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# Winning Streaks

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Ptuj
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Hello

I have created software for finding winning streaks. I play the best winning streak until I get one or more straight hits (I never play for boxed hits). I stop playing the streak when the current skip gets too high - when it reaches the median skip. For example:

Skips:   4  5  2  5  1  23  1  24  39  29  67  35  61  21  3  23  21  65  6  6  17  7  20  1  42  7  49  3  56  126  38  16  2  32

Sorted Skips:   1  1  1  2  2  3  3  4  5  5  6  6  7  7  16  17  20  21  21  23  23  24  29  32  35  38  39  42  49  56  61  65  67  126

Median Skip:  20

The current skip is 4 and the last 5 skips are below the median skip which indicates we are in a winning streak. I start playing the streak and after 30 days the skip sequence looks like this:

Skips:  6  0  12  3  9  5  2  5  1  23  1  24  39  29  67  35  61  21  3  23  21  65  6  6  17  7  20  1  42  7  49  3  56  126  38  16  2  32

Sorted Skips:  0  1  1  1  2  2  3  3  3  5  5  6  6  6  7  7  9  12  16  17  20  21  21  23  23  24  29  32  35  38  39  42  49  56  61  65  67  126

Median Skip:  16

So we made 4 straight hits in 24 plays. 24 plays * 50 combs = \$1200. 4 hits = \$3600.
Profit = 200%. Now if we play additional 16 times (this is the new median skip) and don't
win anything we loose \$800, which leaves us with 80% profit (3600 / 2000).

This was only an example. I have tested many thousands of drawings and my tests have shown even better streaks (with lower skips) and a few streaks that were not so good but the losses were minimal. On average the monthly profits were between 50% and 100%.

My programs also call Mr. Saliu's programs. For those familiar with his systems I am actually using multiple D3 files, multiple filters and multiple layers (I get about 200 skip sequences (per game) at the end and then I choose one sequence that is currently in a winning streak).

The system generates approximately 40-50 combinations for each drawing. If you play at betslips (where the payout is 900:1) you can play up to 17 times and still make a profit.

I have a question:
May I post the generated numbers for one month here - on some days the system generates a few more numbers than 50 so I can't use the "Predictions" section of the site.

BZ

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 Posted: February 8, 2008, 9:32 am - IP Logged

Sure, we'd love to see your numbers from your system.  If you're not going to use the predictions board, it would be best to keep the numbers in this thread, so your numbers stay together with the description you posted.

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Thank you for your generosity. We'd all like to see the numbers.

One question I have is with some lottery terminology. I have a slight understanding with the term "Skips", yet I don't understand how it is applied here. Can you elaborate?

It's good to know someone out there understands Saliu...lol

Thanx.

Ptuj
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"Skips" are the number of drawings between hits. The lower the skips the better. I will post the numbers (for an evening game) in about 3 hours (this software does a lot of processing).

BZ

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Skips:  6  0  12  3  9  5  2  5  1  23  1  24  39  29  67  35  61  21  3  23  21  65  6  6  17  7  20  1  42  7  49  3  56  126  38  16  2  32

Sorted Skips:  0  1  1  1  2  2  3  3  3  5  5  6  6  6  7  7  9  12  16  17  20  21  21  23  23  24  29  32  35  38  39  42  49  56  61  65  67  126

Median Skip:  16

So we made 4 straight hits in 24 plays. 24 plays * 50 combs = \$1200. 4 hits = \$3600.
Profit = 200%. Now if we play additional 16 times (this is the new median skip) and don't
win anything we loose \$800, which leaves us with 80% profit (3600 / 2000).

Please excuse my ignorance. I understand when you say the skips are the number of drawings between the hits. What I don't get is what you say above. You say you had 4 str. hits in 24 days, yet from what I see is that in the first row of skips, it shows the number 6 meaning you played 6 draws before hitting on the 6th?, and then hit immediately thereafter on the 0?, and then another 12 days before you hit again? And then 3,9,5,2,5...etc...

So if I understand you correctly, during 6,0,12,3, adds up to 21 draws,or something like that.

I understand if you don't have the time to explain, because I should know this stuff already, but I never really got around to it. I can always ask this in a new thread, and people could take the time to explain this.

Thanx.

Ptuj
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The first number (6) in the skip sequence means we had a hit 7 drawings ago - you always need to add 1 to the number of skips to get the number of drawings, like this:

Before playing:                          4  5  2  5  1
After 30 drawings:   6  0  12  3  9  5  2  5  1
Number of plays:     7  1  13  4  6

(1 + 13 + 4 + 6 = 24 drawings). I did not count the last 7 drawings, although I mentioned that
if we played 16 additional times (because the median skip is 16) we would loose \$800 - I forgot to add 1, so it is actually \$850, sorry (= 75.6 % profit).

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The first number (6) in the skip sequence means we had a hit 7 drawings ago - you always need to add 1 to the number of skips to get the number of drawings, like this:

Before playing:                          4  5  2  5  1
After 30 drawings:   6  0  12  3  9  5  2  5  1
Number of plays:     7  1  13  4  6

(1 + 13 + 4 + 6 = 24 drawings). I did not count the last 7 drawings, although I mentioned that
if we played 16 additional times (because the median skip is 16) we would loose \$800 - I forgot to add 1, so it is actually \$850, sorry (= 75.6 % profit).

Thanx for taking the time to explain.

Ptuj
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Here are the numbers for todays (Feb. 8th) Pick3 Indiana evening game (31 numbers):

004
008
033
039
055
057
069
079
093
103
104
119
166
188
205
390
398
400
508
511
559
609
619
639
651
653
709
739
754
805
808

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Here are the numbers for todays (Feb. 8th) Pick3 Indiana evening game (31 numbers):

004
008
033
039
055
057
069
079
093
103
104
119
166
188
205
390
398
400
508
511
559
609
619
639
651
653
709
739
754
805
808

Can you please post some numbers for Florida.

Thanx.

Ptuj
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Can you please post some numbers for Florida.

Thanx.

This would take another 3 hours to prepare (1 hour of that is manual work). It doesn't take that long once prepared (a new preparation is needed after the winning streak ends). Also the software might not find a suitable winning streak for any game I choose.  I would do this but I don't have the time today. I can do it tomorrow if you like.

I didn't plan to maintain more than 2 Pick3 games at any time (maybe in the future if I can optimize the software). Thank you for your interest.

BZ

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This would take another 3 hours to prepare (1 hour of that is manual work). It doesn't take that long once prepared (a new preparation is needed after the winning streak ends). Also the software might not find a suitable winning streak for any game I choose.  I would do this but I don't have the time today. I can do it tomorrow if you like.

I didn't plan to maintain more than 2 Pick3 games at any time (maybe in the future if I can optimize the software). Thank you for your interest.

BZ

Boris

As you are using Saliu's programs, that makes this hard to understand to those of us who are not familiar with them, I think that he "Cloaks" the way in which some of his programs work, like "his" filters, but I am not sure of this as I have not yet used them.

Anyway, from what very little I have  read here at LP about them, I think that some of his programs might use skips of "Filters" patterns, "Filters" being pretty much anything that can be used for reduction of pick 3 numbers (Combos).

To reduce the "Combos" to an amount  that can be played for a profit, more than 1 "Filter" might need to be used, so filters are used together in whatever particular combination(s) they seem to work best at a particular time for a particular draw or even for some particular future draws to come next or soon.

That is not the "Full" story, while even the same filters might be used for more than one future draws to be predicted, not the very same filter pattern have to be used or should be used, as filters have several patterns to each of them, of course some filters have more patterns than others.

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General talk about skips can be confusing as skips apply to the lottery games in so many ways.

For example: There are skips of each of the patterns of each of the "Filters" and also there are skips of digits, pairs and whole 3 digits pick 3 numbers.

There are also skips of Winnings (Winning counts or times) in accord to particular or to any prediction method(s), technique(s) and or prediction program(s) used.

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I do agree in using the first half of the median skips, I have said the same thing to one or more persons before, when talking about the best use of the skips of filters patterns, maybe that was said in private to one person, unless I also posted about it somewhere here at LP.

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I guess that you are testing a program and technique here so people will see how well or bad it does maybe to see if in the future sometime they might be interested in it, (?).

From what I have read here, it appears as if you might know what you are doing, so I am also interested in this.

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Good Luck!

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Fernando.

Ptuj
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[QUOTE]
As you are using Saliu's programs, that makes this hard to understand to those of us who are not familiar with them, I think that he "Cloaks" the way in which some of his programs work, like "his" filters, but I am not sure of this as I have not yet used them.
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Yes, not all of his filters are explained fully but a user doesn't need to know the inner workings of every filter in order to use it.

[QUOTE]
Anyway, from what very little I have  read here at LP about them, I think that some of his programs might use skips of "Filters" patterns, "Filters" being pretty much anything that can be used for reduction of pick 3 numbers (Combos).
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I am using filters in his Pick332 software - Tot, Rev, Pr, Vr, Any,...

[QUOTE]
To reduce the "Combos" to an amount  that can be played for a profit, more than 1 "Filter" might need to be used, so filters are used together in whatever particular combination(s) they seem to work best at a particular time for a particular draw or even for some particular future draws to come next or soon.

That is not the "Full" story, while even the same filters might be used for more than one future draws to be predicted, not the very same filter pattern have to be used or should be used, as filters have several patterns to each of them, of course some filters have more patterns than others.
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There are many possibilities here but I have tested two of them:

- create the skips reports (.REP files) for just one filter and
then apply additional filters at run-time (by analysing the W3 files).
- create the skip reports for a few filters (without applying any filters at run-time)

Both ways have worked with similar efficiency. In both cases I have used multiple D3 files and I have also chosen only the best .REP files (those which are currently in a winning streak). That's not the whole story but I can't reveal too many details.

[QUOTE]
General talk about skips can be confusing as skips apply to the lottery games in so many ways.

For example: There are skips of each of the patterns of each of the "Filters" and also there are skips of digits, pairs and whole 3 digits pick 3 numbers.

There are also skips of Winnings (Winning counts or times) in accord to particular or to any prediction method(s), technique(s) and or prediction program(s) used.
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With "Skips" I was referring to the skips of my system (how many drawings my system skips before it hits).

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I guess that you are testing a program and technique here so people will see how well or bad it does maybe to see if in the future sometime they might be interested in it, (?).
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I have already tested the system on thousands of past draws and it performed as mentioned before (50% to 100% profit on average). If enough people are interested in the system (after its efficiency has been proven) I was thinking of setting up a membership site where people could get my daily picks (I will not sell my software).

Boris

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The numbers for todays (Feb. 9th) Pick3 Indiana evening game (37 numbers):

004
008
029
039
043
049
069
079
093
099
103
104
119
166
188
199
205
299
400
448
499
508
511
514
609
619
639
649
709
739
805
808
844
904
907
916
939

The numbers for todays (Feb. 9th) Cash3 Florida game (33 numbers):

002
015
020
056
066
070
079
094
095
098
281
293
390
398
506
509
576
590
659
694
699
704
709
756
761
881
895
946
970
978
990
992
994

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Here are the numbers for todays (Feb. 8th) Pick3 Indiana evening game (31 numbers):

004
008
033
039
055
057
069
079
093
103
104
119
166
188
205
390
398
400
508
511
559
609
619
639
651
653
709
739
754
805
808

Draw:  915     ( -  \$7.75)

OLD/Vtrac

Ptuj
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The numbers for Pick3 Indiana evening game - Feb. 10th (21 numbers):

029
043
049
052
069
092
103
199
205
226
390
400
542
559
709
739
805
907
932
939
955

The numbers for Cash3 Florida game - Feb. 10th (20 numbers):

176
281
376
398
506
509
576
694
709
717
756
876
881
883
889
932
939
978
992
994

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