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# Wheeling by Position

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 Posted: February 19, 2008, 8:02 am - IP Logged

Does anyone know of a wheeling program that allows you to put your own numbers in the postions that you want.  Also, that you are able to use the same number in two positions.  Like having the #5 in the first and second position and or have the #35 in the 4th and the 5th position.  This would be for a Pick 5 game.

Any thoughts ?

Thank you, T1205

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Does anyone know of a wheeling program that allows you to put your own numbers in the postions that you want.  Also, that you are able to use the same number in two positions.  Like having the #5 in the first and second position and or have the #35 in the 4th and the 5th position.  This would be for a Pick 5 game.

Any thoughts ?

Thank you, T1205

The pick-5 numbers are sorted from lowest to highest on the tickets. Positional limits create cause and effect. If 5 must be in the first position or the lowest number, 1, 2, 3, and 4 can't be drawn and for 5 to be in the second position, one of those numbers must be drawn. The same is true if you decide that 35 must be in the 5th position; there is no reason to consider any number higher than 35.

Positional limits can be used as filters in full wheels but if you use them with abbreviated wheels, you're risking losing your win guarantee. Abbreviated wheels mathematically place the amount of numbers in an order. In a wheel like a 3if4of16, you could enter the numbers 1-16 and check the distribution and check where you could place the number 5 so if does hit, it would be in the first or second position.

The more numbers you have that must be in certain positions creates a cause and effect too so it might take a while until you get all of your numbers into the correct positions. It depends on the type and size of the wheel.

Monte Carlo
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 Posted: March 3, 2008, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

Such wheels are not hard to make.

how many numbers for each five position and how many repeated numbers do you want them to appear on which position?

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 Posted: March 5, 2008, 10:58 pm - IP Logged

Hans,

my question is the same, however I need a pick 3 wheel for this??? Help??

_ZEN

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Hans,

my question is the same, however I need a pick 3 wheel for this??? Help??

_ZEN

Pick-3 uses 10 digits and since there are no duplicate numbers in Pick5 games, it would be the same as boxing the 10 digits and getting 120 combinations. (10 x 9 x 8) / (6) = 120 combos. Five numbers would be (5 x 4 x 3) / (6) = 10 combos. Fifteen is (15 x 14 x 13) / (6) = 455 combos.

Monte Carlo
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 Posted: March 6, 2008, 5:21 pm - IP Logged

Again,how many numbers do you want to play,and how many repeated numbers do you want them to appeat at which position?

Whats your expection of winning?Wins a straight or a box one?

And hows your investment plan?Usually people who love playing pick3 would like to play pairs in case they catch right ones,there leaves one digit to be predicted correct to win  at least in box way.

Hans

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