O12 O18 951 351 315 374 300 760 766 763 741 742 233 933 931 935 974 304 304 306 303 301 522 222 222 222 225 925 925 924 926 923 687 587 587 587 587 587 587 585 584 586 199 699 699 699 699 699 699 699 699 694

This is what the Ohio Evening Pick-3 looked like during a 10 draw period. The digits in the first row are the actual number that hit but you need to look at a 30-50 draw period to get the full effect of how digits work their way down the chart.

 199 189 718 595 677 480 757 761 286 630 O42 O92 189 718 595 677 480 457 761 286 751 741 O92 189 718 595 675 680 457 761 964 954 941 O42 189 718 598 575 670 457 806 866 854 951 O42 149 119 198 595 575 327 307 366 864 951 O52 O42 O19 118 198 483 423 407 306 864 961 961 942 O49 O19 575 575 523 427 306 804 804 804 902 942 210 210 275 273 423 326 326 326 824 804 638 638 630 630 230 233 233 233 333 323

Occasionally you'll see where 3 digits like 630 made their way to the bottom of the chart and where drawn together a few days later. However I know of no consistent way to predict when this will happen.

My friend the best way to determine the best way to play a number is to look up that number in your state's lottery system. It will give you the frequency, dates,  and which way it falls the most in your state. Some  numbers  like certain  dates,  some  like  certain days,  and some  like  a  particular  month.  I hope this  helps.

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My friend the best way to determine the best way to play a number is to look up that number in your state's lottery system. It will give you the frequency, dates,  and which way it falls the most in your state. Some  numbers  like certain  dates,  some  like  certain days,  and some  like  a  particular  month.  I hope this  helps.

Sar asked for the "best way to determine overdue numbers" and I offered a method that tracks the digits. If Sar meant the numbers 000-999, my chart probably won't help them.

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I am wondering what is the best way to determine overdue numbers in IL pick 3 and for how long should those numbers be palyed?

Thank you

One way.

1. Take the last X draws (100-1000). For practical reasons I prefer to work with 120-200 draws

2. Use LP's deflate feature on the numbers

3. Check Box--"deflate all boxed numbers minus above"

4. Results are "due" numbers  boxed...

\$\$\$

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what is LP deflate feature?

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what is LP deflate feature?

If you become a Lottery Post member, you will have access to P3 & P4  deflate feature & inspector 3 & 4 number set analysis in the blue tool bar above.  They have lots of number analysis info there for whatever state you are playing.  There is a pair chart in the inspector 3 set analysis that tell you how many times each pair have hit if that is what you are looking for.   Good Luck!

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