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# (Sort Of) New Concept

Topic closed. 2 replies. Last post 9 years ago by Coin Toss.

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 Posted: August 4, 2007, 11:52 pm - IP Logged

A twist on the keno concept, the object here being matching as few numbers as possible, with matching nothing winning the jackpot, or top prize, or car, or whatever a lottery wants to give away. But just so no one feels stiffed if they match all of the numbers (it's easier than you think), there is prize for that too. I'm going to give an example of a 10-20-30 matrix, and how it would work:

Player picks 10 numbers from a field of 30, the lottery then draws 20 numbered balls from a field of 30.

A players wins by matching 4 or less of the numbers drawn to the numbers on their ticket. If player matches no numbers at all, they win the jackpot, averaging \$7.29mil (cash value). Players can also win a prize for matching all 10 numbers.

 Match Prize Odds 0 Jackpot 1:30,045,015 1 \$5,000 1:150,225.1 2 \$150 1:3,514.0 3 \$15 1:219.6 4 \$3 1:29.5 10 \$10 1:162.6

Overall odds : 1:22.293; Overall prize return : 55%

This doesn't only work for jackpot games though, it can also work for daily, fixed payout games, like this 7-12-19:

Players select 7 numbers from a field of 19, the lottery selects 12 of the 19.

Players win by matching 2 or less of the "winning" numbers, or by matching all 7.

 Match Prize Odds 0 \$10,000 1:50,388 1 \$100 1:599.9 2 \$5 1:36.4 7 \$5 1:63.6

Overall odds : 1:22.266; Overall prize return : 58.12892%

So, what do you think?

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 Posted: August 8, 2007, 1:30 pm - IP Logged

Those were tough odds. Which states have this type of game jackpot?

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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 Posted: August 8, 2007, 8:03 pm - IP Logged

Vegas actually did a test run on Reverse Keno once.

80 numbers in the bowl (back in the days of balls) - 60 were drawn out, 20 stayed in, and the ones that stayed in were the numbers that detrmined payoffs.

The odds were exactly the same as Keno (of course) so it was ok with the Nevada Gaming Commision, I think it didn;t go over to big with the players - and the callers must have hated it!

Before it actually happened we used to joke about something like that- tickets on black paper that you marked with white crayons, etc....

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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