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# Raw material for New System

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New York, NY
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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 10:21 am - IP Logged

Inviting comments and input to turn these observations into STRAIGHTs system.

I took all possible p3 numbers and their short sums and root sums (Great software to do this easily is LotSoft by paurths).

Create a filter comprising Short sum/Root  and looked at their distribution for all p3 straights numbers.

Here is the distribution of

LDR/Rt    Freq
34    75
45    75
23    73
56    73
12    69
67    69
01    63
78    63
89    55
99    55
88    45
91    45
02    36
77    36
13    28
66    28
24    21
55    21
35    15
44    15
33    10
46    10
22    6
57    6
11    3
68    3
00    1
79    1
Totals=    1000

What this means.

1. Notice pair 34 and 45 cover 15 % of all draws. Every 14 DRAWS on average a straight will hit  from  one of these pairs.

Short sum 3 Root 4

 544 535 526 373 571 553 562 436 418 427 580 508 517 445 454 247 238 319 328 157 148 139 229 166 085 067 076 094 049 058 337 292 274 283 364 346 355 193 184 175 256 265 922 913 940 931 760 841 850 832 823 814 904 805 490 751 616 607 391 481 382 409 472 463 634 625 733 742 661 652 643 670 715 724 706

Short sum 4 root 5

 545 536 527 563 572 554 428 437 518 419 446 509 455 248 239 329 158 149 167 077 086 068 374 095 059 284 338 293 275 356 365 347 194 185 176 257 266 923 914 860 950 941 932 770 752 761 842 851 833 824 815 905 806 590 581 482 491 608 617 392 383 473 464 743 626 734 662 635 653 644 680 671 716 725 707

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Kunming
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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 10:34 am - IP Logged

Inviting comments and input to turn these observations into STRAIGHTs system.

I took all possible p3 numbers and their short sums and root sums (Great software to do this easily is LotSoft by paurths).

Create a filter comprising Short sum/Root  and looked at their distribution for all p3 straights numbers.

Here is the distribution of

LDR/Rt    Freq
34    75
45    75
23    73
56    73
12    69
67    69
01    63
78    63
89    55
99    55
88    45
91    45
02    36
77    36
13    28
66    28
24    21
55    21
35    15
44    15
33    10
46    10
22    6
57    6
11    3
68    3
00    1
79    1
Totals=    1000

What this means.

1. Notice pair 34 and 45 cover 15 % of all draws. Every 14 DRAWS on average a straight will hit  from  one of these pairs.

Short sum 3 Root 4

 544 535 526 373 571 553 562 436 418 427 580 508 517 445 454 247 238 319 328 157 148 139 229 166 085 067 076 094 049 058 337 292 274 283 364 346 355 193 184 175 256 265 922 913 940 931 760 841 850 832 823 814 904 805 490 751 616 607 391 481 382 409 472 463 634 625 733 742 661 652 643 670 715 724 706

Short sum 4 root 5

 545 536 527 563 572 554 428 437 518 419 446 509 455 248 239 329 158 149 167 077 086 068 374 095 059 284 338 293 275 356 365 347 194 185 176 257 266 923 914 860 950 941 932 770 752 761 842 851 833 824 815 905 806 590 581 482 491 608 617 392 383 473 464 743 626 734 662 635 653 644 680 671 716 725 707

I only like to play str8 and I think that a system with picking pairs would be great. Can did system pick back pairs? Is lotsoft free?

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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 10:39 am - IP Logged

Note: the pairs are formed by concatenating the Shortsum amd Root sums.

Pair 34 (Short 3, Rt 4) is 7.5% (1 in 14) of all draws, yet is out 30 draws in NY. here athe numbers boxed

 049 058 067 139 148 157 166 229 238 247 256 337 346 355 445

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Kunming
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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 10:44 am - IP Logged

Can you use China numbers as an example? last night was 428 and the previous night was 403. Did you need to use a long history?

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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

Note: the pairs are formed by concatenating the Shortsum amd Root sums.

Pair 34 (Short 3, Rt 4) is 7.5% (1 in 14) of all draws, yet is out 30 draws in NY. here athe numbers boxed

 049 058 067 139 148 157 166 229 238 247 256 337 346 355 445

WOW, good call , 364 in NY midday!!!!

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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:03 pm - IP Logged

Thanks Bashley.

GA has not had a "34" in 33 draws.

 LDR/RT-34 049 058 067 139 148 157 166 229 238 247 256 337 346 355 445

Interestingly "45" has been very hot in GA.

 059 068 077 149 158 167 239 248 257 266 338 347 356 446 455

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Tx
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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 2:42 pm - IP Logged

Out of 1000, 100 is 10% and 200 = 20% so I think that 150 straights are 15%.

In 1000 draws one would think that all one thousand numbers would come out, but some would come out 1 time, some others more than once and some not at all.

If we think that all 1000 numbers would come out on 1000 draws then:

150 particular straights are expected to come out 15% of the time.

So on 100 draws 15 of them would come out.

On 20 draws 3 would come out.

So on (Every) 10 draws 1.5 of them might come out.

So on about 7 (Every) draws one would come out.

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Is that right or did I make mistakes?

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In reality that should or might not be right, not in the short run, but maybe in the very long term (?).

Unless I made a mistake above.

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That might be the same as keeping track of any 150 straight combos, but maybe easier as there are already stats for LDRs and Roots on that program, but not combined stats as "A combined Filters Option" was never implemented, I was not listened to.

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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 2:47 pm - IP Logged

Out of 1000, 100 is 10% and 200 = 20% so I think that 150 straights are 15%.

In 1000 draws one would think that all one thousand numbers would come out, but some would come out 1 time, some others more than once and some not at all.

If we think that all 1000 numbers would come out on 1000 draws then:

150 particular straights are expected to come out 15% of the time.

So on 100 draws 15 of them would come out.

On 20 draws 3 would come out.

So on (Every) 10 draws 1.5 of them might come out.

So on about 7 (Every) draws one would come out.

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Is that right or did I make mistakes?

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In reality that should or might not be right, not in the short run, but maybe in the very long term (?).

Unless I made a mistake above.

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That might be the same as keeping track of any 150 straight combos, but maybe easier as there are already stats for LDRs and Roots on that program, but not combined stats as "A combined Filters Option" was never implemented, I was not listened to.

As there are too many straight a"Simple" "Compound" filter such as that might or would not be enough, best used with something else, so other kind(s) of stat(s)-filter(s).

A good start anyway!

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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 3:39 pm - IP Logged

Note: the pairs are formed by concatenating the Shortsum amd Root sums.

Pair 34 (Short 3, Rt 4) is 7.5% (1 in 14) of all draws, yet is out 30 draws in NY. here athe numbers boxed

 049 058 067 139 148 157 166 229 238 247 256 337 346 355 445

Root Sum: 4 and Sum Last Digit (Short Sum): 3 is the same as:

Sum 13: 049-058-067-139-148-157-166-229-238-247-256-337-346-355-445...(15)

Why use a compound filter when a simple one will do the exact same thing?

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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 3:44 pm - IP Logged

Thanks Bashley.

GA has not had a "34" in 33 draws.

 LDR/RT-34 049 058 067 139 148 157 166 229 238 247 256 337 346 355 445

Interestingly "45" has been very hot in GA.

 059 068 077 149 158 167 239 248 257 266 338 347 356 446 455

Sum 14: 059-068-077-149-158-167-239-248-257-266-338-347-356-446-455...(15)

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Root Sum: 4 and Sum Last Digit (Short Sum): 3 is the same as:

Sum 13: 049-058-067-139-148-157-166-229-238-247-256-337-346-355-445...(15)

Why use a compound filter when a simple one will do the exact same thing?

Raven,

Thanks for the charts. Actually the compound filter I am suggesting has more predictive power. I will of course have to demonstrate over some time.

Tracking a single sum or LDR or Root sum is riskeir than a compound that covers a wider dispersion of numbers. This compound also reduces the linearity somewhat.

Will post some for select states. Let's keep the discussion going. I believe this is is potentially big. have

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 Posted: February 26, 2008, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

Raven,

Thanks for the charts. Actually the compound filter I am suggesting has more predictive power. I will of course have to demonstrate over some time.

Tracking a single sum or LDR or Root sum is riskeir than a compound that covers a wider dispersion of numbers. This compound also reduces the linearity somewhat.

Will post some for select states. Let's keep the discussion going. I believe this is is potentially big. have

Raven as a follow up. I am posting the numbers for GA based on this compound filter. I am on the record. Compound filter 91 has not hit 55 draws and its average is 23 draws. Expect a draw from these numbers before Friday. Call me on it!!

 199 289 379 388 469 478 559 568 577 667

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Raven,

Thanks for the charts. Actually the compound filter I am suggesting has more predictive power. I will of course have to demonstrate over some time.

Tracking a single sum or LDR or Root sum is riskeir than a compound that covers a wider dispersion of numbers. This compound also reduces the linearity somewhat.

Will post some for select states. Let's keep the discussion going. I believe this is is potentially big. have

Granted looking at 28 Sums can be mind boggling, and breaking them into smaller groups makes it easier to visualize where they might go next, but then again using Root Sum & SLD can be confusing too. One overlooked Sum is SFD which eliminates the need to do the math introduced by using Root Sum. I'm looking forward to seeing more on this subject and the related examples associated with them.

A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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This is the distribution of the Compound filter LDR/RT in all 1000 p3 numbers. This shows the compound filter LDR/Rt  Frequency     Average Skips before next draw.

If the current skip is more than the average skip..the compound filter is hot. In tracking NY it's a 100% success so far.

34    75    13.3draws
45    75    13.3draws
23    73    13.7draws
56    73    13.7draws
12    69    14.5draws
67    69    14.5draws
01    63    15.9draws
78    63    15.9draws
89    55    18.2draws
99    55    18.2draws
88    45    22.2draws
91    45    22.2draws
02    36    27.8draws
77    36    27.8draws
13    28    35.7draws
66    28    35.7draws
24    21    47.6draws
55    21    47.6draws
35    15    66.7draws
44    15    66.7draws
33    10    100draws
46    10    100draws
22    6    167draws
57    6    167draws
11    3    333draws
68    3    333draws
00    1    1000draws
79    1    1000draws

I have been tracking NY. It has worked every single day!. This is a great filer. I was chasing a double in Ny because my vtracs showed it due. When I studied this compound filter i knew why the probability of this number showing up soon (beforre many months) is very low because another number with this compound filter fell recently.

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 Posted: February 29, 2008, 11:06 am - IP Logged

NY Compound Filters Due

Midday

12-Hit

01

02

77

66

35

44

33

57

Evening

34-Hit

99

13

44

33

11

68

Mid/Eve

56
67
89
77
35
44
57
68

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