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Non-Algorithmic Random Number Generator

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Posted: January 7, 2009, 8:48 am - IP Logged
Dear members
 
Does anyone use non-algorithmic random number generator (such as hardware assisted method that takes seed from some physical system). Looking for a free-access digital (url,ftp) resource (maybe from a physical laboratory or an astronomical observatory, preferably web based to be able to extract normalized random numbers (1 to 100) from it. (know that RSA encryption software will take manual keyboard events for a seed, not sure if this is proven to be
non-algorithmic).
 
Any input greatly appreciated!

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    Posted: January 7, 2009, 8:56 am - IP Logged

    There is a website that uses an external radioactive source to generate random numbers.

    You'll find it at, http://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/

    Presented 'AS IS' and for Entertainment Purposes Only.
    Any gain or loss is your responsibility.
    Use at your own risk.

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        Posted: January 7, 2009, 2:33 pm - IP Logged

        Thank you! Both are awesome resources. Greaing towards using fourmi for some number permutations to remove extreneous manual bias in my prediction selections.

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          Posted: January 27, 2009, 11:06 am - IP Logged

          I'm just curious --do you feel numbers derived by these supposed truely random type generators is better then the typical functions?

          If you are trying to develop a sequence --wouldn't you want somethng you control?

           

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            Posted: January 27, 2009, 12:27 pm - IP Logged

            I'm just curious --do you feel numbers derived by these supposed truely random type generators is better then the typical functions?

            If you are trying to develop a sequence --wouldn't you want somethng you control?

             

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            Only if one believes that such as sequence exists:) My approach can be best described as Monte Carlo method with a minor (well major:) exception that target sequence result is missing (some future lottery event). I sure hope that this particular source of randomness (generated by radioactive decay) is genuine, but hey if it is not than Quantum Mechanics is deterministic and we will have controlled teleportation/time machine/levitation etc:)
             
            You are absolutely right, either one have deterministic system (sequence) which points out to some flaw in the the RNG algorithm, or if mechanical ie ball paint influences a trajectory (and can be detected ie by Lyupanov method)or by all purposes there is unpredictability.
             
            Note that If by an accident/chance random sequences I generate hits a major jackpot, it won't automatically mean that Quantum Mechanics is somehow in tune with a larger order in the Universe and can perform predictions and absolve us from indeterminism:) 

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