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winsumloosesum

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Aug 23, 2007, 10:32 am

Ok when would it be a good time to play Pick 3 "Short Sums" or "Left Digit Sums"
Short Sum 0 = Sums 0,10,20
               1 = Sums 1,11,21
               2 = Sums 2,12,22
               3 = Sums 3,13,23
               4 = Sums 4,14,24
               5 = Sums 5,15,25
               6 = Sums 6,16,26
               7 = Sums 7,17,27
               8 = Sums 8,18
               9 = Sums 9,19
If a state has 3 Short Sums 20 skips or more at the same time??
For example Delaware Midday only drawing:
Midday

30

26

21

DE3M

3

4

7

Delaware has Short Sums 3 @ 30 skips, 4 @ 26 skips, and 7 @ 21 skips

Below are the remaining midday state that have the same:

46

29

27

IN3M

0

3

5

Evening Only States:

64

21

20

ID3E

8

4

2

32

27

25

NM3E

9

0

6

27

21

20

WA3E

5

9

6

70

24

23

DC3E

3

6

4

Combined Midday & Evening Drawings:

28

22

20

DE3C

0

8

3

31

26

21

NJ3C

5

8

9

31

28

20

VA3C

2

8

7

66

32

28

DC3C

3

5

4

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So out of a possible 10 Midday States there are 2 occurances
                              10 Combined (Midday & Evening) there are 4 occurances
                              36 Evening States there are 4 occurances
So 10 occurances out of a total of 56 possible state drawings
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Would you consider this a good play when you have 3 or more short sums @ 20 or more skips or
                                                                                 3 or more short sums @ 30 or more skips??
WIN D

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Aug 23, 2007, 11:21 am

Winsum..... Great questions!
I have learned that things that worked for me most of the time in my state for years ....don't work in others and it drives me nuts. A lot of these games were Abused as children ....or something. They don't react normally or respond in a expected manner. They are not always...POLITE. LOL
Bottom line is ..... I have gone back in forth on this. I have always said they can hide one thing..and they may be able to hide 2 things...... But they can't hide 3 things very long at all.
Looking at those great research examples you worked out ..... whats the best way to measure them? My back and forth is this.
The DE example.
      30
      26
      21
77 ...... total days out for all 3 short sums    Should we look at the totals for all 3 sums? or should we just consider the last or least out sum as the guide?
In other words ..... should we just consider that all 3 sums are all out only..... 21 draws??

Another of your examples .....
   DC   66
         32
         28
         116 draws out for all 3 sums or consider that all are only out 28 draws? Total

   My inclination is to say.... they are all 3 out only 28 draws.........but... You have to allow some special consideration for that 66 day skip monster right? I dont know how to best deal with that sort of unbalance .......


The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d
WIN D

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Aug 23, 2007, 4:22 pm

Just in case ...... anyone wants to considerPlaying at the DC combined out Short Sums 3,,5,,and 4 because they are all out at least ..... 28 draws.. here you go.

All 3 of those short sums contain 12 singles per..... so 36 boxes x 6 = 216 straights
   and each of the short sums contain....27 double boxes ....so 27 x3 = 81 straight doubles
                                                                           Plus...........................= 3 trips
                                                                                                      ==========
                                                                                               300 straights missing 28 draws

      So ....missing 30% for 28 draws .....normal average is every 3 or 4 draws
       That means DC combined is running about ..... 8.5 times over due.... and most groups never make it to or past 6 times their average.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d
winsumloosesum

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Aug 24, 2007, 10:05 am

WinD,
Thanks for your input.
Midday states Delaware and Indiana hit "1" of the 3 sums
Midday today there is a new State: California Midday (Only state from all 20 psoibilities)

30

22

20

CA3M

0

2

3
winsumloosesum

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Aug 24, 2007, 10:08 am

Evening States (Does not include Combined)
DC was the only state that hit:
New state is Kansas

26

23

22

KS3E

3

9

8

Previous States:

65

22

20

ID3E

8

4

2

33

28

26

NM3E

9

0

6

28

22

21

WA3E

5

9

6
winsumloosesum

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Aug 24, 2007, 10:12 am

Combined draws:
Delaware and Virginia both hit:
New Jersey and DC did not.
No new states added.
Current States:

33

28

23

NJ3C

5

8

9

68

34

30

DC3C

3

5

4

Interesting to see DC - all 3 sums out at least 30 draws. Wonder how long this will go on??
winsumloosesum

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Aug 26, 2007, 2:40 pm

Sunday Midday States:

31

24

20

MO3M

3

8

0

54

47

21

OH3M

7

3

4
winsumloosesum

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Aug 26, 2007, 2:42 pm

Sunday Combined Midday & Evening:

48

34

21

IN3C

0

7

9

38

36

21

MD3C

7

3

1

37

32

27

NJ3C

5

8

9
winsumloosesum

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Aug 26, 2007, 2:45 pm

Evening States:
Amazingly no Evening only states with 3 short sums 20 or more draws.
Both Ohio and Missouri HIT Midday Sunday Midday
WIN D

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Aug 26, 2007, 4:49 pm

Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on Aug 26, 2007
Evening States:
Amazingly no Evening only states with 3 short sums 20 or more draws.
Both Ohio and Missouri HIT Midday Sunday Midday

Guess that means 20 skips for all 3 is the alert level ..... maybe.

Noticed MD eve.... had short sums 7,,3,,and 0 Out respectively ... 57,, 51 ...and 14 skips.
Thats another level to consider perhaps.... total skips .....122 skips for all 3 ....
but.... all 3 just out 14 as a group.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d
winsumloosesum

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Aug 27, 2007, 9:30 am

Combined Midday and Evening Drawings - Monday August 27, 2007

35

22

20

DE3C

0

6

9

49

35

22

IN3C

0

7

9

Delaware and Indiana - Short Sums
winsumloosesum

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Aug 29, 2007, 8:43 am

Wednesday 8/29/07
Midday State: Virginia (only midday state with 3 short sums 20 skips or more)

32

29

20

VA3M

2

0

8

Short Sum: 2 @ 32 skips
Short Sum: 0 @ 29 skips
Short Sum: 8 @ 20 skips
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Aug 29, 2007, 8:45 am

Wednesday 8/29/07
Evening only : Missouri and Ontario

38

24

21

MO3E

7

2

1

42

31

22

ONT3E

1

8

9
winsumloosesum

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Aug 29, 2007, 8:46 am

Wednesday 8/29/07 - Combined Drawings (Midday and Evening)
Ohio

27

22

20

OH3C

0

6

9

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