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Posted: October 28, 2007, 6:16 pm - IP Logged

Has anyone ever worked out what the average number of days is that it takes for all the numbers to have appeared?

Of course, a number may hit several draws in a row and then go cold, but after so many days they all would have appeared.

I'm putting this in Pick 5 because the drawings are more frequent.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

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    Posted: October 28, 2007, 6:39 pm - IP Logged

    For Ga. ---16 day average for complete turn over --1-39

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      Posted: October 28, 2007, 7:03 pm - IP Logged

      all I work out for is Da Money!! give it to me anyway!!

      One day I will Hit BIG!!

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        Posted: October 28, 2007, 8:19 pm - IP Logged

        For Ohio Rolling Cash5 (5/39) during the last 200 drawings all 39 numbers had hit in the previous 15-61 drawings.  The highest occurrences were 28-37 previous drawings.

         11. 0     21. 5     31. 8     41. 4     51. 1   61. 1
         12. 0     22. 6     32. 9     42. 4     52. 1
         13. 0     23. 5     33. 10    43. 4     53. 1
         14. 0     24. 6     34. 10    44. 3     54. 1
         15. 1     25. 7     35. 9     45. 3     55. 1
         16. 1     26. 9     36. 10    46. 3     56. 1
         17. 1     27. 7     37. 9     47. 2     57. 1
         18. 3     28. 8     38. 6     48. 2     58. 1
         19. 4     29. 8     39. 4     49. 2     59. 1
         20. 4     30. 8     40. 3     50. 2     60. 1

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          Posted: October 29, 2007, 10:38 pm - IP Logged

          @ Coin Toss, 

          Wasn't sure where you considered the dividing line for average so ... using a 1000 drawing block of our 36 choose 5 game (evening only), here is a day-by-day

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
          dayscount
          131
          143
          155
          1612
          1719
          1824
          1925
          2033
          2140
          2247
          2355
          2456
          2558
          2653
          2758
          2850
          2941
          3039
          3135
          3235
          3334
          3431
          3528
          3620
          3718
          3817
          3917
          4014
          4112
          4210
          439
          446
          456
          466
          477
          4876


          *The 76 next to the 48 represents the number of times it took 48 or more days to fill the pool

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            Posted: October 29, 2007, 11:38 pm - IP Logged

            In Marylands Bonus match 5 we have had some months where some numbers never were drawn during the month. This would be one or 2 numbers. Around the 4th to 5th week they would appear.

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              Posted: October 30, 2007, 9:06 pm - IP Logged

              ...dug a little deeper, and added a running total...same 1,000 drawing block 

              days, count, % of total   


              13    01    00.1%        38    17    75.4%        63    2    95.8%
              14    03    00.4%        39    17    75.4%        64    2    95.8%
              15    05    00.9%        40    14    75.4%        65    2    95.8%
              16    12    02.1%        41    12    75.4%        66    2    95.8%
              17    19    04.0%        42    10    75.4%        67    2    95.8%
              18    24    06.4%        43    09    75.4%        68    2    95.8%
              19    25    08.9%        44    06    75.4%        69    2    95.8%
              20    33    12.2%        45    06    75.4%        70    2    95.8%
              21    40    16.2%        46    06    75.4%        71    2    95.8%
              22    47    20.9%        47    07    75.4%        72    2    95.8%
              23    55    26.4%        48    08    75.4%        73    2    95.8%
              24    56    32.0%        49    05    75.4%        74    2    95.8%
              25    58    37.8%        50    04    75.4%        75    2    95.8%
              26    53    43.1%        51    04    75.4%        76    2    95.8%
              27    58    48.9%        52    03    75.4%        77    1    95.8%
              28    50    53.9%        53    02    75.4%        78    1    95.8%
              29    41    58.0%        54    02    75.4%        79    1    95.8%
              30    39    61.9%        55    02    75.4%        80    1    100.0%
              31    35    65.4%        56    02    75.4%               
              32    35    68.9%        57    02    95.8%               
              33    34    72.3%        58    02    95.8%               
              34    31    75.4%        59    02    95.8%               
              35    28    75.4%        60    02    95.8%               
              36    20    75.4%        61    02    95.8%               
              37    18    75.4%        62    02    95.8%               

              In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
              Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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                The following is the number of draws for all 39 numbers of the Ohio RC5 to repeat during the last 800 drawings.

                  10. 0     20. 18    30. 40    40. 17    50. 5     60. 1
                  11. 0     21. 26    31. 36    41. 14    51. 3     61. 1
                  12. 0     22. 31    32. 34    42. 12    52. 3     62. 0
                  13. 0     23. 32    33. 33    43. 9     53. 3     63. 0
                  14. 0     24. 37    34. 34    44. 8     54. 2     64. 0
                  15. 2     25. 36    35. 35    45. 7     55. 1     65. 0
                  16. 2     26. 41    36. 34    46. 7     56. 1     66. 0
                  17. 4     27. 43    37. 30    47. 6     57. 1     67. 0
                  18. 8     28. 39    38. 25    48. 6     58. 1     68. 0
                  19. 12    29. 37    39. 18    49. 5     59. 1     69. 0

                When you just look at the 5 winning numbers for the same period, 50% have repeated within 8-19 drawings.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: November 2, 2007, 12:54 am - IP Logged

                  Thanks for the responses and research guys, especially time*treat and RJOh.

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

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                    Posted: November 3, 2007, 10:07 pm - IP Logged

                    I call the study of that Draw Skip Sequencing...I don't know how is actually called...I don't think it has a name...

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                      For Ga. ---16 day average for complete turn over --1-39

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                        Posted: November 3, 2007, 11:43 pm - IP Logged

                        I call the study of that Draw Skip Sequencing...I don't know how is actually called...I don't think it has a name...

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                          Posted: November 5, 2007, 10:05 am - IP Logged

                          Has anyone ever worked out what the average number of days is that it takes for all the numbers to have appeared?

                          Of course, a number may hit several draws in a row and then go cold, but after so many days they all would have appeared.

                          I'm putting this in Pick 5 because the drawings are more frequent.

                          I made a chart that places the Ohio Rolling Cash 5's 39 numbers in the order they last hit. The first 5 numbers are from the last draw and the 39th is the number that's gone the longest without a hit. When I enter the next draw, the numbers are entered in the order or rank they appeared on the previous line. 

                          When 1-7-20-25-28 was drawn, 1 was ranked 21st, 7/2nd, 20/19th, 25/13th, and 28/29th so the numbers would be entered as 7-25-20-1-28. The other numbers fall in ranking and the previous first ranked number will ranked 6th unless it repeats.

                          When the number ranked 39th is drawn, the number of skips it had would be how many draws it took for all 39 numbers to be drawn and in 150 drawings, the number ranked 39th hit 9 times. The problem with averaging is that some numbers will only be in the 39th position a couple of draws while other numbers will sit there for weeks. The 8 skips (or how long a number was ranked 39th) in this example were: 31, 10, 13, 2, 4, 47, 8, and 3. That doesn't include the number of draws it took to become 39th.

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                            Posted: November 5, 2007, 9:55 pm - IP Logged

                            That doesn't include the number of draws it took to become 39th.

                            Ah, well that's a whole 'nother chart Wink

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                              Posted: November 5, 2007, 11:21 pm - IP Logged

                              That doesn't include the number of draws it took to become 39th.

                              Ah, well that's a whole 'nother chart Wink

                              LOL!

                              Yeah I know. I put the rankings into a Pick-5 program that shows skips, but when I realized it didn't include the draws before a number was ranked 39th, I didn't have the time to finish.

                              But I do know all the numbers were drawn in 9 draws on the low side and number 25 skipped 61 draws in that 150 draw period. Maybe one of years I'll figure out how to use the chart.