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Posted: October 16, 2008, 1:16 am - IP Logged

             

             

I've noticed that when the illinois lotto gets above 3 or 4 million

they sometimes draw some unusual numbers

to this day, i'm convinced the fix is in to inflate the grand prize

which in turn brings in more players

...................

it's been 18 years since my last advanced mathmatics class,

maybe someone can help me out.  whats the odds that the

difference between the highest number and lowest is less than 21?

10/15/2008
    Lotto
    24-31-32-33-35-40


9/29/2008
    Lotto
    30-34-37-38-46-50

9/24/2008
    Lotto
    21-24-32-33-35-37

that's 3 in the last 10 draws


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    Posted: October 16, 2008, 7:06 am - IP Logged

    Every combo has the exact same chance as showing. Given enough time, even 1-2-3-4-5-6 will show. It's just not it's time yet.

    In your last example of 21-24-32-33-35-37, how long before that same exact combo will show again? A very very long time.  

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      Posted: October 16, 2008, 8:26 am - IP Logged

                   

                   

      I've noticed that when the illinois lotto gets above 3 or 4 million

      they sometimes draw some unusual numbers

      to this day, i'm convinced the fix is in to inflate the grand prize

      which in turn brings in more players

      ...................

      it's been 18 years since my last advanced mathmatics class,

      maybe someone can help me out.  whats the odds that the

      difference between the highest number and lowest is less than 21?

      10/15/2008
          Lotto
          24-31-32-33-35-40


      9/29/2008
          Lotto
          30-34-37-38-46-50

      9/24/2008
          Lotto
          21-24-32-33-35-37

      that's 3 in the last 10 draws

      Looking at this very quickly, and perhaps not seeing the entire picture, this is what I see now.

      First, if the Lotto consists of balls numbered from 1 to 50, then the difference between the

      high ball drawn and the low ball drawn varies from 5 to 49.  1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5  -  6 = 6 - 1 = 5 and

      1 - x - x - x - x - 50 = 50 - 1 = 49. So, the differences for a Lotto consisting of 6 balls are:

      5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,

      37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48, and 49. Counting each difference yields 45 differences.

      Finally, the PROBABILITY of a Lottery using balls 1 to 50 with a DIFFERENCE LESS THAN 21 IS:

      P = (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) OR 16 DIFFERENCES /  ALL 45 DIFFERENCES

         = 16/45

         = 35.5%

      It appears to me that nearly thirty-six percent of the time you will see a difference of less than

      21.

      Scanning yesterdays results shows the following had drawings where the difference was less

      than 21:

      Wed Oct 15, 2008:

      Illinois Little Lotto:                      18   35  17

      Illinois          Lotto:                      24   40  16

      Kentucky Win For Life:                 12  27  15  (Don't know anything about the "Win For Life" games.)

      Multi-State Win For Life:              12  27  15

      New Mexico Road Runner Cash:  23  32  9  (Don't know about this game either.)

      Virginia Win For Life:                     12  27  15

        Ephesians 3:20


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        Posted: October 16, 2008, 9:42 am - IP Logged

        just talked to another player after mentioning this to him.   He uses this as an example.

        shuffle a deck of cards

        the chances are the same as dealing out six consecutive black number cards including the ace.

        try it... not gonna do that too many times out of a hundred.

        ...........

        just seems kinda shady, they could toss a low number in there to kinda make it look good.

        guess they want all the marbles.

        ........

        going back to the math, let me give this a try

        first number can be any............52/52   let's assume it's 26

        second number 20 above or below 26, lets assumer it's 6 givin us the low   40/51

        third has to be 7 to 25, 19/50

        fourth 18/49

        fifth  17/48

        sixth 16/47

        let's multiply all these fractions

        52/52 * 40/51 * 19/50 * 18/49 * 17/48 * 16/48

        1.32 Percent chance?  or 75:1 odds?

        ...............................

        after checkin the history, going back to the beggining of the lotto game

        i checked the first year of draws,   the actual times i counted a difference of 20 or less was THREE out of 52  roughly six percent

        would like to hear others input and math on this