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read the bible and you will see no where does it mention anything about gambling,i have searched the scriptures from OT to NT and what i found were "VAGUE" passages that religious folks "personally interpret" as meaning gambling is wrong.to the best of my knowledge no one was gambling during that time because the modern form of gambling didn't exist back then.

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    Its a sin when it turns into an addiction and you commit sins just to gamble. (ie: theft)

    Its like poker: you can play your best but you gotta know when to fold your cards and take a rest. Hold your cards, take a breath, and hope that nobody else is stacking the deck.


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      The bible is not the last word on anything. It's just one more version of events told by many religions. Nothing is written in stone or black and white.

      I recall a lot of grey areas.....

      Nevertheless, gambling has been around in different forms throughout the ages. The bible is rife with examples. Maybe you need to re-read your bible.


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        read the bible and you will see no where does it mention anything about gambling,i have searched the scriptures from OT to NT and what i found were "VAGUE" passages that religious folks "personally interpret" as meaning gambling is wrong.to the best of my knowledge no one was gambling during that time because the modern form of gambling didn't exist back then.

        Also, there are things called peripherals. Certain traits or behaviours lead other traits to the right path. For example.....the body is the temple....well....every form of harmful activity could fall in this category. Gambling might hurt not only mentally but physically in the long run. It's an indirect influence.

        So...just because the bible dosen't directly mention gambling per sa, in other ways, it can make the same point.

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          The bible is not the last word on anything. It's just one more version of events told by many religions. Nothing is written in stone or black and white.

          I recall a lot of grey areas.....

          Nevertheless, gambling has been around in different forms throughout the ages. The bible is rife with examples. Maybe you need to re-read your bible.

          Can you share where you found some of those examples. I'm interested. You can post the scriptures and I will go read them. Thanks


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            Can you share where you found some of those examples. I'm interested. You can post the scriptures and I will go read them. Thanks

            It's been a long time since i read it, but I did some searching and found some examples.

             

            While the Bible does not explicitly mention gambling, it does mention games of "luck" or "chance." As an example, casting lots is used in Leviticus to choose between the sacrificial goat and the scapegoat. Joshua cast lots to determine the allotment of land to the various tribes. Nehemiah cast lots to determine who would live inside the walls of Jerusalem and who wouldn’t. The apostles cast lots to determine the replacement for Judas. Proverbs 16:33 says, “The lot is cast in the lap, but its every decision is from the Lord. 

            The Bible does not specifically condemn gambling, betting, or the lottery. The Bible does warn us, however, to stay away from the love of money (1 Timothy 6:10; Hebrews 13:5). Scripture also encourages us to stay away from attempts to "get rich quick" (Proverbs 13:11; 23:5; Ecclesiastes 5:10). Gambling most definitely is focused on the love of money and undeniably tempts people with the promise of quick and easy riches.

            Proverbs 13:11 says, “Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow.” God is sovereign and will provide for the needs of the church through honest means. Would God be honored by receiving donated drug money, or money stolen in a bank robbery? Neither does God need or want money that was "stolen" from the poor by the temptation for riches.

            1 Timothy 6:10 tells us, "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.

             Although the word "gambling" does not appear in the Bible, the practice is clearly condemned in numerous passages of scripture. Gambling is based on the evil desire to get money or goods which belong to someone else without giving fair value in exchange. The Bible calls this sin "covetousness" and makes it clear that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God (Romans 1:28-32).

            Because gambling encourages the "getting something for nothing" philosophy, it also encourages laziness and indolence. Men and women who set out on a career of gambling shun honest labor and become parasites. States and cities where gambling is legalized and a "big business" become mere parasites living off the productive labor of others. Such statements as Paul made in II Thessalonians 3:10,11, certainly conflict with the gambler's ideal of living.

            The greed (covetousness) that motivates individuals to gamble is sin.

                          Ex 20:17
                          Prov 11:28; 15:16; 23:4-5
                          Gal 5:21
                          Eph 5:3-5
                          Phil 4:11-13
                          Col 3:5
                          1 Tim 6:6-11, 17-19


             Finally, we must imitate the example of Jesus (1 Peter 2:21,22; Matthew 10:24,25; 1 Corinthians 11:1). Can you honestly imagine Jesus playing a slot machine or roulette wheel or betting on a dice or poker game? Honestly now, does gambling harmonize with the example of Jesus and the teaching of His word?

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              It's been a long time since i read it, but I did some searching and found some examples.

               

              While the Bible does not explicitly mention gambling, it does mention games of "luck" or "chance." As an example, casting lots is used in Leviticus to choose between the sacrificial goat and the scapegoat. Joshua cast lots to determine the allotment of land to the various tribes. Nehemiah cast lots to determine who would live inside the walls of Jerusalem and who wouldn’t. The apostles cast lots to determine the replacement for Judas. Proverbs 16:33 says, “The lot is cast in the lap, but its every decision is from the Lord. 

              The Bible does not specifically condemn gambling, betting, or the lottery. The Bible does warn us, however, to stay away from the love of money (1 Timothy 6:10; Hebrews 13:5). Scripture also encourages us to stay away from attempts to "get rich quick" (Proverbs 13:11; 23:5; Ecclesiastes 5:10). Gambling most definitely is focused on the love of money and undeniably tempts people with the promise of quick and easy riches.

              Proverbs 13:11 says, “Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow.” God is sovereign and will provide for the needs of the church through honest means. Would God be honored by receiving donated drug money, or money stolen in a bank robbery? Neither does God need or want money that was "stolen" from the poor by the temptation for riches.

              1 Timothy 6:10 tells us, "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.

               Although the word "gambling" does not appear in the Bible, the practice is clearly condemned in numerous passages of scripture. Gambling is based on the evil desire to get money or goods which belong to someone else without giving fair value in exchange. The Bible calls this sin "covetousness" and makes it clear that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God (Romans 1:28-32).

              Because gambling encourages the "getting something for nothing" philosophy, it also encourages laziness and indolence. Men and women who set out on a career of gambling shun honest labor and become parasites. States and cities where gambling is legalized and a "big business" become mere parasites living off the productive labor of others. Such statements as Paul made in II Thessalonians 3:10,11, certainly conflict with the gambler's ideal of living.

              The greed (covetousness) that motivates individuals to gamble is sin.

                            Ex 20:17
                            Prov 11:28; 15:16; 23:4-5
                            Gal 5:21
                            Eph 5:3-5
                            Phil 4:11-13
                            Col 3:5
                            1 Tim 6:6-11, 17-19


               Finally, we must imitate the example of Jesus (1 Peter 2:21,22; Matthew 10:24,25; 1 Corinthians 11:1). Can you honestly imagine Jesus playing a slot machine or roulette wheel or betting on a dice or poker game? Honestly now, does gambling harmonize with the example of Jesus and the teaching of His word?

              jesus 

               

              I will pm you. thanks.

              I actually read that before.

              http://www.gotquestions.org/gambling-sin.html

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                read the bible and you will see no where does it mention anything about gambling,i have searched the scriptures from OT to NT and what i found were "VAGUE" passages that religious folks "personally interpret" as meaning gambling is wrong.to the best of my knowledge no one was gambling during that time because the modern form of gambling didn't exist back then.

                Gambling of any kind is not a sin, it can't be a sin....The lottery is not a sin, what people don't realize is that the lottery can be modified and made into a Stock Market, something that can move hundreds of millions of dollars around...Gambling is not a sin, however there are little things that people think are not a sin and they are a sin, stuff like throwing thrash on the streets, smoking, living like a rich person if you have a lot of money....For instance let's assume you win 100 million dollars in the lotto and you go and buy youself a 30 million dollar mansion begin to have sex crazily fly in private jets etc, that's a sin...But if you take 10 million for you and the rest you use it for something constructive to the community like building houses, etc then it is not a sin...

                Again if you have 100 million dollars and you don't take 10 million for you and the rest give it away that's a sin....The maximum you can have is 20 million dollars because 20 millions placed in the bank at 5% gives you 1 million dollars each year of interest...I think that's enough for a large family for a small family 10 million is enough....And this is a sin but a bigger sin is what i am going to say in the following paragraph is a big sin as bad as killing...

                A bigger sin is getting married having kids and not studying something that will help the world something like try to find the cure to some diseases, or invent the next thing that will cause a better form of living you know pushing the world forward or help the world reach to the cosmos or combat global warming or make the world advance...So getting married and living like nothing is wrong with the world minding your own bussiness, enjoying each day oblivious that this world needs to be push forward now that's A BIG SIN...Remember the Jesus Parable where the landlord left and gave each of his servant a coin and remember what one of those servant did with the coin, he burry it until the landlord came and what the landlord told him? he punished him....Same thing with people that get married thinking the world is full of roses and have kids and don't worry about helping their breathen or helping the world push forward....

                I also believe having too many kids is a big sin...The scriptures don't have to say it, but i know they are big sins...

                And NO Gambling is not a sin....Right now you are thinking of what the Bible says, but i am thinking that there is more stars in the universe than there is grain of sands in all of the world beaches, i am thinking about that and how insignificant thing we are both in size and in movement in relation to the universe...

                addiction to gambling is not a sin either UNLESS you waste all of your paycheck on gambling...

                deforrestation and polutions are a big sins....

                also depends how much money you win in Gambling, because if you are gambling for 20,000 and there is only 1 winner then that's not productive gambling...That kind of gambling that you have in a casino is not a productive gambling because out of 30,000 people there is 1 winner and he wins like 200 bucks and that's not productive gambling...YOu could say that that part is a sin...It all depends...

                The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨


                 


                 


                 

                 


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                  Gambling of any kind is not a sin, it can't be a sin....The lottery is not a sin, what people don't realize is that the lottery can be modified and made into a Stock Market, something that can move hundreds of millions of dollars around...Gambling is not a sin, however there are little things that people think are not a sin and they are a sin, stuff like throwing thrash on the streets, smoking, living like a rich person if you have a lot of money....For instance let's assume you win 100 million dollars in the lotto and you go and buy youself a 30 million dollar mansion begin to have sex crazily fly in private jets etc, that's a sin...But if you take 10 million for you and the rest you use it for something constructive to the community like building houses, etc then it is not a sin...

                  Again if you have 100 million dollars and you don't take 10 million for you and the rest give it away that's a sin....The maximum you can have is 20 million dollars because 20 millions placed in the bank at 5% gives you 1 million dollars each year of interest...I think that's enough for a large family for a small family 10 million is enough....And this is a sin but a bigger sin is what i am going to say in the following paragraph is a big sin as bad as killing...

                  A bigger sin is getting married having kids and not studying something that will help the world something like try to find the cure to some diseases, or invent the next thing that will cause a better form of living you know pushing the world forward or help the world reach to the cosmos or combat global warming or make the world advance...So getting married and living like nothing is wrong with the world minding your own bussiness, enjoying each day oblivious that this world needs to be push forward now that's A BIG SIN...Remember the Jesus Parable where the landlord left and gave each of his servant a coin and remember what one of those servant did with the coin, he burry it until the landlord came and what the landlord told him? he punished him....Same thing with people that get married thinking the world is full of roses and have kids and don't worry about helping their breathen or helping the world push forward....

                  I also believe having too many kids is a big sin...The scriptures don't have to say it, but i know they are big sins...

                  And NO Gambling is not a sin....Right now you are thinking of what the Bible says, but i am thinking that there is more stars in the universe than there is grain of sands in all of the world beaches, i am thinking about that and how insignificant thing we are both in size and in movement in relation to the universe...

                  addiction to gambling is not a sin either UNLESS you waste all of your paycheck on gambling...

                  deforrestation and polutions are a big sins....

                  also depends how much money you win in Gambling, because if you are gambling for 20,000 and there is only 1 winner then that's not productive gambling...That kind of gambling that you have in a casino is not a productive gambling because out of 30,000 people there is 1 winner and he wins like 200 bucks and that's not productive gambling...YOu could say that that part is a sin...It all depends...

                  Almost exactly what I was thinking (in so many words). Gambling itself is no more of a sin than investing your money (in the stock market, for example), and attempting to make your investment grow. You can lose all of your savings on either route. Likewise, you can also increase your investment tenfold if you make wise decisions in either. Gambling itself is not the sin, it's your "attitude" towards it that makes it a sin, and whether or not it consumes you.

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                    is gambling a sin

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                      Gambling of any kind is not a sin, it can't be a sin....The lottery is not a sin, what people don't realize is that the lottery can be modified and made into a Stock Market, something that can move hundreds of millions of dollars around...Gambling is not a sin, however there are little things that people think are not a sin and they are a sin, stuff like throwing thrash on the streets, smoking, living like a rich person if you have a lot of money....For instance let's assume you win 100 million dollars in the lotto and you go and buy youself a 30 million dollar mansion begin to have sex crazily fly in private jets etc, that's a sin...But if you take 10 million for you and the rest you use it for something constructive to the community like building houses, etc then it is not a sin...

                      Again if you have 100 million dollars and you don't take 10 million for you and the rest give it away that's a sin....The maximum you can have is 20 million dollars because 20 millions placed in the bank at 5% gives you 1 million dollars each year of interest...I think that's enough for a large family for a small family 10 million is enough....And this is a sin but a bigger sin is what i am going to say in the following paragraph is a big sin as bad as killing...

                      A bigger sin is getting married having kids and not studying something that will help the world something like try to find the cure to some diseases, or invent the next thing that will cause a better form of living you know pushing the world forward or help the world reach to the cosmos or combat global warming or make the world advance...So getting married and living like nothing is wrong with the world minding your own bussiness, enjoying each day oblivious that this world needs to be push forward now that's A BIG SIN...Remember the Jesus Parable where the landlord left and gave each of his servant a coin and remember what one of those servant did with the coin, he burry it until the landlord came and what the landlord told him? he punished him....Same thing with people that get married thinking the world is full of roses and have kids and don't worry about helping their breathen or helping the world push forward....

                      I also believe having too many kids is a big sin...The scriptures don't have to say it, but i know they are big sins...

                      And NO Gambling is not a sin....Right now you are thinking of what the Bible says, but i am thinking that there is more stars in the universe than there is grain of sands in all of the world beaches, i am thinking about that and how insignificant thing we are both in size and in movement in relation to the universe...

                      addiction to gambling is not a sin either UNLESS you waste all of your paycheck on gambling...

                      deforrestation and polutions are a big sins....

                      also depends how much money you win in Gambling, because if you are gambling for 20,000 and there is only 1 winner then that's not productive gambling...That kind of gambling that you have in a casino is not a productive gambling because out of 30,000 people there is 1 winner and he wins like 200 bucks and that's not productive gambling...YOu could say that that part is a sin...It all depends...

                      You're interpretation of what is right and wrong is among the many reasons why I don't subscribe to religous institutions. Everyone likes to bend the rules around their comfort zone. I call that being a hypocrite.

                      I personally don't believe in sin, just right and wrong. Sin is just a fabrication made up by religous freaks to control the masses. 

                      If I did believe in sin, I'd say that any religous person who claims that gambling is NOT a sin is a hypocrite. Twisting the true intention of the christian faith in order to justify their habit. All you religous freaks make me sick.

                      The catholics are the worst of the bunch. They curse, drink, smoke and everything else under the sun, as long as Sunday rolls around and they confess to their sins, only to do it all over again the following week. What a bunch of looney tunes.

                      Does anyone really expect me to take religous folks seriously? Pffftttt... 

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                        Has anyone of you thought and think that what people bet on are games...Is there anything wrong with a game...Is there anything wrong with placing your money on your favorite team or horse thinking he/she is going to win...

                        Gambling can't be a sin....I encourage for the State to select lottery games that are hard to win but that don't have a lot of odds...I encourage them to do it but at the same time i don't....For example i encourage the state to put keno more harder give it more numbers, this way it test humans inginuity, actually it doesn't test human's inginuity but it makes humans calculate and experiment with all sorts of stuff...Why i believe this? because it will shape up humans because 10 million years from now when humans are travelling in the corners of the universe in the huge spaceship there are going to encounter anomalies in the computers anomalies that will require them to use algorithms and it will test their engenuity just like the lotto...There is a commercial from BP where the scientist say they have a machine called R3M that makes senses of the electromagnetic waves that the earth produces, same thing will happen when they are in the remote corners of the universe traveling and they encounter new planets, planets that we don't even know what they posses, they will have to have ingenuity to check the atmosphere made of of different gases and that will challenge their ingenuity, it will be similar to trying and crack the lotto....Very similar...But humans are dumb and i mean they are dumb they are like turtles they need help, they should have been saving every system produce here in LP for centuries, milenia and millions of years in the future saved in a safe but they don't...

                        At the same time i don't want lotterieis to be too hard, actually i feel that lotteries that pay big jackpots should be harder, but lotteries that pay small jackpots like pick3, pick2, pick4, VWa Cash25 should be easy because there are lots of people that will like to win the lotto and go back to school and study something to change the world or help in experiments to change the world make it more advance yet they don't put this lotteries easy...I also like this small lotteries to resemble a Lotto Stock Market for the poor not just in the U.S but in Latin America, AFrica and parts of Asia and the Middle east, why? because i know that there are people out there in those regions that will like to go to school and study stuff to help the world but they don't have the means to do it and winning the lottery is the only way, i know because that's my situation...Here in Panama or the regions i mentions there is no WEALTHY, HUGE PROSPEROUS FORM OF A STOCK MARKET where even the poor can see their money prosper....

                        and please stop thinking that because we can fly in airplanes and all this new technology that we are smart because we are not....Someone with a 150 I.Q is still very dumb he has always been dumb and he will always be dumb...Lots of people with 150 I.Q study commerce when we don't need bussiness people anymmore we need people to major in sciencie, mathematics, medicine, etc...That's why i say that 99.9% of people with a 150 I.Q are dumb, they always have been dumber...And if they were smart they will know that we need change in this world but they don't they live happily thinking everything is O.K that's why they dumb...

                        Gambling can't be a sin....What if i take 20 people and ask of each 10 dollars and give it to 1 person is that a sin? This is similar to collection from charities, they collect money from a lot of people and raise a big load for something important the only difference in gambling is that is going to a person, the state, or the casino....

                        The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨


                         


                         


                         

                         



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                          gambling is only a sin too folks that follow religious beliefs,for those of you that do not follow religious beliefs(like me) it's not a sin and since it's not in the bible religious folks are making a PERSONAL belief that it is.Someone mentioned the casting of lots which was basically a prelude too modern day gambling and the word LOT is where we get the word LOTTERY from so if gambling was really a sin then you wouldn't have this connection plus the casting of lots had nothing to do with money like lotteries do today.But my point was that gambling that we have today is not mentioned in the bible as being a sin and even if it did specifically mention it as such only folks that are christians,jews,mormons,muslims,jehovah witness would have too obey it not any non-religious folks.

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                            Any from of gambling where money exchanges hand can be considered a sin in like 99% of the religions. Probably all. Either you understand this or you don't.

                            People who say there aren't any scriptures in the bible relating to gambling (playing the lottery is gambling) haven't read the bible nor do they have an understanding of the scriptures.

                            Devout Christians do not play the lottery and even if they did they know they can ask for forgiveness. Jeese probably more than half the people who gamble are practicing Christians.

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                              Also, there are things called peripherals. Certain traits or behaviours lead other traits to the right path. For example.....the body is the temple....well....every form of harmful activity could fall in this category. Gambling might hurt not only mentally but physically in the long run. It's an indirect influence.

                              So...just because the bible dosen't directly mention gambling per sa, in other ways, it can make the same point.

                              "every form of harmful activity could fall in this category"

                              Don't forget all of the supposedly harmless activities. Some people think eating honors Jesus because your temple needs nourishment, but suppose you already weigh 600 pounds and your cholesterol level is also 600? I guess that eating ice cream or a Big Mac must be a sin, because neither one of them is actually good for you (at least physiologically).

                              Of course some people think anything they don't approve of is a sin, and they'll happily point to something in their chosen book to justify their belief. It's amazing how much room for interpretation there is in something that was written thousands of years ago, in a dead language that often used the same word for several different meanings.