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Pinback's avatar - driver
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Posted: September 9, 2008, 3:15 pm - IP Logged

Play $8 (8 plays) each day.  Play all 39 numbers + one duplicate of your choice.  You will match the 5 winning numbers every single day.  Half the battle is won.  Now you just need some luck to get the 5 winning numbers to appear together on just one of the eight plays.

(The grid at the bottom may be missing a few lines.  It looks fine here in the editor, but in preview it was less than perfect.  Oh well... you get the idea...

 

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    Posted: September 10, 2008, 5:18 pm - IP Logged

    PB:

    Are UR system???????????

    Line (1).........1-2-3-4-5

    Line (2).........6-7-8-9-10

    Line (3).........11-12-13-14-15

    ***********************

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    Line (8) 36-37-38-39-(plug 1-in)

    ONLY a PSYKO can ask a stupid?????????

    LOL

    PSYKOMO

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      Posted: September 10, 2008, 5:48 pm - IP Logged

      No, no... you put any number you want in each of the squares.  The order you use them is entirely up to you.  Use each number ONLY ONCE (mark them off at the top as you use them to help keep track).  Put any number (1-39) in the final square.

      When you're done, you'll have 8 plays that use all 39 numbers... so no matter what the 5 winning number are, you will have them all in your 8 plays.  Half the battle is just HAVING the winning numbers on your tickets, so this takes care of that.  Getting the 5 numbers to fall together in the same play is where the luck comes in...

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        Posted: September 12, 2008, 2:23 pm - IP Logged

        Of course if you play all the numbers you are going to have all the winning numbers, but are you going to have them gropuped so as to win more than the cost of the play?

        In Pick 5 you usually hit 0 or 1 number, which doesn't pay, in Pick 6 it's 0, 1, or 2 mumbers, which doesn't pay.

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          Posted: September 12, 2008, 2:45 pm - IP Logged

          Of course if you play all the numbers you are going to have all the winning numbers, but are you going to have them gropuped so as to win more than the cost of the play?

          In Pick 5 you usually hit 0 or 1 number, which doesn't pay, in Pick 6 it's 0, 1, or 2 mumbers, which doesn't pay.

          I don't play to win my $8 back.  I play for exactly one reason... to win the jackpot.  There is really no other reason to play.

          Therefore, the smartest way to play is to play my way... using all of the possible numbers.

          Playing 11 (or whatever) out of 39 numbers and wheeling them is pointless, because if any winning number isn't in the numbers you wheeled... you have ZERO chance to win the jackpot that day.

          My method gives you a chance to win the jackpot EVERY SINGLE DAY!  There will NEVER be a day where you don't have a chance to win the jackpot, because the winning numbers will ALWAYS be on your $8 worth of tickets!

          If your goal is to break even or win a little more than you bet, then I can't help you.  I'm all about the jackpot, and my way is the best way to have a chance to win that jackpot every single drawing.

          And if someone can't afford to blow the $8 a day, then they shouldn't be playing anyway!

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            Posted: September 12, 2008, 11:44 pm - IP Logged

            Pinback

            I agree, the goal is inded to hit a jackpot. But to me $8 a drawing for a daily game is a little steep.

            As far as what people can afford to play, that is not necessarily what they're willing to blow on the lottery.

            Not every $1 and $2 player out there can only afford to play $1 or $2, but that's what they play.

            As far as who should and shouldn't be playing the lottery, I don;t think that's your call, or mine.

            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

            Lep

            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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              Posted: September 13, 2008, 11:57 am - IP Logged

              Pinback

              I agree, the goal is inded to hit a jackpot. But to me $8 a drawing for a daily game is a little steep.

              As far as what people can afford to play, that is not necessarily what they're willing to blow on the lottery.

              Not every $1 and $2 player out there can only afford to play $1 or $2, but that's what they play.

              As far as who should and shouldn't be playing the lottery, I don;t think that's your call, or mine.

              Ah, gottcha.  I hadn't considered $8 a day to be too much, because I used to blow more than that easily on drinks and food at work each day!

              I saw another thread with a wheel that costs $22 a day... and THAT looked steep to me!

              Well anyway... it takes $8 a day to play all 39 numbers, so that is the minimum for anyone who wants a real chance (have all five winning numbers every drawing) to win the jackpot every single day.

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                Posted: September 13, 2008, 4:18 pm - IP Logged

                No, no... you put any number you want in each of the squares.  The order you use them is entirely up to you.  Use each number ONLY ONCE (mark them off at the top as you use them to help keep track).  Put any number (1-39) in the final square.

                When you're done, you'll have 8 plays that use all 39 numbers... so no matter what the 5 winning number are, you will have them all in your 8 plays.  Half the battle is just HAVING the winning numbers on your tickets, so this takes care of that.  Getting the 5 numbers to fall together in the same play is where the luck comes in...

                I am going to try your system tonight.....already got my numbers from your chart in place and will let you know if I win anything.....getting the $8 worth like you suggested.....I usually get quick picks...think I'll get 2 of them to go with these and see what happens.

                Wish me luck!

                And good luck to everybody!..See Ya!

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                  Posted: September 13, 2008, 10:22 pm - IP Logged

                  Best of luck to you!

                  I do the same thing and fill out my 8 plays with two auto picks... just to make it an even $10 a day.  But the quick picks are always horrid and I never win anything with them.  But I got three numbers together in Ohio tonight and got $10 out of it.  At least my play tomorrow is free!

                  There are actually ways to put the odds even more in your favor, but they are all but impossible to do manually.  You can make still better plays by either (1) making sure none of the 8 plays have ever had a 4 or 5 hit previously, or (2) make sure the 8 plays (all together) have the highest number of 4 hits previously.  I ran extensive tests for two months and both of those things clearly gave better results.  But like I said, there is no way anyone can do that manually, because both require comparing all 8 sets against the entire draw history for the game.  I'm a programmer, so I wrote a program to do all that while I was testing to figure out what worked best.

                  As an extra tip, I also discovered during that two months of testing that the best results come if you play what I call a "tight" game.  That is... if in the first column of your eight plays you only use the numbers 1-8, the second column only use the numbers 9-16, the third column only use the numbers 17-24, the fourth column only use the number 25-32, and the fifth column only use the numbers 33-39.  This result was completely unexpected by me, because I thought that "loose" play would be the best (where any column could have any number that had actually ever appeared in that column in a previous drawing).  But it turns out that keeping it tight gives at least double the results (in actual money won).

                  I also need to mention that my idea was not created with the short term in mind.  I can make a living doing this if I can win the jackpot just ONCE per year.  So I'm playing this system every day for a year.  If I can win at least once a year, then I'm set for life.  If not... back to the drawing board.

                  Anyway... good luck!

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                    Posted: September 14, 2008, 10:34 am - IP Logged

                    Best of luck to you!

                    I do the same thing and fill out my 8 plays with two auto picks... just to make it an even $10 a day.  But the quick picks are always horrid and I never win anything with them.  But I got three numbers together in Ohio tonight and got $10 out of it.  At least my play tomorrow is free!

                    There are actually ways to put the odds even more in your favor, but they are all but impossible to do manually.  You can make still better plays by either (1) making sure none of the 8 plays have ever had a 4 or 5 hit previously, or (2) make sure the 8 plays (all together) have the highest number of 4 hits previously.  I ran extensive tests for two months and both of those things clearly gave better results.  But like I said, there is no way anyone can do that manually, because both require comparing all 8 sets against the entire draw history for the game.  I'm a programmer, so I wrote a program to do all that while I was testing to figure out what worked best.

                    As an extra tip, I also discovered during that two months of testing that the best results come if you play what I call a "tight" game.  That is... if in the first column of your eight plays you only use the numbers 1-8, the second column only use the numbers 9-16, the third column only use the numbers 17-24, the fourth column only use the number 25-32, and the fifth column only use the numbers 33-39.  This result was completely unexpected by me, because I thought that "loose" play would be the best (where any column could have any number that had actually ever appeared in that column in a previous drawing).  But it turns out that keeping it tight gives at least double the results (in actual money won).

                    I also need to mention that my idea was not created with the short term in mind.  I can make a living doing this if I can win the jackpot just ONCE per year.  So I'm playing this system every day for a year.  If I can win at least once a year, then I'm set for life.  If not... back to the drawing board.

                    Anyway... good luck!

                    I tried your method with $8.00 worth of tickets and $2 of qp's and didn't win a darn thing and when I buy all qp's I usually do win something. 

                     I went across the line instead of down thinking my odds would be better but maybe I should have gone down the the line vertically......I sort of think my best chances will be to stick with the qp's.....that's how I got 4 out of 5 correct and in order drawn once and won $270......it was $269 on that one and I had a dollar win on the same ticket printout as I had 5 on one ticket.

                    I may try what you are suggesting above in your post to see if it does any good.

                    Thanks for trying to help anyway.

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                      I tried your method with $8.00 worth of tickets and $2 of qp's and didn't win a darn thing and when I buy all qp's I usually do win something..........Thanks for trying to help anyway.

                      I also lose money when I play the lotteries, but it will never be because I tried some else's method with real money, you should have tested it on paper first.  No body have come up a guarantee way to turn a few dollars into a win fall by playing the lottery yet. 

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Posted: September 15, 2008, 10:04 pm - IP Logged

                        I don't play to win my $8 back.  I play for exactly one reason... to win the jackpot.  There is really no other reason to play.

                        Therefore, the smartest way to play is to play my way... using all of the possible numbers.

                        Playing 11 (or whatever) out of 39 numbers and wheeling them is pointless, because if any winning number isn't in the numbers you wheeled... you have ZERO chance to win the jackpot that day.

                        My method gives you a chance to win the jackpot EVERY SINGLE DAY!  There will NEVER be a day where you don't have a chance to win the jackpot, because the winning numbers will ALWAYS be on your $8 worth of tickets!

                        If your goal is to break even or win a little more than you bet, then I can't help you.  I'm all about the jackpot, and my way is the best way to have a chance to win that jackpot every single drawing.

                        And if someone can't afford to blow the $8 a day, then they shouldn't be playing anyway!

                        I tried using a variation of that strategy a couple of years ago. I made 8 QPs using all 39 numbers with 1 number twice and went back a month to start rearranging the combinations so the last numbers drawn would be in different combos. One number will repeat about 60% so I always had one number each of those drawings and had 3 combos without any repeats that could win in the other 40%.

                        Since I knew the next result, my idea was to find a consistent way where I could move the numbers around in the 8 combos and match all 5. I believe the strategy was sound but my methodology was shaky and without winning a jackpot, there isn't much return on the $56 a week cost of playing.

                        I used another method that cost $19 a day but the small multiple wins offset the weekly total and most weeks I lost very little and showed a small profit in others. This method used 14 numbers in an abbreviated wheel and though I matched 4 numbers many times, I never did match all five so it turned out to be more of a cost saying system than a realistic chance of winning over $100,000.

                        It's pick your poison or player preference in deciding whether to wheel a smaller group of numbers that gives you a better chance for a smaller return and hoping to match all 5 numbers one day or use all 39 numbers with very little return but have a chance to win the jackpot in every day.

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                          Posted: October 1, 2008, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

                          Ohio's Rolling Cash5 is at $340K, it's time to start playing again.  I may try some of the tricks I've been trying with MegaMillions.

                           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                             
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                            Posted: October 1, 2008, 10:39 pm - IP Logged

                            Ohio's Rolling Cash5 is at $340K, it's time to start playing again.  I may try some of the tricks I've been trying with MegaMillions.

                            Now that the Ten Oh promotion is over I'm either going to start playing Rolling Cash 5 again or I'm going to copy down Mmeflorida's picks and drive to PA everyday. Smile

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                              Posted: October 2, 2008, 12:47 am - IP Logged

                              Interesting system. I hope you win once per year. For $10/day for a year would run you $3,560. Not a lot comparing to the jackpot prizes that could be yours.

                              The only thing I see in this system is that it still have the same odds of 1 in 575,757. With this system 8 in 575,757. Disapprove

                              Then again, anyone playing the 39 numbers game will have the same odds. The system an individual may use can give better odds IF they got all 5 numbers in a pool.

                              Have you ever hit 4/5 balls with this system?