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# powerball and mega challenges

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 Posted: March 17, 2008, 6:28 pm - IP Logged

I enjoy taking part in Maddogg challenges...i have learned from participating...i have notices a little something however with the way many people make their numbers selections and i like to discuss it here...this is not to say i have a better way cause i dont...these are games with very low odds of winning anything significant...just my 2 cents, i think this may improve our chances of getting more hits..give your opinions if you like, we can all learn from sharing ideas....

here's what i noticed:

when someone posts 12 numbers like this: example: 2-9-15-18-21-27-31-33-40-47-51-55...a post like this lists numbers in every 10s group (0s, 10s, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50)..since there are six tenths groups and only 5 white balls will be drawn this means that at least one of them numbers (or maybe more) is automatically wrong (5 numbers cannot come from all 6 groups at one time)...of course that dont mean you can't hit all 5 by a selection like that (raven and rdc got 4 on last mm challenge) but i'm talking about maximizing our potential in our guesses

another example: last pb drawing was 6-22-42-43-47..so it only selected 3 tens groups (one ball in 0s one in 20s and three in 40s)..if someone had posted numbers only in those three tens groups say some selection like this (2-4-6-21-22-25-28-40-41-45-46-49) their chances of hitting would have probably been more as opposed to the first example....my idea here is to take chances and eliminate at least one (or two) tenth group...this will maximize the chances leaving only ~40 balls or less which obviously makes it easier...now of course there is no sure way of telling which tens to select more numbers from and which to skip...in general the 50s will skip more (there are only 6 white balls in 50s in pb and 7 in mega compared with 9 balls in 0s and 10 balls for 10s, 20s 30s and 40s)..

some other examples from Powerball:

Wed, March 12, 2008 12 · 19 · 30 · 34 · 36    (it skiped the 0s group, 20s and 40s and 50s)

Sat, March 8, 2008     17 · 29 · 31 · 34 · 49   (it skiped the 0s group, 40s and 50s)

Wed, February 6, 2008 03 · 05 · 12 · 42 · 43   ( it skiped the 20s group, 30s and 50s)

My next selections in the next PB drawing will be to skip the 30s group..if i'm correct im basically playing a 5/45 game which of course is a bit easier...some of you might have thought about this strategy but anyway i hope my observations can help...

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 Posted: March 17, 2008, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

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 Posted: March 17, 2008, 10:44 pm - IP Logged

I enjoy taking part in Maddogg challenges...i have learned from participating...i have notices a little something however with the way many people make their numbers selections and i like to discuss it here...this is not to say i have a better way cause i dont...these are games with very low odds of winning anything significant...just my 2 cents, i think this may improve our chances of getting more hits..give your opinions if you like, we can all learn from sharing ideas....

here's what i noticed:

when someone posts 12 numbers like this: example: 2-9-15-18-21-27-31-33-40-47-51-55...a post like this lists numbers in every 10s group (0s, 10s, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50)..since there are six tenths groups and only 5 white balls will be drawn this means that at least one of them numbers (or maybe more) is automatically wrong (5 numbers cannot come from all 6 groups at one time)...of course that dont mean you can't hit all 5 by a selection like that (raven and rdc got 4 on last mm challenge) but i'm talking about maximizing our potential in our guesses

another example: last pb drawing was 6-22-42-43-47..so it only selected 3 tens groups (one ball in 0s one in 20s and three in 40s)..if someone had posted numbers only in those three tens groups say some selection like this (2-4-6-21-22-25-28-40-41-45-46-49) their chances of hitting would have probably been more as opposed to the first example....my idea here is to take chances and eliminate at least one (or two) tenth group...this will maximize the chances leaving only ~40 balls or less which obviously makes it easier...now of course there is no sure way of telling which tens to select more numbers from and which to skip...in general the 50s will skip more (there are only 6 white balls in 50s in pb and 7 in mega compared with 9 balls in 0s and 10 balls for 10s, 20s 30s and 40s)..

some other examples from Powerball:

Wed, March 12, 2008 12 · 19 · 30 · 34 · 36    (it skiped the 0s group, 20s and 40s and 50s)

Sat, March 8, 2008     17 · 29 · 31 · 34 · 49   (it skiped the 0s group, 40s and 50s)

Wed, February 6, 2008 03 · 05 · 12 · 42 · 43   ( it skiped the 20s group, 30s and 50s)

My next selections in the next PB drawing will be to skip the 30s group..if i'm correct im basically playing a 5/45 game which of course is a bit easier...some of you might have thought about this strategy but anyway i hope my observations can help...

Interesting you should notice that. I rate the numbers 1-9 as singles; 10-19 as teens; 20-29 as 20's; as so on. I have an excel file that shows how many times each number played in each position since Jan 2005. This tells me that the singles play the most often in the 1st position. No surprise there. Teens play most often in the 2nd position. 20's play most often in the 3rd, 40's most often in the 4th, and 50's in the 5th. Of course, this is not cut in granite. Different decades play in different positions. It is just a way for me to whittle the numbers down a little.

One other thing I have found is that, (I might be giving away a little too much info, but with odds of 176 mil to 1, what the hell) the number 7 plays the most often in the 1st pos; 13 in the 2nd, 31 in the 3rd, 46 in the 4th, and 53 and 54 in the 5th.

If you go on to Texas lottery website, you can check your numbers that you played, and..........

you will find that the combination above has never even come close. Again, this just gives me a way to come up with numbers. Lately, I have been just picking numbers that I think are due, while trying to play the decades that play the most in certain positions. It certainly is not the "holy grail" to picking numbers, just what I use for MM, Texas Lotto, and the Texas 2 Step and Cash 5. I hope this helps somebody out there.

By the way, I do the same with PB, and I was planning on going up to OK to play tomorrow, but guess I'll wait since it was hit. 140 mile round trip, so I don't make the trip unless it gets pretty high. I was planning to go couple weeks ago, and we get a blizzard. Go figure.

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 Posted: March 17, 2008, 11:33 pm - IP Logged

my idea here is to reduce the matrix by eliminating at least one tenths category (i call them 0s, 10s 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s), ...100% of the time it will skip one tens category, 85% of the time it will skip at least two tens category, about 50% it will skip excatly two tens categories, 35% of the time it will skip three tens categories or more (like last two pb drawings although skipping three is somewhat rare)...look at past results and my % will be confirmed...if you make the right skip in tens category you change odds tremendously more than any other filter you can think of (it changes to about a 5/30 game)...of course is not that easy (1 in 6 chance) but at least this tactic should be tried more often for the Maddogg challenges, you dont lose real money there and we should be getting more 4+0 and 5+0 winners...(2+0 and 3+0 winners in those challenges is just not good)..once you decide what tens cat. to skip then choose whatever numbers you like from the rest

in PB and mega the payouts are very low even for matching 4...you have to take risks to hit big...i think its becasue of fear of losing that many people post numbers in every tens category (sort of covering all bases) during those challenges when you know that automatically one tenth group will skip because 5 numbers cannot come from 6 groups..

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 Posted: March 18, 2008, 8:44 am - IP Logged

benmas,

You have a very good point. I dabbled with that strategy on and off. Many times, actually about half the time the first position number will be a teen or even a number in the 20's. And many times the last number will be in the 40's (not sure of the percentage). Of course, like you say, it could be another decade missing in a draw. But, like picking numbers, it's pretty hard to guess which decade is going to skip in a particular draw.

I just took a look at my excel file where I have data for 332 draws. Over 332 draws singles played 80% of those draws. 50's played 63.55% in those draws. Of course, there are only 7 numbers in the 50's decade. All the other decades played 87% - 90%. So, if I were to skip a decade, it would probably be the 50's MOST of the time, certainly not always.  BTW this is taking into account the numbers playing in ALL positions.

I also have a set of numbers I put together, pretend play if you will, of 8 lines. The numbers range from 10 to 49. I just put these together randomly while leaving out the singles and 50's. Every draw I'll compare my numbers. Good thing I don't play those 'cause they lose! LOL. On the face of it, it's playing 40 numbers which cuts the odds a lot, but only if the 2 decades that are left out actually don't play.

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03/18 Results=13-15-20-25-44 MB-37

10-0=0, 10-1=2, 10-2=2, 10-3=0, 10-4=1, 10-5=0 / 10-0=0, 10-1=0, 10-2=0, 10-3=1, 10-4=0

Pattern: 022010 / 00010

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 Posted: March 19, 2008, 7:21 pm - IP Logged

03/18 Results=13-15-20-25-44 MB-37

10-0=0, 10-1=2, 10-2=2, 10-3=0, 10-4=1, 10-5=0 / 10-0=0, 10-1=0, 10-2=0, 10-3=1, 10-4=0

Pattern: 022010 / 00010

YES..that also is an example of what i'm talking about...that draw skipped 3 decades 0s, 30s,50s..

one could have gueesed a skip in 50 ok most of time but the skips in 0s, 10s, 20s,30s are harder to guess...

also patterns like this: 121100 (shuffle around the 2111 numbers) draw out 50% of time...that means its generally good idea to skip 2 decades when making picks...its easier and more beneficial to make eliminations than to make picks (guessing a number is 1/55 or 1/56 but guessing a decade skip is 1/6)

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