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Does anyone know what the "OUT" column mean in the With and Without tables within the Hot&Cold Digits Module of the program?

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    Does anyone know what the "OUT" column mean in the With and Without tables within the Hot&Cold Digits Module of the program?

    Hi,

    it is the amount of "positions" a digit has not fallen.

    Here's an example:
    TX eve:
    09/13/2007: 2 9 4
    09/14/2007: 9 3 2
    09/15/2007: 4 6 1

    First position (latest digit) = 1 (from 461)
    Second position  = 6 (from 461)
    Third position = 4 (from 461)
    Fourth position = 2 (from 932)
    Fifth position = 3 (from 932)
    Sixth position = 9 (from 932)
    etc.

    Digit 9 is out 6 "positions"
    Digit 4 is out 3 "positions"
    etc.

    cheers
    Ricky

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       Hmmmm..... 

             

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        I guess that that is a boxed system.

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        Also:

        09/13/2007: 2 9 4
        09/14/2007: 9 3 2
        09/15/2007: 4 6 1

        1, 6, 4, 2 and 3 Can be taken as HOT DIGITS and so:

        0, 5, 7, 8 and 9 as being COLD digits.

        The Hot digits being the 5 digits that came out last and the Cold digits being the other 5 digits that are left.

        That is just 1 boxed Hot-Cold system.

        --------

        Another would be to use any given number of "Boxed" past draws and the 5 digits that came out the most often on that section of past draws would be the Hot digits, the Cold digits would be the rest of them, that is the other 5 digits that are not Hot.

        Also if there are Matches among digits, those digits that came last or that have more digits that came last would have the priority as being Hot digits.

        In a regular Hot-Cold system all Hot digits are "Equal" and all Cold digits are also equal. 

        They are 5 and 5, there is no "More Cold or Coldest" and no "More Hot or Hottest"

        Just 5 Hot and 5 Cold.

        Of course there for some reason can be special Hot-Cold systems in which which digits can be:

        1st Cold, 2nd Cold, 3rd Cold, 4th Cold. 5th Cold and 1st Hot, 2nd Hot, 3rd Hot, 4th Hot, 5th Hot.

        Or just 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th.

        -------------

        And there are also Straight Hot-Cold systems in a similar way, but straight, not boxed.

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        There is much more to Hot and Cold than what is here on this post.

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          I guess that that is a boxed system.

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          Also:

          09/13/2007: 2 9 4
          09/14/2007: 9 3 2
          09/15/2007: 4 6 1

          1, 6, 4, 2 and 3 Can be taken as HOT DIGITS and so:

          0, 5, 7, 8 and 9 as being COLD digits.

          The Hot digits being the 5 digits that came out last and the Cold digits being the other 5 digits that are left.

          That is just 1 boxed Hot-Cold system.

          --------

          Another would be to use any given number of "Boxed" past draws and the 5 digits that came out the most often on that section of past draws would be the Hot digits, the Cold digits would be the rest of them, that is the other 5 digits that are not Hot.

          Also if there are Matches among digits, those digits that came last or that have more digits that came last would have the priority as being Hot digits.

          In a regular Hot-Cold system all Hot digits are "Equal" and all Cold digits are also equal. 

          They are 5 and 5, there is no "More Cold or Coldest" and no "More Hot or Hottest"

          Just 5 Hot and 5 Cold.

          Of course there for some reason can be special Hot-Cold systems in which which digits can be:

          1st Cold, 2nd Cold, 3rd Cold, 4th Cold. 5th Cold and 1st Hot, 2nd Hot, 3rd Hot, 4th Hot, 5th Hot.

          Or just 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th.

          -------------

          And there are also Straight Hot-Cold systems in a similar way, but straight, not boxed.

          --------

          There is much more to Hot and Cold than what is here on this post.

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          The person using it has the choice to have the result for either boxed or either straights.
          There is either Hot/Cold or Hot/Between/Cold, that is also up to the user.
          Also, she or he can set the amount of draws that should be used to do the calculations.
          Another thing the person using it can do is set the last draw date to any date. (so it is not calculated upto the latest draw)

          cheers
          Ricky

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            Posted: September 17, 2007, 9:29 pm - IP Logged

            Thank Ricky for the explaination, however, Fernando's comments make me wonder how is LotSoft determining what is Hot and Cold, It is frequency, positioning or a combination?

            thanks

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              Ricky, I get a little confuse with the OUT results, when some of the results are 20 to 30+?

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                Ricky, I get a little confuse with the OUT results, when some of the results are 20 to 30+?

                Hi,

                let's take TX eve as an example again:

                TX eve:
                09/06/2007: 9 3 0
                09/07/2007: 6 9 7
                09/08/2007: 5 4 3
                09/10/2007: 8 6 9
                09/11/2007: 9 7 4
                09/12/2007: 5 8 9
                09/13/2007: 2 9 4
                09/14/2007: 9 3 2
                09/15/2007: 4 6 1
                09/17/2007: 3 4 2

                First position (latest digit) = 2 (from 342)
                Second position  = 4 (from 342)
                Third position = 3 (from 342)
                Fourth position = 1 (from 461)
                Fifth position = 6 (from 461)
                Sixth position = 4 (from 461)
                etc.

                Now, digit 0 last came in on 09/06/2007, so we count back to the position where it came in, that is (9 draws X 3) + 1 ago= 28 positions.

                cheers
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                  Ricky

                  Where I clearly understand your example, Im not adding up properly in LotSoft for me.

                  Example 

                  I ran TX mid for 5/14/07 to 7/14/07, using 167, 1-5H, 6-10C, straight
                  and I got digit 3 = 13 OUT, digit 9= 30 OUT and digit 6= 43 OUT,
                  neither are following your position criteria example, they each
                  occurred multiples before the OUT result

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                    Ricky

                    Where I clearly understand your example, Im not adding up properly in LotSoft for me.

                    Example 

                    I ran TX mid for 5/14/07 to 7/14/07, using 167, 1-5H, 6-10C, straight
                    and I got digit 3 = 13 OUT, digit 9= 30 OUT and digit 6= 43 OUT,
                    neither are following your position criteria example, they each
                    occurred multiples before the OUT result

                    Hi, 

                    i think you have the dates wrong, no?

                    5/14/07 to 7/14/07

                    And if you use this dates, as you used, and look at the draws in that "daterange", it is given totally correct data...

                    cheers
                    Ricky

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                       Try this one.

                        Short Sum chart ....enter Ga eve.  9/17/06  until  9/17/07  ....... should be 365 draws

                        Then hit ....analize these draws

                        Result is ..... 228 singles  83 doubles  1 trip ...................................result 312    not 365

                       

                           .... notice also

                       If you try to scan more than one year to analize...say 05 to 07 you will get a time out...and run time error (6) as well.  

                       

                       

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                         Try this one.

                          Short Sum chart ....enter Ga eve.  9/17/06  until  9/17/07  ....... should be 365 draws

                          Then hit ....analize these draws

                          Result is ..... 228 singles  83 doubles  1 trip ...................................result 312    not 365

                         

                             .... notice also

                         If you try to scan more than one year to analize...say 05 to 07 you will get a time out...and run time error (6) as well.  

                        Hi Chaz,

                        the answer is: only 312 unique straight numbers have hit between these 2 dates.
                        As for the boxed amount coming from the straight amount, i have sent emails out twice about this issue.

                        Here are those straights, and the amount of times they hit:

                        Query1

                        Query1
                        Times**t Nbr
                        3 595
                        3 776
                        3 539
                        2 873
                        2 702
                        2 228
                        2 227
                        2 706
                        2 749
                        2 768
                        2 775
                        2 885
                        2 140
                        2 256
                        2 184
                        2 803
                        2 164
                        2 827
                        2 868
                        2 772
                        2 357
                        2 471
                        2 510
                        2 453
                        2 548
                        2 432
                        2 412
                        2 692
                        2 372
                        2 691
                        2 352
                        2 632
                        2 637
                        2 652
                        2 655
                        2 660
                        2 751
                        2 584
                        2 071
                        2 960
                        2 987
                        2 978
                        2 959
                        2 018
                        2 046
                        2 958
                        2 898
                        2 058
                        2 034
                        2 080
                        2 993
                        1 337
                        1 317
                        1 031
                        1 323
                        1 334
                        1 342
                        1 316
                        1 350
                        1 299
                        1 344
                        1 327
                        1 032
                        1 313
                        1 302
                        1 027
                        1 298
                        1 296
                        1 295
                        1 286
                        1 279
                        1 275
                        1 033
                        1 261
                        1 304
                        1 469
                        1 028
                        1 447
                        1 451
                        1 452
                        1 019
                        1 443
                        1 468
                        1 440
                        1 006
                        1 005
                        1 478
                        1 486
                        1 487
                        1 489
                        1 457
                        1 399
                        1 367
                        1 252
                        1 385
                        1 235
                        1 389
                        1 446
                        1 398
                        1 364
                        1 404
                        1 025
                        1 407
                        1 020
                        1 419
                        1 427
                        1 393
                        1 074
                        1 247
                        1 135
                        1 077
                        1 141
                        1 142
                        1 131
                        1 152
                        1 130
                        1 153
                        1 155
                        1 157
                        1 168
                        1 170
                        1 067
                        1 148
                        1 110
                        1 088
                        1 093
                        1 095
                        1 103
                        1 105
                        1 133
                        1 108
                        1 185
                        1 113
                        1 119
                        1 120
                        1 123
                        1 124
                        1 126
                        1 079
                        1 233
                        1 222
                        1 224
                        1 225
                        1 050
                        1 226
                        1 172
                        1 045
                        1 215
                        1 234
                        1 044
                        1 040
                        1 081
                        1 238
                        1 204
                        1 049
                        1 194
                        1 250
                        1 186
                        1 063
                        1 062
                        1 187
                        1 054
                        1 221
                        1 193
                        1 217
                        1 203
                        1 562
                        1 053
                        1 492
                        1 206
                        1 065
                        1 189
                        1 856
                        1 836
                        1 841
                        1 842
                        1 843
                        1 844
                        1 845
                        1 871
                        1 852
                        1 828
                        1 859
                        1 860
                        1 863
                        1 865
                        1 867
                        1 745
                        1 848
                        1 802
                        1 552
                        1 763
                        1 765
                        1 766
                        1 773
                        1 784
                        1 831
                        1 799
                        1 830
                        1 804
                        1 816
                        1 817
                        1 821
                        1 824
                        1 825
                        1 872
                        1 789
                        1 980
                        1 934
                        1 939
                        1 942
                        1 948
                        1 952
                        1 973
                        1 869
                        1 979
                        1 929
                        1 985
                        1 986
                        1 988
                        1 994
                        1 995
                        1 996
                        1 975
                        1 916
                        1 875
                        1 880
                        1 891
                        1 903
                        1 905
                        1 907
                        1 933
                        1 913
                        1 932
                        1 918
                        1 921
                        1 923
                        1 924
                        1 925
                        1 928
                        1 739
                        1 908
                        1 603
                        1 580
                        1 583
                        1 585
                        1 587
                        1 592
                        1 593
                        1 622
                        1 597
                        1 567
                        1 604
                        1 607
                        1 609
                        1 610
                        1 618
                        1 757
                        1 594
                        1 536
                        1 497
                        1 499
                        1 500
                        1 502
                        1 505
                        1 513
                        1 576
                        1 531
                        1 573
                        1 550
                        1 002
                        1 560
                        1 998
                        1 564
                        1 565
                        1 623
                        1 514
                        1 705
                        1 678
                        1 679
                        1 683
                        1 685
                        1 696
                        1 697
                        1 619
                        1 704
                        1 662
                        1 707
                        1 718
                        1 725
                        1 727
                        1 731
                        1 737
                        1 703
                        1 648
                        1 624
                        1 625
                        1 628
                        1 629
                        1 631
                        1 638
                        1 677
                        1 641
                        1 669
                        1 649
                        1 650
                        1 654
                        1 657
                        1 658
                        1 659
                        1 494
                        1 640

                         

                        cheers
                        Ricky

                         

                        PS Chaz: in your PM you have included an emailaddress. I have sent you an email, on Monday September 17, 2007, 7:03 PM. The content of that mail should have explained alot... 

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                          Hi, 

                          i think you have the dates wrong, no?

                          5/14/07 to 7/14/07

                          And if you use this dates, as you used, and look at the draws in that "daterange", it is given totally correct data...

                          cheers
                          Ricky

                          Ricky,

                          can you please post an example of a daterange within one of the database, that give OUT results for some of the digits with values greater than 20, and explain how the result is true according to your explainations. Thanks

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                            Ricky,

                            can you please post an example of a daterange within one of the database, that give OUT results for some of the digits with values greater than 20, and explain how the result is true according to your explainations. Thanks

                            Hi,

                            i'll use your data of TX midday:
                            I ran TX mid for 5/14/07 to 7/14/07, using 167, 1-5H, 6-10C, straight
                            and I got digit 3 = 13 OUT, digit 9= 30 OUT and digit 6= 43 OUT,
                            neither are following your position criteria example, they each
                            occurred multiples before the OUT result

                            Here are the draws of that daterange:

                            Query1

                            TX midday
                            Datum P1 P2 P3
                            05/14/2007 3 9 6
                            05/15/2007 9 9 7
                            05/16/2007 9 6 3
                            05/17/2007 3 8 2
                            05/18/2007 4 2 2
                            05/19/2007 3 1 0
                            05/21/2007 1 1 9
                            05/22/2007 6 1 6
                            05/23/2007 9 8 7
                            05/24/2007 3 2 7
                            05/25/2007 3 2 2
                            05/26/2007 6 8 2
                            05/28/2007 0 9 9
                            05/29/2007 1 9 7
                            05/30/2007 3 0 7
                            05/31/2007 9 2 7
                            06/01/2007 7 7 3
                            06/02/2007 5 6 4
                            06/04/2007 3 1 1
                            06/05/2007 3 5 8
                            06/06/2007 8 6 0
                            06/07/2007 5 8 8
                            06/08/2007 6 5 2
                            06/09/2007 3 7 4
                            06/11/2007 3 9 8
                            06/12/2007 1 3 3
                            06/13/2007 6 6 6
                            06/14/2007 6 8 0
                            06/15/2007 4 6 5
                            06/16/2007 2 7 7
                            06/18/2007 5 9 6
                            06/19/2007 4 0 2
                            06/20/2007 0 0 5
                            06/21/2007 3 5 7
                            06/22/2007 2 3 1
                            06/23/2007 9 4 7
                            06/25/2007 9 9 9
                            06/26/2007 4 2 2
                            06/27/2007 7 5 6
                            06/28/2007 0 7 1
                            06/29/2007 4 2 3
                            06/30/2007 4 0 4
                            07/02/2007 5 7 1
                            07/03/2007 9 5 0
                            07/04/2007 0 1 0
                            07/05/2007 0 8 3
                            07/06/2007 2 4 2
                            07/07/2007 7 2 8
                            07/09/2007 4 7 3
                            07/10/2007 2 1 2
                            07/11/2007 5 1 1
                            07/12/2007 0 0 7
                            07/13/2007 7 4 8


                               

                             

                            Now, start counting from the latest date, so digit 8 has OUT = 1
                            Digit 4 has OUT = 2, digit 7 has OUT = 3, digit 0 has OUT = 5, and so on,
                            the first time you will encounter digit 3 is at the 13th position (marked in red)
                            The first time you will find digit 9 is at position 30 (marked in red)
                            The first time you will find digit 6 is at position 43 (marked in red)

                            Do not mix up draws vs positions... 

                            cheers
                            Ricky

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                              ok, now I get Ricky thanks....I more question is with the 3 digit series, How do you determine those percentages after the series length column, where does it come from?