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Posted: September 17, 2008, 9:31 pm - IP Logged

Hi all,

I've been meaning to bring this up for a while. All this talk about gap systems as filters just aroused my curiousity again. Although I'm diligently developing my system knowing not nearly as much as the rest of you, I'm of the school that believes in elimination rather than prediction. To that extent, I was wondering if any of you could impart to me the fundamentals of filtering systems, besides the gap system? Particularly systems I could use in conjunction with the gap system. Anyone know any others?

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    Posted: September 18, 2008, 6:50 am - IP Logged

    The next one is a 'hot, warm, cold' filter. The specifics will vary by person.

    At the core is the observation that rarely are the numbers all hot, all cold, etc.

    That takes you down one of two paths - You either look for what happens often - a mix of H,W, & C (shotgun/big budget) or you go for the rare thing - all H, all W, or all C - biding your cash (low buget/rifle).

    In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
    Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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      Posted: September 18, 2008, 7:12 am - IP Logged

      then there is odd even split, or total sum

       

      add all the lotto numbers drawn together and thats the sum.  some belive you should go for a sum that falls in the avg

       

      odd even split is 3 odd 3 even 2 odd 4 even etc. some say u should have 3 /3  as its most common.

       

      theres 2 filters i know

      2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

      keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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        Posted: September 18, 2008, 7:34 am - IP Logged

        Hi all,

        I've been meaning to bring this up for a while. All this talk about gap systems as filters just aroused my curiousity again. Although I'm diligently developing my system knowing not nearly as much as the rest of you, I'm of the school that believes in elimination rather than prediction. To that extent, I was wondering if any of you could impart to me the fundamentals of filtering systems, besides the gap system? Particularly systems I could use in conjunction with the gap system. Anyone know any others?

        You didn't mention what game you're talking about.  For Pick 5 and Pick 6, check out the Full Wheels page (any Full wheel for the game).  For Pick 3 or Pick 4 check out the the Deflate 3 or Deflate 4 page.

        As a standard member, you can't actually use the page (although you can try it out), but it will give you lots of ideas about different filters to try.

         

        Check the State Lottery Report Card
        What grade did your lottery earn?

         

        Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
        Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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          Posted: September 18, 2008, 8:40 am - IP Logged

          Hi,

            Try this link:

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread.aspx?tp=175661&q=JKING&rp=search&get=1047222

            You will find a few different filter types listed if you read through the topic.

          You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

          Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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            Posted: September 18, 2008, 11:48 am - IP Logged

            Thanks for all the filter suggestions, all. I've been experimenting with odd/even, sum, and hot/cold.

            Todd, sorry, I was specifically referring to the multi state jackpot games, specificially Mega Millions.

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              Posted: September 18, 2008, 12:00 pm - IP Logged

              Thanks for all the filter suggestions, all. I've been experimenting with odd/even, sum, and hot/cold.

              Todd, sorry, I was specifically referring to the multi state jackpot games, specificially Mega Millions.

              OK, you should be able to get some great ideas for Mega Millions filters on any Pick 5 Full Wheels page.  (When dealing with Mega Millions, the vast majority of your focus should be on the first 5 numbers.)

               

              Check the State Lottery Report Card
              What grade did your lottery earn?

               

              Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
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                Posted: September 18, 2008, 12:11 pm - IP Logged

                Hi,

                  Try this link:

                http://www.lotterypost.com/thread.aspx?tp=175661&q=JKING&rp=search&get=1047222

                  You will find a few different filter types listed if you read through the topic.

                Hmm, I see nearly everything else I was going to add here is already ... over there. Big Grin

                In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
                Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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                  Posted: September 18, 2008, 11:27 pm - IP Logged

                  oh god, i looked at that link , it reminds me that trying to pick lotto leads to maddness.

                  2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

                  keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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                    Posted: September 19, 2008, 3:13 am - IP Logged

                    Really, the bonus ball in Powerball and Mega Millions is a killer, which is why I decided to switch my system over to Hoosier Lotto, a Pick 6 game with all the numbers in the same pool.

                    Gonna win.Big Smile

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                      Posted: September 23, 2008, 1:43 am - IP Logged

                      I have alot of fun (and find interesting) creating my own multitude of filters.  I forgot what the Gap system is and don't care.

                      Why?  Cause I don't know anyone who is doing well with it consistently.  I recall only one thing about it.  It was another one of these confusing hard to explain...or poorly explained (my biggest beef with most LP posters) strategies.

                      I want a filter system that I could easily explain to a 10 year old.

                      Anyway, two of my favorite filters involve the fact that most every draw (of just about every type of game) always includes some new numbers.  If done accurately, this give you an opportunity to reliably eliminate numbers.

                      Problem with the hot/cold/warm thing is...you need a filter to filter some of those out. Dart throwing for most lacking intuition...feeling for numbers.

                      Another one I am working on....I call series numbers (I know someone else is using that name for another system..I don't care)   1, 11, 21, 31, 41 etc...is the 1's series. Get it?  2,12,22,32,42 etc is the 2's series. I sometimes find that these numbers perform in a more predictable fashion....as it relates to the hot/cold/warm strategy.  Example.  If 1,11,21, 41 have come out..the cold 31 will likely pop soon...and it usually does.

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                        Posted: October 18, 2008, 9:12 am - IP Logged

                        Check out the posts from LANTERN. In my opinion, he is the Filter Guru on LP. There is another LP poster

                        who tracks and filters ODD OR EVEN SUMS, and if you get that one correct - wow!!!!

                          Ephesians 3:20


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                          Posted: October 18, 2008, 11:57 pm - IP Logged

                          Check out the posts from LANTERN. In my opinion, he is the Filter Guru on LP. There is another LP poster

                          who tracks and filters ODD OR EVEN SUMS, and if you get that one correct - wow!!!!

                          Thanks!

                          I think that jackpot games' winning numbers are "Boxed" numbers, not straight-ones otherwise there would be very many more combinations to them, I am not into filters for those games, but at one time I was trying to develop some filters for those games for a program made by Harmen and did develp many of them, but due to there being too many filters developed and some perhaps too much work for Harmen (And perhaps also too hard for him to code into the program) to implement into his program, only some of them were put into his program from me, but he did put others also from himself and maybe also a few from other people, in the end the program had many filters into it, but that progam had some serious limitations, it could wheel only a very limited number of lines and I think that there were also one or more other problems, I can't remember, I do know that the program had no documentation and as you know filters are often very hard to figure out without the right information about them and their proper use.

                          No time soon will I again try to think and talk about filters for jackpot games, I do say that some filters are almost kind of universal and in some way or ways can be used for any or almost any kind of lottery games, hennybogan is right when He says that study of my filters posts will and or can help.

                          Good Luck!

                          Fernando.