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# Give Me Your Take on this Question

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 Posted: May 15, 2008, 6:18 pm - IP Logged

I have been using Paurths Pick4 numbers from 6 way tool along with TnTea's on going Straights using the same tool.  I have been able to reduce the plays from 260 on avg. down to about 85-90... so around \$20 to play them all straight.

My question is my final reduction process... it deals with either playing only numbers that either HAVE or DO NOT HAVE a digit in it from the previous number called.  Does anyone have any idea which way I should go here?

The last two nights both had the straight in it... the first night I went with the number NOT having any digits from the night before and it had a repeating digit, so the next night I went with a repeating digit and it never had one... both nights had the straight in there just chose the wrong side to play.  Is there a way to make this make sense in choosing the correct side to play?

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The way I was taught was that the majority of the time (70-78%), atleast 1 number is repeated in the next drawing. And about 25% of the time, 2 of the previous will show. The remaining (the variable) is a variable which to this day is a debatable one as far as what number can be inserted...lol

Your third number might include an overdue to fill that variable.

Or, it might be an odd/even tracking, and so on. Maybe even a combination of all of the above...lol

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 Posted: May 15, 2008, 9:11 pm - IP Logged

I think the percentages will vary depending on state you are playing., and when.  there are times the repeats will be 80+ percent then fall off. among other things I watch how long it has been since there was not a repeat #. after 7 days with repeats i expect 1 or more no repeats.  in the end its a guess.  an informed guess is better than a wag imho.

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 Posted: May 15, 2008, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

Thanks for the input guys...

I have to agree with Paurths that the repeat seems to be higher for some reason.  I guess I should just stick to them in my factoring and would have had at least 1 hit in the last two nights.

Thanks again for the input fella's!!

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001 003 004 005 007 009 024 025 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 122 124 125 183 281 305 315 335 345 360 365 383 395 404 414 424 434 444 454 474 483 484 494 550 551 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 624 625 627 634 654 664 674 722 724 760 770 771 772 773 774 776 777 778 779 810 840 850 865 869 883 922 983

Let's look at these for PA

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 Posted: May 18, 2008, 12:08 am - IP Logged

I have been using Paurths Pick4 numbers from 6 way tool along with TnTea's on going Straights using the same tool.  I have been able to reduce the plays from 260 on avg. down to about 85-90... so around \$20 to play them all straight.

My question is my final reduction process... it deals with either playing only numbers that either HAVE or DO NOT HAVE a digit in it from the previous number called.  Does anyone have any idea which way I should go here?

The last two nights both had the straight in it... the first night I went with the number NOT having any digits from the night before and it had a repeating digit, so the next night I went with a repeating digit and it never had one... both nights had the straight in there just chose the wrong side to play.  Is there a way to make this make sense in choosing the correct side to play?

try working with a frequently drawn group.

create your own groups if desired.

I use these as groups. you may have seen them before.

13 low odds

024 low evens

579 high odds

68 high evens

just try to figure what number from a group will come back as a reapeat or a number from a group that will show.

Also try to figure when a group may not show

I will show the 024 group in canada draws here.

Quebec La Quotidienne 4 Previous Lottery Results Draw Date   Results
Sat, May 17, 2008   2-0-3-6  0 and 2
Fri, May 16, 2008     2-5-6-8  2
Thu, May 15, 2008    2-1-3-2  2
Wed, May 14, 2008   3-6-4-3  4
Tue, May 13, 2008   1-9-5-4    4
Mon, May 12, 2008  9-3-4-5    4
Sun, May 11, 2008  2-5-5-2     2
Sat, May 10, 2008   3-9-0-9     0
Fri, May 9, 2008      4-2-5-9     2 and 4
Thu, May 8, 2008     4-8-1-8    4

Ontario Pick 4 Previous Lottery Results Draw Date   Results
Sat, May 17, 2008     3-3-1-9
Fri, May 16, 2008      8-6-5-9
Thu, May 15, 2008     1-8-3-2    2
Wed, May 14, 2008    6-3-2-4    2 and 4
Tue, May 13, 2008     1-1-0-8    0
Mon, May 12, 2008    8-2-7-4     2 and 4
Sun, May 11, 2008    0-3-7-8     0
Sat, May 10, 2008     4-7-6-5     4
Fri, May 9, 2008        8-0-2-8      0 and 2
Thu, May 8, 2008      0-5-1-8      0

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 Posted: May 18, 2008, 1:24 am - IP Logged

I have been using Paurths Pick4 numbers from 6 way tool along with TnTea's on going Straights using the same tool.  I have been able to reduce the plays from 260 on avg. down to about 85-90... so around \$20 to play them all straight.

My question is my final reduction process... it deals with either playing only numbers that either HAVE or DO NOT HAVE a digit in it from the previous number called.  Does anyone have any idea which way I should go here?

The last two nights both had the straight in it... the first night I went with the number NOT having any digits from the night before and it had a repeating digit, so the next night I went with a repeating digit and it never had one... both nights had the straight in there just chose the wrong side to play.  Is there a way to make this make sense in choosing the correct side to play?

There are two types of repeats: digit repeats by exact positon and  digit repeats regardless of position..not sure which one you are asking about here

in P4 there is a 29.2% chance of a number on next draw that will contain one same digit by position as last draw example: night 1) 2308 night 2) 2485...notice that in P1 the same digit was repeated on next draw and the others were not repeats by position...

If you are asking about repeats regardless of positions than it is much harder but roughly the % go

40% one repeat, 35% two repeats, 15% no repeats, and 7% three repeats..... however sometimes one digit repeat can mean one number that repeated but it repeated as two occurences

say for example night 1) 1569 night 2) 5358..there was one digit repeat (the 5) but it came out two times as a double in night 2

there is no clear cut way for repeats..go with the highest percentages or your gut feeling

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 Posted: May 18, 2008, 12:18 pm - IP Logged

Great info guys ... thanks!

I was looking at pick 3 actually and as far as where the repeating digit is, that doesn't matter.

Paurths system generates them to be played as straights... so as long as the repeating digit is kept and its one that the system generated it should work unless it was deducted in ther reduction process like I did last night ...AGAIN!!

I reduced the number of plays from 260ish down to about 80, but one of the reduction methods was to eliminate the longest 3 pairs out of the group... unfortunately for me, 1-8 was one of the pairs that was reduced as 810 was called and was in the straights to play.

Probably will see this alot.

I was hashing around the idea of keeping longest pairs out, in play and reducing the recently hit pairs instead, but if they are hot, they usually come out...right?  So not sure if I should move away from the process I found, or stick to it and see where it takes me.

Paurths program is great... its just reducing the correct number... repeater or non repeater.  Since a digit is suppose to repeat at over 70% of the time, thats good enough for me to just stick with the repeaters, as i see it does seem to hit that high here in Western Canada.

Thanks again for all the feedback!

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 Posted: May 18, 2008, 12:22 pm - IP Logged

001 003 004 005 007 009 024 025 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 122 124 125 183 281 305 315 335 345 360 365 383 395 404 414 424 434 444 454 474 483 484 494 550 551 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 624 625 627 634 654 664 674 722 724 760 770 771 772 773 774 776 777 778 779 810 840 850 865 869 883 922 983

Let's look at these for PA

Not sure if these were midday or evening but Evening hit a str8 --  117

Nice Work!!

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Both...  I combined the two .. Use last seven draws.. Took out the last few played digits and came up with the list.

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Both...  I combined the two .. Use last seven draws.. Took out the last few played digits and came up with the list.

Well done!

We are all Lucky... just some of us don't realize it!

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I have been using Paurths Pick4 numbers from 6 way tool along with TnTea's on going Straights using the same tool.  I have been able to reduce the plays from 260 on avg. down to about 85-90... so around \$20 to play them all straight.

My question is my final reduction process... it deals with either playing only numbers that either HAVE or DO NOT HAVE a digit in it from the previous number called.  Does anyone have any idea which way I should go here?

The last two nights both had the straight in it... the first night I went with the number NOT having any digits from the night before and it had a repeating digit, so the next night I went with a repeating digit and it never had one... both nights had the straight in there just chose the wrong side to play.  Is there a way to make this make sense in choosing the correct side to play?

Test>Test>Test>Test>>>

translation:

\$PEND>\$PEND>moe\$\$\$

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get you 1 number play it for 7 days and the number will catch you, you will never  hit if you try to catch a number like that, sit back play for 1 week and watch your results

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