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Posted: November 6, 2007, 9:37 am - IP Logged

Anybody has a wheeling system for 15 numbers in pick 5?

There are 5 sets of three numbers which guaranteed one number each from each set.

for example:

Set 1: 123 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 1

Set 2: 456 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 2

Set 3: 789 (guaranteed 1 number) from set  3

Set 4: 10 11 12 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 4

Set 5: 13 14 15 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 5

I appreciate your help.  Thanks

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    Posted: November 6, 2007, 3:30 pm - IP Logged

    I've not seen one except for Power Lotto Wheeler, and last time I checked it cost $40!

     I'll bet a Google search for Lotto5 Wheels would turn up some free ones for you.

     

    Pete 

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      Posted: November 6, 2007, 4:10 pm - IP Logged

      Anybody has a wheeling system for 15 numbers in pick 5?

      There are 5 sets of three numbers which guaranteed one number each from each set.

      for example:

      Set 1: 123 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 1

      Set 2: 456 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 2

      Set 3: 789 (guaranteed 1 number) from set  3

      Set 4: 10 11 12 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 4

      Set 5: 13 14 15 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 5

      I appreciate your help.  Thanks

      Lottery Director has a free wheeling progam where you put the 5 sets into 5 zones and if you chose, can use other filters on those 243 combinations.

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        Posted: November 7, 2007, 5:39 pm - IP Logged

        Anybody has a wheeling system for 15 numbers in pick 5?

        There are 5 sets of three numbers which guaranteed one number each from each set.

        for example:

        Set 1: 123 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 1

        Set 2: 456 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 2

        Set 3: 789 (guaranteed 1 number) from set  3

        Set 4: 10 11 12 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 4

        Set 5: 13 14 15 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 5

        I appreciate your help.  Thanks

        Here is a 3if5, (1 number from each group) wheel in 12 lines.

        01 04 07 10 13
        01 04 08 11 15
        01 06 08 12 13
        01 06 09 10 14
        02 04 09 12 14
        02 05 07 12 13
        02 05 08 11 14
        02 06 07 10 15
        03 04 09 11 13
        03 05 08 10 15
        03 06 07 11 14
        03 06 09 12 15
        end 12 lines 3if5 if one from each group.

        BobP

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          Posted: November 7, 2007, 6:00 pm - IP Logged

          Anybody has a wheeling system for 15 numbers in pick 5?

          There are 5 sets of three numbers which guaranteed one number each from each set.

          for example:

          Set 1: 123 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 1

          Set 2: 456 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 2

          Set 3: 789 (guaranteed 1 number) from set  3

          Set 4: 10 11 12 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 4

          Set 5: 13 14 15 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 5

          I appreciate your help.  Thanks

          Look in resources and you will find lottery wheels.

          May be something you are looking for there.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/wheels

          WHATT

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            Posted: November 8, 2007, 3:55 am - IP Logged

            31 lines for 100% guarantee for a 4 hit.

            243 lines for 100% guaranteed jackpot.

             

            31 lines

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              01 04 07 11 14
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            Hans


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              Posted: November 12, 2007, 2:14 am - IP Logged

              If you use the filters on Expert Lotto it will do exactly what you want. I think a free trial version is avail??

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                Posted: November 13, 2007, 8:04 pm - IP Logged

                Greetings everyone,

                I've gotten about 15 hours into a code project that generates all possible combinations of 5 from a pool of user-defined 15 numbers using ASP.NET and a SQL Server 2005 Database.  I'm very close to where the only missing piece is the criteria or formula that defines/returns the sub-set with the minimum numbers of records needed to guarantee a win if the 3 or 4 are from a user's pool of 15.  Does someone have that info; it would be greatly appreciated.

                 

                 

                 

                 I have also posted, published, a Free website application that generates all combos of 3 for numbers 0 – 9 with a few filters added (sum, odd/even), and more that I'll add to it too.  It is up there as a "proof of concept" piece.  The 5-draw application currently returns 30 records at a time (of combinations of 5 from a pool of 15).  I have the Ilya Bluskov book, is the formula or criteria in the Gail Howard book—I haven't purchased that one yet.  Thanks for any useful info.

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                  Posted: November 16, 2007, 1:00 pm - IP Logged

                  Anybody has a wheeling system for 15 numbers in pick 5?

                  There are 5 sets of three numbers which guaranteed one number each from each set.

                  for example:

                  Set 1: 123 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 1

                  Set 2: 456 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 2

                  Set 3: 789 (guaranteed 1 number) from set  3

                  Set 4: 10 11 12 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 4

                  Set 5: 13 14 15 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 5

                  I appreciate your help.  Thanks

                  LottoBuster is another great software that creates wheels as well. Might wanna check that out too. http://www.lottobuster.com/ 

                  Good Fortunes!

                  Omniscient

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                    Posted: November 16, 2007, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

                    There are more than enough wheels on this site with a Platinum/Gold memberships.  The membership here gives you more resources and tools than you can get on the web, all in one place from any computer.  Just the search capabilties alone are worth the price.

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                      Posted: December 14, 2007, 12:59 pm - IP Logged

                      A 15 number wheel is useful only if you can reduce the number pool to 15 and still have all the winning numbers most of the time.  I've been experimenting with several pick5 games and the best I've done is to reduce the pool 50% and have at least 3 or more of the winning number more than 50% of the time. 

                      I've even tried to reduce the number pools of MM and PB to twelve for the Maddog MM and PB challenges and very seldom do I even have two of the winning numbers.  I even check the results of those challenges when I don't participate to see if anyone is winning consistently, so far winners varies among several players.

                      Since most of the time, a pool of 15 numbers is unlikely to have enough winning numbers to win even the lowest tier prize, a 15 number wheel with more than 30 or so lines seems to me to be impractical.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Posted: December 15, 2007, 12:24 pm - IP Logged

                        A 15 number wheel is useful only if you can reduce the number pool to 15 and still have all the winning numbers most of the time.  I've been experimenting with several pick5 games and the best I've done is to reduce the pool 50% and have at least 3 or more of the winning number more than 50% of the time. 

                        I've even tried to reduce the number pools of MM and PB to twelve for the Maddog MM and PB challenges and very seldom do I even have two of the winning numbers.  I even check the results of those challenges when I don't participate to see if anyone is winning consistently, so far winners varies among several players.

                        Since most of the time, a pool of 15 numbers is unlikely to have enough winning numbers to win even the lowest tier prize, a 15 number wheel with more than 30 or so lines seems to me to be impractical.

                        Rjoh.. do you use sum filters when wheeling 5 number games?

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                          31 lines for 100% guarantee for a 4 hit.

                          243 lines for 100% guaranteed jackpot.

                           

                          31 lines

                            01 04 07 10 13
                            01 04 07 11 14
                            01 04 09 12 15
                            01 05 08 10 14
                            01 05 08 10 15
                            01 05 08 11 13
                            01 06 07 12 15
                            01 06 09 11 15
                            01 06 09 12 13
                            01 06 09 12 14
                            02 04 07 10 15
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                            03 05 07 12 13
                            03 05 08 12 13
                            03 05 09 10 15
                            03 05 09 11 14
                            03 06 07 10 14
                            03 06 08 10 13

                           

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                            03 06 09 12 15

                          Hans

                          Palmetto Cash 504-19-20-24-31, Power-Up: 2Tue, Dec 25, 2007

                           

                          I made this list when this thread was posted to test my wheeling as 4 of 5 comes from the high numbers once in a while and sometimes all 5.

                          I did not play them. Just checking to see if the pond was frozen over to do some ice fishin.

                          Thought you might want to check your wheel here for 4 of 5

                          31 lines for 100% guarantee for a 4 hit.
                                       01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15

                          31 lines 17 18 19 20 23 24 25 27 28 29 31 32 34 35 36

                          01 04 07 10 13
                          01 04 07 11 14*
                          01 04 09 12 15
                          01 05 08 10 14
                          01 05 08 10 15
                          01 05 08 11 13
                          01 06 07 12 15
                          01 06 09 11 15*
                          01 06 09 12 13
                          01 06 09 12 14
                          02 04 07 10 15
                          02 04 08 12 13
                          02 04 09 10 14
                          02 04 09 11 13*
                          02 05 07 11 15
                          02 05 07 12 14
                          02 05 09 10 13
                          02 06 07 11 13*
                          02 06 08 11 14*
                          02 06 08 12 15
                          02 06 09 12 15
                          03 04 07 11 15 *3
                          03 04 08 11 15 *3
                          03 04 08 12 14*
                          03 04 09 11 13 *3
                          03 05 07 12 13
                          03 05 08 12 13
                          03 05 09 10 15
                          03 05 09 11 14*
                          03 06 07 10 14*
                          03 06 08 10 13*

                          WHATT

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                            Posted: January 17, 2008, 4:57 pm - IP Logged

                            Notice the question condition restriction for each positios please

                            Anybody has a wheeling system for 15 numbers in pick 5?

                            There are 5 sets of three numbers which guaranteed one number each from each set.

                            for example:

                            Set 1: 123 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 1

                            Set 2: 456 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 2

                            Set 3: 789 (guaranteed 1 number) from set  3

                            Set 4: 10 11 12 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 4

                            Set 5: 13 14 15 (guaranteed 1 number) from set 5

                            I appreciate your help.  Thanks

                            Hans

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                              Posted: January 17, 2008, 8:12 pm - IP Logged

                              Rjoh.. do you use sum filters when wheeling 5 number games?

                              I don't wheel numbers but when I do use sum as one of the parameters to select combinations it usually varies over 100 between the lowest and the highest amounts.

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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