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# Pick 3 Spread System

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Here's an idea in the works. This is what I call spreads for Pick 3. You can simplify a pick 3 draw with just one digit by subtracting the lowest digit from the highest digit in the last winning pick. This will give you a number between 0 and 9. If you work out the last 30 days into it's spread digits, you can find out what spreads are more common. Then you can take those groups of picks and start filtering.

I think this has some good potential. It certainly sheds a new light on the Pick 3.

Use your imagination and tweak it anyway you like. Post your ideas and maybe I'll write a program using it which would include filters, key digits, and whatever else sounds good.

Spread Breakdown for Pick 3 (All 220 Combinations)

0 = 10 Picks

000 111 222 333 444 555 666 777 888 999

1 = 18 Picks

001 011 112 122 223 233 334 344 445
455 556 566 667 677 778 788 889 899

2 = 24 Picks

002 012 022 113 123 133 224 234
244 335 345 355 446 456 466 557
567 577 668 678 688 779 789 799

3 = 28 Picks

003 013 023 033 114 124 134
144 225 235 245 255 336 346
356 366 447 457 467 477 558
568 578 588 669 679 689 699

4 = 30 Picks

004 014 024 034 044 115
125 135 145 155 226 236
246 256 266 337 347 357
367 377 448 458 468 478
488 559 569 579 589 599

5 = 30 Picks

005 015 025 035 045 055
116 126 136 146 156 166
227 237 247 257 267 277
338 348 358 368 378 388
449 459 469 479 489 499

6 = 28 Picks

006 016 026 036 046 056 066
117 127 137 147 157 167 177
228 238 248 258 268 278 288
339 349 359 369 379 389 399

7 = 24 Picks

007 017 027 037 047 057 067 077
118 128 138 148 158 168 178 188
229 239 249 259 269 279 289 299

8 = 18 Picks

008 018 028 038 048 058 068 078 088
119 129 139 149 159 169 179 189 199

9 = 10 Picks

009 019 029 039 049 059 069 079 089 099

Steve

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Oklahoma Pick 3 Spreads for the last 30 days

7
7
1
7
6
8
6
9
3
2
2
6
6
3
5
7
4
6
2
7
4
4
1
4
6
3
1
2
6
8

0=0
1=3
2=4 <
3=3
4=4 <
5=1
6=7 <
7=5 <
8=2
9=1

The spread digit 4 has been out pretty long.

After doing some filtering using the spread groups 2, 4, 6, and 7, I decided on these picks from spread group 4 for tonight.

Oklahoma Pick 3 for May 25, 2008

024, 125, 145

Steve

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Here's an idea in the works. This is what I call spreads for Pick 3. You can simplify a pick 3 draw with just one digit by subtracting the lowest digit from the highest digit in the last winning pick. This will give you a number between 0 and 9. If you work out the last 30 days into it's spread digits, you can find out what spreads are more common. Then you can take those groups of picks and start filtering.

I think this has some good potential. It certainly sheds a new light on the Pick 3.

Use your imagination and tweak it anyway you like. Post your ideas and maybe I'll write a program using it which would include filters, key digits, and whatever else sounds good.

Spread Breakdown for Pick 3 (All 220 Combinations)

0 = 10 Picks

000 111 222 333 444 555 666 777 888 999

1 = 18 Picks

001 011 112 122 223 233 334 344 445
455 556 566 667 677 778 788 889 899

2 = 24 Picks

002 012 022 113 123 133 224 234
244 335 345 355 446 456 466 557
567 577 668 678 688 779 789 799

3 = 28 Picks

003 013 023 033 114 124 134
144 225 235 245 255 336 346
356 366 447 457 467 477 558
568 578 588 669 679 689 699

4 = 30 Picks

004 014 024 034 044 115
125 135 145 155 226 236
246 256 266 337 347 357
367 377 448 458 468 478
488 559 569 579 589 599

5 = 30 Picks

005 015 025 035 045 055
116 126 136 146 156 166
227 237 247 257 267 277
338 348 358 368 378 388
449 459 469 479 489 499

6 = 28 Picks

006 016 026 036 046 056 066
117 127 137 147 157 167 177
228 238 248 258 268 278 288
339 349 359 369 379 389 399

7 = 24 Picks

007 017 027 037 047 057 067 077
118 128 138 148 158 168 178 188
229 239 249 259 269 279 289 299

8 = 18 Picks

008 018 028 038 048 058 068 078 088
119 129 139 149 159 169 179 189 199

9 = 10 Picks

009 019 029 039 049 059 069 079 089 099

Steve, this is also known as Linewidths. Highest digit - Lowest digit. Very good filter. Another good filter Adjacent Number, I have only seen this in a Pick 5 or 6 game. I'm thinking about using it in Pick 3 & 4. Yes or No or Y, N

Draw = 467   4 to 6 = N

4 to 7 = N

6 to 7 = Y

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I have a big list of numbers for the Pick 4 that includes singles and doubles only with spreads 6 or higher. That seems to be where the majority of the hits come from.

Singles and Doubles with a spread of 6 or higher
between the lowest digit and the highest digit

336 Picks

0016, 0017, 0018, 0019, 0026, 0027, 0028, 0029, 0036, 0037
0038, 0039, 0046, 0047, 0048, 0049, 0056, 0057, 0058, 0059
0067, 0068, 0069, 0078, 0079, 0089, 0116, 0117, 0118, 0119
0126, 0127, 0128, 0129, 0136, 0137, 0138, 0139, 0146, 0147
0148, 0149, 0156, 0157, 0158, 0159, 0166, 0167, 0168, 0169
0177, 0178, 0179, 0188, 0189, 0199, 0226, 0227, 0228, 0229
0236, 0237, 0238, 0239, 0246, 0247, 0248, 0249, 0256, 0257
0258, 0259, 0266, 0267, 0268, 0269, 0277, 0278, 0279, 0288
0289, 0299, 0336, 0337, 0338, 0339, 0346, 0347, 0348, 0349
0356, 0357, 0358, 0359, 0366, 0367, 0368, 0369, 0377, 0378
0379, 0388, 0389, 0399, 0446, 0447, 0448, 0449, 0456, 0457
0458, 0459, 0466, 0467, 0468, 0469, 0477, 0478, 0479, 0488
0489, 0499, 0556, 0557, 0558, 0559, 0566, 0567, 0568, 0569
0577, 0578, 0579, 0588, 0589, 0599, 0667, 0668, 0669, 0677
0678, 0679, 0688, 0689, 0699, 0778, 0779, 0788, 0789, 0799
0889, 0899, 1127, 1128, 1129, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1147, 1148
1149, 1157, 1158, 1159, 1167, 1168, 1169, 1178, 1179, 1189
1227, 1228, 1229, 1237, 1238, 1239, 1247, 1248, 1249, 1257
1258, 1259, 1267, 1268, 1269, 1277, 1278, 1279, 1288, 1289
1299, 1337, 1338, 1339, 1347, 1348, 1349, 1357, 1358, 1359
1367, 1368, 1369, 1377, 1378, 1379, 1388, 1389, 1399, 1447
1448, 1449, 1457, 1458, 1459, 1467, 1468, 1469, 1477, 1478
1479, 1488, 1489, 1499, 1557, 1558, 1559, 1566, 1567, 1568
1569, 1577, 1578, 1579, 1588, 1589, 1599, 1667, 1668, 1669
1677, 1678, 1679, 1688, 1689, 1699, 1778, 1779, 1788, 1789
1799, 1889, 1899, 2238, 2239, 2248, 2249, 2258, 2259, 2268
2269, 2278, 2279, 2289, 2338, 2339, 2348, 2349, 2358, 2359
2368, 2369, 2378, 2379, 2388, 2389, 2399, 2448, 2449, 2458
2459, 2468, 2469, 2478, 2479, 2488, 2489, 2499, 2558, 2559
2568, 2569, 2578, 2579, 2588, 2589, 2599, 2668, 2669, 2678
2679, 2688, 2689, 2699, 2778, 2779, 2788, 2789, 2799, 2889
2899, 3349, 3359, 3369, 3379, 3389, 3449, 3459, 3469, 3479
3489, 3499, 3559, 3569, 3579, 3589, 3599, 3669, 3679, 3689
3699, 3779, 3789, 3799, 3889, 3899

71% of the hits last night were in this list, and although that's much better than random, it's a long way away from figuring out how to break down the list and make smart decisions on playing just a handful of picks.

Steve

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Good idea Steve, and great work on the project.

Consider this:

9+1=0 making the difference between 8 & 9=1 and 9 & 0=1

The end result you could have 6 groups (0 thru 5) instead of 10 groups (0 thru 9).

Just something to consider.

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Good idea Steve, and great work on the project.

Consider this:

9+1=0 making the difference between 8 & 9=1 and 9 & 0=1

The end result you could have 6 groups (0 thru 5) instead of 10 groups (0 thru 9).

Just something to consider.

So, that would be +/- spreads, right?

123 would be a spread of 2 and 4?

Not sure I follow...

Steve

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So, that would be +/- spreads, right?

123 would be a spread of 2 and 4?

Not sure I follow...

Where does 4 come from? I don't follow.

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Where does 4 come from? I don't follow.

I don't know. I guess 3+1 = 4

So, 8-2 is the same as 8-12 = 4, right?

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I don't know. I guess 3+1 = 4

So, 8-2 is the same as 8-12 = 4, right?

Right! Good old Lottery Math.

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Oklahoma Pick 3 Spreads for the last 30 days

7
7
1
7
6
8
6
9
3
2
2
6
6
3
5
7
4
6
2
7
4
4
1
4
6
3
1
2
6
8

0=0
1=3
2=4 <
3=3
4=4 <
5=1
6=7 <
7=5 <
8=2
9=1

The spread digit 4 has been out pretty long.

After doing some filtering using the spread groups 2, 4, 6, and 7, I decided on these picks from spread group 4 for tonight.

Oklahoma Pick 3 for May 25, 2008

024, 125, 145

sfilippo>>>

This is a very exciting approach you have taken by finding the numbers between the high and low of a draw. I use GH considerably to determine P3 and P4. To round off what you have here must present a set of numbers to play for the next draw, and I see that you have a selection of 3 sets; 024, 125 and 145. This is fine. You have determined that one of these sets may hit with your filtering method for the number 4. Good luck with them.

On a further note I have set up GH to perform a function of knowing the next number in Position 1. I call it 'LOOP SYSTEM' and you may  be able to use this method also in your new approach here. Basically, I load as data the 1st and 3rd numbers only. When I look at one of the Boards in GH, it will show me the number of HITS for any P3 number with certain OUTS associated with it. In this way I can have 1 number in the next game. [in some cases it has given me all 3 numbers from 4 or 5]  What follows the 3rd number will be the first in the next draw. This prceedure can be set up in Excel or any other program desire you can figure out. You have programming skills that I do not. Actually, I posted this LOOP SYSTEM here in the LP several years ago for those who have GH and wanted a bit more depth in finding a number for the next draw.

Now consider what you can do with this idea. You could take it further into your system by looking at those variances in hits between 2 numbers as you mentioned. So knowing 1 number can bring you closer into your number selection as indicated in your first post. If 1 number has HIT LOOP tendencies more than others then by surveying those 'inbetween' numbers of H/L could signal a special set to play. And perhaps just 1 betset too! The DOUBLES are still difficult to see, I have GH set for that also, but that's for another day's discussion.

I'll continue to read what others may post here, I may even set up GH in a way to see these H/L differences over the past years.

Thanks for broadening my horizon. Take care.

yt

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Here's an idea in the works. This is what I call spreads for Pick 3. You can simplify a pick 3 draw with just one digit by subtracting the lowest digit from the highest digit in the last winning pick. This will give you a number between 0 and 9. If you work out the last 30 days into it's spread digits, you can find out what spreads are more common. Then you can take those groups of picks and start filtering.

I think this has some good potential. It certainly sheds a new light on the Pick 3.

Use your imagination and tweak it anyway you like. Post your ideas and maybe I'll write a program using it which would include filters, key digits, and whatever else sounds good.

Spread Breakdown for Pick 3 (All 220 Combinations)

0 = 10 Picks

000 111 222 333 444 555 666 777 888 999

1 = 18 Picks

001 011 112 122 223 233 334 344 445
455 556 566 667 677 778 788 889 899

2 = 24 Picks

002 012 022 113 123 133 224 234
244 335 345 355 446 456 466 557
567 577 668 678 688 779 789 799

3 = 28 Picks

003 013 023 033 114 124 134
144 225 235 245 255 336 346
356 366 447 457 467 477 558
568 578 588 669 679 689 699

4 = 30 Picks

004 014 024 034 044 115
125 135 145 155 226 236
246 256 266 337 347 357
367 377 448 458 468 478
488 559 569 579 589 599

5 = 30 Picks

005 015 025 035 045 055
116 126 136 146 156 166
227 237 247 257 267 277
338 348 358 368 378 388
449 459 469 479 489 499

6 = 28 Picks

006 016 026 036 046 056 066
117 127 137 147 157 167 177
228 238 248 258 268 278 288
339 349 359 369 379 389 399

7 = 24 Picks

007 017 027 037 047 057 067 077
118 128 138 148 158 168 178 188
229 239 249 259 269 279 289 299

8 = 18 Picks

008 018 028 038 048 058 068 078 088
119 129 139 149 159 169 179 189 199

9 = 10 Picks

009 019 029 039 049 059 069 079 089 099

Sounds good. Will look into it with TN.

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Sun, Mar 30, 2008 Sat, Mar 29, 2008 Fri, Mar 28, 2008 Thu, Mar 27, 2008 7-1-8 8-8-5-2 4-1-8 6-5-9 8-4-9-5 6-5-2-1 5-8-7 8-2-9 1-1-4-8 5-6-5-7 6-4-9 2-7-3 0-4-1-8 2-3-7-7 9-4-5 6-0-2 7-5-4-8 5-4-4-6 4-5-1 4-6-6 1-5-7-2 2-5-5-1

This is TN.. observation here.   Take March 25 midday....   Subtract  Lowest from highest...  5-1 =4  now put that 4 with the highest... next day that pair came.

Look at March 25th evening... Subtract lowest from highest   6-4=2  Now put 2 with highest   62...  that pair played the next night.

Look at March 26th midday   9-4=5   put 5 with 9... That pair showed March 29th... Now wait... watch... March 27midday  9-4=5  95 agin....

Keep searching and we will find something that will help build the bank.

OLD/Vtrac

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Right! Good old Lottery Math.

+0/-0
00 11 22 33 44 55 66 77 88 99 ... 10

+1/-1
01 09 12 23 34 45 56 67 78 89 ... 10

+2/-2
02 08 13 19 24 35 46 57 68 79 ... 10

+3/-3
03 07 14 18 25 29 36 47 58 69 ... 10

+4/-4
04 06 15 17 26 28 37 39 48 59 ... 10

+5/-5
05 16 27 38 49 .................. 05

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I have a big list of numbers for the Pick 4 that includes singles and doubles only with spreads 6 or higher. That seems to be where the majority of the hits come from.

Singles and Doubles with a spread of 6 or higher
between the lowest digit and the highest digit

336 Picks

0016, 0017, 0018, 0019, 0026, 0027, 0028, 0029, 0036, 0037
0038, 0039, 0046, 0047, 0048, 0049, 0056, 0057, 0058, 0059
0067, 0068, 0069, 0078, 0079, 0089, 0116, 0117, 0118, 0119
0126, 0127, 0128, 0129, 0136, 0137, 0138, 0139, 0146, 0147
0148, 0149, 0156, 0157, 0158, 0159, 0166, 0167, 0168, 0169
0177, 0178, 0179, 0188, 0189, 0199, 0226, 0227, 0228, 0229
0236, 0237, 0238, 0239, 0246, 0247, 0248, 0249, 0256, 0257
0258, 0259, 0266, 0267, 0268, 0269, 0277, 0278, 0279, 0288
0289, 0299, 0336, 0337, 0338, 0339, 0346, 0347, 0348, 0349
0356, 0357, 0358, 0359, 0366, 0367, 0368, 0369, 0377, 0378
0379, 0388, 0389, 0399, 0446, 0447, 0448, 0449, 0456, 0457
0458, 0459, 0466, 0467, 0468, 0469, 0477, 0478, 0479, 0488
0489, 0499, 0556, 0557, 0558, 0559, 0566, 0567, 0568, 0569
0577, 0578, 0579, 0588, 0589, 0599, 0667, 0668, 0669, 0677
0678, 0679, 0688, 0689, 0699, 0778, 0779, 0788, 0789, 0799
0889, 0899, 1127, 1128, 1129, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1147, 1148
1149, 1157, 1158, 1159, 1167, 1168, 1169, 1178, 1179, 1189
1227, 1228, 1229, 1237, 1238, 1239, 1247, 1248, 1249, 1257
1258, 1259, 1267, 1268, 1269, 1277, 1278, 1279, 1288, 1289
1299, 1337, 1338, 1339, 1347, 1348, 1349, 1357, 1358, 1359
1367, 1368, 1369, 1377, 1378, 1379, 1388, 1389, 1399, 1447
1448, 1449, 1457, 1458, 1459, 1467, 1468, 1469, 1477, 1478
1479, 1488, 1489, 1499, 1557, 1558, 1559, 1566, 1567, 1568
1569, 1577, 1578, 1579, 1588, 1589, 1599, 1667, 1668, 1669
1677, 1678, 1679, 1688, 1689, 1699, 1778, 1779, 1788, 1789
1799, 1889, 1899, 2238, 2239, 2248, 2249, 2258, 2259, 2268
2269, 2278, 2279, 2289, 2338, 2339, 2348, 2349, 2358, 2359
2368, 2369, 2378, 2379, 2388, 2389, 2399, 2448, 2449, 2458
2459, 2468, 2469, 2478, 2479, 2488, 2489, 2499, 2558, 2559
2568, 2569, 2578, 2579, 2588, 2589, 2599, 2668, 2669, 2678
2679, 2688, 2689, 2699, 2778, 2779, 2788, 2789, 2799, 2889
2899, 3349, 3359, 3369, 3379, 3389, 3449, 3459, 3469, 3479
3489, 3499, 3559, 3569, 3579, 3589, 3599, 3669, 3679, 3689
3699, 3779, 3789, 3799, 3889, 3899

71% of the hits last night were in this list, and although that's much better than random, it's a long way away from figuring out how to break down the list and make smart decisions on playing just a handful of picks.

Thanks sfilippo for sharing your information, great job as always!

There are many ways in which this list could be broken down, sums, followers, EEOO's etc. However I like putting them into groups using the mates, mirrors & the totals, especially the pick 4s that contain doubles, they yield more money of course.

For example:

0016 (mate of 0116 & 0166) the mirror 5561.

0116 (mate of 0016 & 0166), the mirror 5661

0166 (mate of 0016 & 0116), the mirror 5611

0016 The total (subtract the # from 9999) 9983

0116 The total 9883

0166 The total 9833

Now we have a set to watch:

0016 5561 9983

0116 5661 9883

0166 5611 9833

Draw Date  State  Game  Results
Sun, May 25, 2008Multi-StateTri-State Pick 45-1-1-6
Thu, May 22, 2008OregonPick 4 7pm5-6-1-5
Thu, May 22, 2008South CarolinaMidday 41-1-0-6
Mon, May 19, 2008MissouriPick 41-5-5-6
Fri, May 16, 2008KentuckyPick 49-3-8-9
Thu, May 15, 2008TennesseeCash 46-0-6-1
Sun, May 11, 2008MassachusettsNumbers6-0-1-0
Sat, May 10, 2008West VirginiaDaily 46-1-5-1
Sat, May 3, 2008IndianaMidday 41-5-6-5
Fri, May 2, 2008MarylandPick 46-0-0-1

Now let's take a look at May. You will notice that the mates & mirrors are playing more so than the total this time around.

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Steve if I am reading that right..Looks like you can just about count on GROUP 6 showing at least once a week +/- a day or so..that alone is worth watching for..group 6 came out 7 times if I am looking at that right..that is a little better average than ONCE PER WEEK..almost an average of twice a week...

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