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Pairs for four digit games

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Posted: October 30, 2007, 11:34 am - IP Logged

does anyone have a system that produces pairs for four digit games? i am working on something, but looking for something to use with mine or something that can stand alone.

 

thanks .

 

4thquarter babe

As the world turns, so does luck, believe and it shall return to you!! Let the party BEGIN!!

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    JAP69's avatar - alas
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    Posted: October 30, 2007, 11:31 pm - IP Logged

    does anyone have a system that produces pairs for four digit games? i am working on something, but looking for something to use with mine or something that can stand alone.

     

    thanks .

     

    4thquarter babe

    You can check out these pairs in each line as I have them laid out.
    I call them companion pairs .

    Check your history to see how they fall

    I will color code two lines of companion pairs in your draw history

    companion pairs

    11-33-13
    01-03-12-14-23-34
    15-17-19-35-37-39
    16-18-36-38
    00-22-44-02-04-24
    05-07-09-25-27-29-45-47-49
    06-08-26-28-46-48
    55-77-99-57-59-79
    56-58-67-69-78-89
    66-88-68

     

    Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
    MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
    Tue, Oct 30, 20077-2-67-0-50-7-4-35-5-8-0
    Mon, Oct 29, 20070-7-46-4-01-8-5-09-8-2-1
    Sun, Oct 28, 20074-8-24-1-79-0-4-10-4-5-3
    Sat, Oct 27, 20076-9-99-9-13-0-5-06-1-9-4
    Fri, Oct 26, 20076-3-94-5-01-6-3-52-6-6-3
    Thu, Oct 25, 20074-4-28-7-53-8-8-78-1-0-7
    Wed, Oct 24, 20071-6-83-7-95-7-1-97-5-9-8
    Tue, Oct 23, 20075-5-07-1-33-6-3-83-3-0-4
    Mon, Oct 22, 20075-3-37-0-14-5-8-04-4-2-4
    Sun, Oct 21, 20078-5-54-2-05-2-6-97-7-3-0

    MAGA

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      Posted: November 2, 2007, 7:06 pm - IP Logged

      Thank you very much Jap

      As the world turns, so does luck, believe and it shall return to you!! Let the party BEGIN!!

      Party

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        Posted: November 2, 2007, 7:58 pm - IP Logged

        Hey Jap & 4thquarterbabe, et al-

         

        If you would indulage me  with some kind assistance-

        I also working on a seemingly misson impossibe with pairs because of  limited cuomputer skills:

        Question-

        How to find unhit pairs in keno (live or VK) that have slept for 165 games?

        Guys & gals, much appreciate any or all assistance in advance via posting response or direct PM.

         

        Good Weekend Wishes,

        EddessaKnight Sun Smiley

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          Posted: November 3, 2007, 7:31 am - IP Logged

          Hey Jap & 4thquarterbabe, et al-

           

          If you would indulage me  with some kind assistance-

          I also working on a seemingly misson impossibe with pairs because of  limited cuomputer skills:

          Question-

          How to find unhit pairs in keno (live or VK) that have slept for 165 games?

          Guys & gals, much appreciate any or all assistance in advance via posting response or direct PM.

           

          Good Weekend Wishes,

          EddessaKnight Sun Smiley

          I have no idea about keno pairs.

          I never tracked keno.

          MAGA

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            Posted: November 3, 2007, 2:38 pm - IP Logged

            Thank you for your prompt and courteous reply Jap.

            Anyone else on the bumpy keno road to ruin ? (sans Bob Hope & Bing Crosby ) Sun Smiley

             

            Peace, Prosperity & Opportunity-

            EddessaKnight

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              Posted: November 4, 2007, 8:59 pm - IP Logged

              Eddessa,

              There are 3160 "2 pairs" in Keno.  Based on a 80 number game.

              Won't you have too many "2 Pairs"??

              What Kneo game(s) are you trying to track?? 

              Do you have past results?? 

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                Posted: November 6, 2007, 7:02 pm - IP Logged

                Eddessa,

                There are 3160 "2 pairs" in Keno.  Based on a 80 number game.

                Won't you have too many "2 Pairs"??

                What Kneo game(s) are you trying to track?? 

                Do you have past results?? 

                Hello winsumloosesum, et al-

                Thanks for your relevant reply and apolgies for the inadvertent slow response.

                Firstly, I have an experimental (sceintifically based) hypothesis regarding a point of certainty which is an out of the box approach and these unorthodox concepts usually are not to the conventional way of thinking on the boards. Just the same most standard game plans & software systems are predictably defeated and that's my motivation for outside investigation.

                Beyond coincidence and blind luck factor, your math is correct in that there would be 3160 accululative grand total pairs to begin with but after some approx 165 played games this total is could be reduced to say 5 pairs. These pairs could be played as 2-4-6-8-10 spots together.

                Frankly I do not have any results for this idea in keno but have applied the concept to other games.

                Although I have survived the games in Las Vegas for 15 years, I am relatively new to computer culture and operational complexidies. I am hoping that some one with a liberated immagination and technical skill would find this concept challenging by tracking of only the vertical and horizonttwos and program their computer that would tabulate and accumulate all twos in ach game for 165 games grand total. The games could be preferably, live parlor or Video Keno.

                As this is a public forum I am by necessity limited by exposure, but if someone has the computer program savvy, earnest, keno knowledge + imagination & time and want's to check out tihs phenomanon  then I recommend writing me PM (as some are aleady). Kindly keep in mind this onl a test

                I am selling nothing to anyone, this does not involve any form of cheating or dealing with heat, so please, repsctfully,  only serious inqueries.

                If You Want to Walk on Water, You've Got to Get Out of the Boat!

                Thank you for your kind consideration-

                 

                EddessaKnight Sun Smiley

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                  Posted: November 7, 2007, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

                  This shouldn't be hard to do.

                  You will need a drawing history.

                  How many numbers are drawn from a pool of 80 for each drawing.  10 or 20? 

                  The next thing is to calculate what Pairs Hit and the current skip of all the "2 Pairs" Keno Pairs from the last 165 drawings.

                  New York draws 20 Numbers out of a Pool of 80.

                  I have an Excel program that tracks the "2 Pairs"

                  The November 4 drawing the TOP 7 "2 Pairs" that were out the longest:  

                   

                                                                                                                                   
                  9,43@187SKIPS
                  11,49@114SKIPS
                  26,62@112SKIPS
                  31,35@116SKIPS
                  40,58@111SKIPS
                  43,47@142SKIPS
                  54,58@111SKIPS
                  Tue, Nov 6, 2007 08-11-12-13-15-21-23-25-29-36-47-51-53-55-56-57-63-64-69-74
                  Mon, Nov 5, 2007 02-06-14-17-23-24-35-39-41-44-47-57-58-63-66-67-70-71-77-80

                   

                   In the last 2 drawings none of the "2 Pairs" hit.  But as a group there were a few numbers from the pool of 2 pairs that were drawn.

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                    Posted: November 8, 2007, 6:10 pm - IP Logged

                    This shouldn't be hard to do.

                    You will need a drawing history.

                    How many numbers are drawn from a pool of 80 for each drawing.  10 or 20? 

                    The next thing is to calculate what Pairs Hit and the current skip of all the "2 Pairs" Keno Pairs from the last 165 drawings.

                    New York draws 20 Numbers out of a Pool of 80.

                    I have an Excel program that tracks the "2 Pairs"

                    The November 4 drawing the TOP 7 "2 Pairs" that were out the longest:  

                     

                                                                                                                                     
                    9,43@187SKIPS
                    11,49@114SKIPS
                    26,62@112SKIPS
                    31,35@116SKIPS
                    40,58@111SKIPS
                    43,47@142SKIPS
                    54,58@111SKIPS
                    Tue, Nov 6, 2007 08-11-12-13-15-21-23-25-29-36-47-51-53-55-56-57-63-64-69-74
                    Mon, Nov 5, 2007 02-06-14-17-23-24-35-39-41-44-47-57-58-63-66-67-70-71-77-80

                     

                     In the last 2 drawings none of the "2 Pairs" hit.  But as a group there were a few numbers from the pool of 2 pairs that were drawn.

                    Hey winsum-

                    Your response was welcomed-

                    Really apperciated your honest efforts on my behalf

                    Looks like I was remiss by not saying this concept, was concieved for live parlor casino Keno and or Video Keno where the pair odds are fixed by the house or machine.

                    Your State keno results are sincere enough but, unfortuanely,  not applicable because ot their other inherant variable factors.

                    Nothing spectacular mind you, but I have had some modest but measurable success with gaming that is essentially in a closed loop system like casino even chance games.

                    However I would welcome further your communication about alternative spreadsheet computations for these specific keno applications.

                    Thanks again in advance and should you want to continue correspondence kindly do so via PM.

                     

                    No Worries,

                    EddessaKnight Sun Smiley

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                      Posted: November 11, 2007, 12:29 am - IP Logged

                      Hello winsumloosesum, et al-

                      Thanks for your relevant reply and apolgies for the inadvertent slow response.

                      Firstly, I have an experimental (sceintifically based) hypothesis regarding a point of certainty which is an out of the box approach and these unorthodox concepts usually are not to the conventional way of thinking on the boards. Just the same most standard game plans & software systems are predictably defeated and that's my motivation for outside investigation.

                      Beyond coincidence and blind luck factor, your math is correct in that there would be 3160 accululative grand total pairs to begin with but after some approx 165 played games this total is could be reduced to say 5 pairs. These pairs could be played as 2-4-6-8-10 spots together.

                      Frankly I do not have any results for this idea in keno but have applied the concept to other games.

                      Although I have survived the games in Las Vegas for 15 years, I am relatively new to computer culture and operational complexidies. I am hoping that some one with a liberated immagination and technical skill would find this concept challenging by tracking of only the vertical and horizonttwos and program their computer that would tabulate and accumulate all twos in ach game for 165 games grand total. The games could be preferably, live parlor or Video Keno.

                      As this is a public forum I am by necessity limited by exposure, but if someone has the computer program savvy, earnest, keno knowledge + imagination & time and want's to check out tihs phenomanon  then I recommend writing me PM (as some are aleady). Kindly keep in mind this onl a test

                      I am selling nothing to anyone, this does not involve any form of cheating or dealing with heat, so please, repsctfully,  only serious inqueries.

                      If You Want to Walk on Water, You've Got to Get Out of the Boat!

                      Thank you for your kind consideration-

                       

                      EddessaKnight Sun Smiley

                      "These pairs could be played as 2-4-6-8-10 spots together."

                      I play 4 pairs on a 15 way ticket that consists of four 2s, six 4s, four 6s, and one 8. You need to hit at least one pair to break even. If you play 5 pairs there are five 2s, ten 4s, ten 6s, five 8s, and one 10 or 31 ways. I believe the break even point would be hitting one pair plus three other numbers (payoffs on 3 out of 4 and 3 out of 6 varies). Most casinos allow you 50 cents a way when you play over 3 ways and you can play 25 cents a way with 20 or more ways.

                      I've noticed numbers hitting together and paired them up, but I usually limit it to three 2s and three 4s, and one 6. There is website (Keno USA) that gives Keno results from 28 casinos and you could use that to track 165 games.

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                        Posted: November 13, 2007, 6:33 pm - IP Logged

                        Thanks Stack for sharing your personal experiences and interesting game strategies with pairs.

                         

                        EddessaKnight

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