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Pick 3/computerized cheats/advance plays

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Which is better to play the cheat states?

Play a number in advance... [ 7 ]  [21.88%]
play daily the same number [ 8 ]  [25.00%]
Run like hell from them altogether [ 11 ]  [34.38%]
dunno [ 6 ]  [18.75%]
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Posted: December 8, 2007, 12:21 pm - IP Logged

Do you think playing the cheat states, it would be wise to play a number for a week or a few days instead of loading up on the number for one draw?

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    Posted: December 9, 2007, 10:00 am - IP Logged

    What are Cheat States?

    A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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      Posted: December 9, 2007, 11:07 am - IP Logged

      What are Cheat States?

      I think she means the ones that don't use ball drawings.

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        Posted: December 9, 2007, 3:46 pm - IP Logged

        What are Cheat States?

        computerized states... Those that can monitor which number to pay with the lowest pay out..

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          I have yet to win ANYTHING on a computerized drawing, not that I play them often but even a 2 of 5 is very tough to get... but yet I routinely match 2 of 5 on the nj and PA 5. You would have to guess ahead of time what the flaw is in the draw program. One thing to note is that any computerization that is similar to TN is using the same generator for all the games, that is the Pick 3 picker will be the same as the Pick 5 picker but the software says (maybe now it does) that #s can be duplicated and the highest is 9. The best way to play computerized games (other than running away) is to use the Lottery terminal's RNG hoping it's the same type of generator that actually draws the numbers. Otherwise use your own RNG or some kind of mathematical operations.

          States that are pari-mutuel would not benefit from "cheating" because the payout is always the same for them! But states with fixed payouts per win may be tempted to bounce out higher payouts. The problem is, this will eventually discourage people to play being they rarely win. If you are convinced this conspiracy is true you can try to play #s that are less popular.

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            I have yet to win ANYTHING on a computerized drawing, not that I play them often but even a 2 of 5 is very tough to get... but yet I routinely match 2 of 5 on the nj and PA 5. You would have to guess ahead of time what the flaw is in the draw program. One thing to note is that any computerization that is similar to TN is using the same generator for all the games, that is the Pick 3 picker will be the same as the Pick 5 picker but the software says (maybe now it does) that #s can be duplicated and the highest is 9. The best way to play computerized games (other than running away) is to use the Lottery terminal's RNG hoping it's the same type of generator that actually draws the numbers. Otherwise use your own RNG or some kind of mathematical operations.

            States that are pari-mutuel would not benefit from "cheating" because the payout is always the same for them! But states with fixed payouts per win may be tempted to bounce out higher payouts. The problem is, this will eventually discourage people to play being they rarely win. If you are convinced this conspiracy is true you can try to play #s that are less popular.

            "States that are pari-mutuel would not benefit from "cheating" because the payout is always the same for them! But states with fixed payouts per win may be tempted to bounce out higher payouts. The problem is, this will eventually discourage people to play being they rarely win."

            I used to be in a Pari-State and that's one sure way to discourage players! Try 26bucks for a boxed double. Quit playing after that BS.

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              I have yet to win ANYTHING on a computerized drawing, not that I play them often but even a 2 of 5 is very tough to get... but yet I routinely match 2 of 5 on the nj and PA 5. You would have to guess ahead of time what the flaw is in the draw program. One thing to note is that any computerization that is similar to TN is using the same generator for all the games, that is the Pick 3 picker will be the same as the Pick 5 picker but the software says (maybe now it does) that #s can be duplicated and the highest is 9. The best way to play computerized games (other than running away) is to use the Lottery terminal's RNG hoping it's the same type of generator that actually draws the numbers. Otherwise use your own RNG or some kind of mathematical operations.

              States that are pari-mutuel would not benefit from "cheating" because the payout is always the same for them! But states with fixed payouts per win may be tempted to bounce out higher payouts. The problem is, this will eventually discourage people to play being they rarely win. If you are convinced this conspiracy is true you can try to play #s that are less popular.

              thaT IS THE WAY TO play...less popular

               

              I am doing better online hitting NC numbers///

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                Posted: December 16, 2007, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

                Playing the number in advance and playing the same number everyday is the same thing, right?  I do agree that some states may look for a lesser payout with the computerized system.  I really don't trust the cal lottery though I do play alot, because honestly, THEY ARE NOT .  The system (lottery officials) chose who they want to win because there is no way you can make me believe that, as much as it happens that someone in a upscale neighborhood, that doesn't even need the money wins as often as they do here in Cali and probably other states.

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                  So after reading this post, my question is:

                  In a state that uses a computer RNG for lotto games. Can the computer detect which numbers have been played and then select the daily numbers based on paying out the least amount? Or in other words cheat the players? Does my question make sense?

                  As if on any given day- 1000 tickets had a 3-6-5 selection and only 1 ticket had 3-6-4 could the computer generate the winning daily numbers 3-6-4 to ease the total payouts for that day? Or once again cheat the players. Is this probable or likely to happen?

                  I attempt to get a print out of the winners in each game each day. Try to compare them and see if anything stands out to me. In Idaho I noticed that rarely does someone hit the pick 3. Same in Washington state. The total payouts are usually consistent from day to day. I'd love to see some statistics about total money collected and total money paid out annually for a state RNG pick 3 game. Anyone know if this is available. Thanks.

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                    Posted: December 16, 2007, 3:58 pm - IP Logged

                    <Moved to Pick 3 forum>

                    Please post in the appropriate forum ... thank you.

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                      So after reading this post, my question is:

                      In a state that uses a computer RNG for lotto games. Can the computer detect which numbers have been played and then select the daily numbers based on paying out the least amount? Or in other words cheat the players? Does my question make sense?

                      As if on any given day- 1000 tickets had a 3-6-5 selection and only 1 ticket had 3-6-4 could the computer generate the winning daily numbers 3-6-4 to ease the total payouts for that day? Or once again cheat the players. Is this probable or likely to happen?

                      I attempt to get a print out of the winners in each game each day. Try to compare them and see if anything stands out to me. In Idaho I noticed that rarely does someone hit the pick 3. Same in Washington state. The total payouts are usually consistent from day to day. I'd love to see some statistics about total money collected and total money paid out annually for a state RNG pick 3 game. Anyone know if this is available. Thanks.

                      Ineresting poll.  I'm watching this one. 

                       

                      I'm going to make a whole lot of folks mad with this, but, yes.  I believe the computer does detect which numbers have been played and then selects the daily numbers based on the least amount of payouts.

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                        Posted: December 16, 2007, 9:38 pm - IP Logged

                        take delaware for instance....they cheat because they will look to see what numbers have been played the heaviest and let the least amount played number come out...lesonook

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                          take delaware for instance....they cheat because they will look to see what numbers have been played the heaviest and let the least amount played number come out...lesonook

                          I find your opinion interesting. If you know of this, then others would likely know of this. Which would lead to exposing fraud. Which would lead to? Care to expand your thoughts?

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                            if i thought i could prove it without spending a lot of money on it i would..with delaware it would be safe to say i  consider it a fraud they need to go back to manual balls..thats why i say that i need to quit playing cause im not gonna win...lesonook


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                              Posted: December 17, 2007, 1:49 pm - IP Logged

                              that's why tri states are so hard to win in,they cheat states.our govenor says he doesn't want to have a professional company run the lottery,as it would hurt poorest people.look gov.why not let the poorest people think for themselves,they're smarter then you think,thanks to all the education you've given them from lottery proceeds.if they don't spend it on lottery,they will somewhere else,booze,cigarettes,etc.!