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Pick 3 - Short Sums Math

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Posted: August 23, 2007, 10:32 am - IP Logged

Ok when would it be a good time to play Pick 3 "Short Sums" or "Left Digit Sums"

Short Sum 0 = Sums 0,10,20

            1 = Sums 1,11,21

            2 = Sums 2,12,22

            3 = Sums 3,13,23

            4 = Sums 4,14,24

            5 = Sums 5,15,25

            6 = Sums 6,16,26

            7 = Sums 7,17,27

            8 = Sums 8,18

            9 = Sums 9,19

If a state has 3 Short Sums 20 skips or more at the same time??

For example Delaware Midday only drawing:

Midday

 

30
26
21
DE3M
3
4
7

Delaware has Short Sums 3 @ 30 skips, 4 @ 26 skips, and 7 @ 21 skips


Below are the remaining midday state that have the same:

 

46
29
27
IN3M
0
3
5

Evening Only States:

 

64
21
20
ID3E
8
4
2

 

32
27
25
NM3E
9
0
6

 

27
21
20
WA3E
5
9
6

 

70
24
23
DC3E
3
6
4

Combined  Midday & Evening Drawings:

 

28
22
20
DE3C
0
8
3

 

31
26
21
NJ3C
5
8
9

 

31
28
20
VA3C
2
8
7

 

66
32
28
DC3C
3
5
4

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So out of a possible 10 Midday States there are 2 occurances

                      10 Combined (Midday & Evening) there are 4 occurances

                      36 Evening States there are 4 occurances

So 10 occurances out of a total of 56 possible state drawings

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Would you consider this a good play when you have 3 or more short sums @ 20 or more skips or 

                                                        3 or more short sums @ 30 or more skips??

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    Posted: August 23, 2007, 11:21 am - IP Logged

      Winsum..... Great questions! 

       I have learned that things that worked for me most of the time in my state for years ....don't work in others and it drives me nuts. A lot of these games were Abused as children ....or something. They don't react normally or respond in a expected manner. They are not always...POLITE.  LOL   

      Bottom line is ..... I have gone back in forth on this. I have always said they can hide one thing..and they may be able to hide 2 things...... But they can't hide 3 things very long at all.  

      Looking at those great research examples you worked out .....  whats the best way to measure them?  My back and forth is this.

        The DE example.

          30

          26

          21 

          77    ......      total days out for all 3 short sums    Should we look at the totals for all 3 sums?  or  should we just consider the last or least out sum as the guide? 

          In other words ..... should we just consider that all 3 sums are all out only..... 21 draws?? 

     

        Another of your examples .....

          DC  66

                32

                28

               116  draws out for all 3 sums    or consider that all are only out 28 draws? Total 

     

     

          My inclination is to say.... they are all 3 out only 28 draws.........but...  You have to allow some special consideration for that 66 day skip monster right? I dont know how to best deal with that sort of unbalance .......  

       

     

     

    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                           Win d    

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      Posted: August 23, 2007, 4:22 pm - IP Logged

       Just in case ...... anyone wants to considerPlaying at the  DC combined out Short Sums 3,,5,,and 4  because they are all out at least ..... 28 draws.. here you go.

       

        All 3 of those short sums contain 12 singles per..... so 36 boxes x 6 = 216 straights

          and each of the short sums contain....27 double boxes ....so 27 x3 = 81 straight doubles

                                                          Plus...........................=  3 trips

                                                                              ==========

                                                                         300 straights missing 28 draws

       

            So ....missing 30% for 28 draws .....normal average is every 3 or 4 draws

              That means DC combined is running about ..... 8.5 times over due....   and most groups never make it to or past 6 times their average.

       

       

      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                             Win d    

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        Posted: August 24, 2007, 10:05 am - IP Logged

        WinD,

        Thanks for your input.

        Midday states Delaware and Indiana hit "1" of the 3 sums

        Midday today there is a new State: California Midday (Only state from all 20 psoibilities)

         

        30
        22
        20
        CA3M
        0
        2
        3
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          Posted: August 24, 2007, 10:08 am - IP Logged

          Evening States (Does not include Combined)

          DC was the only state that hit:

          New state is Kansas

           

          26
          23
          22
          KS3E
          3
          9
          8

          Previous States:

           

          65
          22
          20
          ID3E
          8
          4
          2

           

          33
          28
          26
          NM3E
          9
          0
          6

           

          28
          22
          21
          WA3E
          5
          9
          6
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            Posted: August 24, 2007, 10:12 am - IP Logged

            Combined draws:

            Delaware and Virginia both hit:

            New Jersey and DC did not.

            No new states added.

            Current States:

             

            33
            28
            23
            NJ3C
            5
            8
            9

             

             

            68
            34
            30
            DC3C
            3
            5
            4

             

            Interesting to see DC - all 3 sums out at least 30 draws.  Wonder how long this will go on?? 

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              Posted: August 26, 2007, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

              Sunday Midday States:

               

              31
              24
              20
              MO3M
              3
              8
              0

               

               

              54
              47
              21
              OH3M
              7
              3
              4
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                Posted: August 26, 2007, 2:42 pm - IP Logged

                Sunday Combined Midday & Evening:

                 

                48
                34
                21
                IN3C
                0
                7
                9

                 

                 

                38
                36
                21
                MD3C
                7
                3
                1

                 

                 

                37
                32
                27
                NJ3C
                5
                8
                9
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                  Posted: August 26, 2007, 2:45 pm - IP Logged

                  Evening States:

                  Amazingly no Evening only states with 3 short sums 20 or more draws. 

                  Both Ohio and Missouri HIT Midday Sunday Midday 

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                    Evening States:

                    Amazingly no Evening only states with 3 short sums 20 or more draws. 

                    Both Ohio and Missouri HIT Midday Sunday Midday 

                     Guess that means 20 skips for all 3 is the alert level ..... maybe.

                     

                     

                     Noticed MD eve....  had short sums 7,,3,,and 0    Out respectively ... 57,, 51 ...and 14 skips.

                     Thats another level to consider perhaps.... total skips .....122 skips for all 3 ....

                                                                             but.... all 3 just out 14 as a group.  

                     

                     

                    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                           Win d    

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                      Posted: August 27, 2007, 9:30 am - IP Logged

                      Combined Midday and Evening Drawings - Monday August 27, 2007

                       

                      35
                      22
                      20
                      DE3C
                      0
                      6
                      9

                       

                       

                       

                      49
                      35
                      22
                      IN3C
                      0
                      7
                      9

                       

                      Delaware and Indiana - Short Sums

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                        Wednesday 8/29/07 

                        Midday State: Virginia (only midday state with 3 short sums 20 skips or more)

                         

                        32
                        29
                        20
                        VA3M
                        2
                        0
                        8

                        Short Sum: 2 @ 32 skips

                        Short Sum: 0 @ 29 skips

                        Short Sum: 8 @ 20 skips

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                          Wednesday 8/29/07

                          Evening only : Missouri and Ontario

                           

                          38
                          24
                          21
                          MO3E
                          7
                          2
                          1

                           

                           

                          42
                          31
                          22
                          ONT3E
                          1
                          8
                          9
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                            Wednesday 8/29/07 - Combined Drawings (Midday and Evening)

                            Ohio

                             

                            27
                            22
                            20
                            OH3C
                            0
                            6
                            9