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Hi to all the Cali pick 5 players. I thought I would see what others are doing to pick numbers for Fantasy 5. I am studying a couple diferent theories. One os the 0. 3, 6, 9 theory, prime number theory that I came up with, plus the old reliable hot/cold/pattern studies.

Anyone else studying any other ideas on picking numbers.

 

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    Among a few different methods to view patterns, I use Excel to watch CA F5 numbers that repeat as pairs (2 repeat from the same draw)
    and when there are clusters of pairs repeating ( 12/11's draw in table) I then look for instances where 3
    repeat from the same draw as on 1/9 where 3 repeated from the day prior AND
    3 repeated from 9 draws ago.  The rightmost column shows "3 repeats" occuring a lot lately.
    I plan on testing/refining this method more, I haven't had the spare time to work on it.

     

    DateDraw1Draw2Draw3Draw4Draw5Draws BackActual Pairs3 from X draws Back3 Repeat #s
    1/9/0936152439    1 and 93,6,24, 3,6,39
    1/8/0934624341,524,34, 4,2483,4,6
    1/7/091318243334       
    1/6/095161719254,105,17, 17,25   
    1/5/09710222936       
    1/4/0919143335101,14   
    1/3/0949101224112,24   
    1/2/09512172437412,17   
    1/1/097812313437,12 108,31,34
    12/31/083462939104,6   
    12/30/08281921233,82,8, 8,23   
    12/29/08671217219,106,17, 7,17   
    12/27/08310131635       
    12/26/082891725       
    12/25/0815253536393,635,39, 15,35   
    12/24/0813514327,105,32, 1,14   
    12/23/0842022263124,31   
    12/22/081112203539       
    12/21/084823313414,23   
    12/20/08461618234,5,86,23, 6,16, 4,6   
    12/19/086151719351,4,717,35, 6,17, 6,1796,15,35
    12/18/0857173335       
    12/17/0859192432       
    12/16/08671423281,26,14, 7,14   
    12/15/086131416173,8,106,17, 13,17, 13,17   
    12/14/08179142119,21   
    12/13/08920212330       
    12/12/081461722717,2241,6,22
    12/11/0811131533341,4,6,9,1015,34, 13,34, 11,13, 11,13, 11,13   
    12/10/08615303435       
    12/9/083491013       
    12/8/0816202231       
    12/7/08713171934    213,17,19
    12/6/08911122232111,22   
    12/5/0811131719223,411,13, 11,13   
    12/4/0818222528351,1025,28, 28,35   
    12/3/081221252842,25   
    12/2/081113141824413,24111,13,14
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      Among a few different methods to view patterns, I use Excel to watch CA F5 numbers that repeat as pairs (2 repeat from the same draw)
      and when there are clusters of pairs repeating ( 12/11's draw in table) I then look for instances where 3
      repeat from the same draw as on 1/9 where 3 repeated from the day prior AND
      3 repeated from 9 draws ago.  The rightmost column shows "3 repeats" occuring a lot lately.
      I plan on testing/refining this method more, I haven't had the spare time to work on it.

       

      DateDraw1Draw2Draw3Draw4Draw5Draws BackActual Pairs3 from X draws Back3 Repeat #s
      1/9/0936152439    1 and 93,6,24, 3,6,39
      1/8/0934624341,524,34, 4,2483,4,6
      1/7/091318243334       
      1/6/095161719254,105,17, 17,25   
      1/5/09710222936       
      1/4/0919143335101,14   
      1/3/0949101224112,24   
      1/2/09512172437412,17   
      1/1/097812313437,12 108,31,34
      12/31/083462939104,6   
      12/30/08281921233,82,8, 8,23   
      12/29/08671217219,106,17, 7,17   
      12/27/08310131635       
      12/26/082891725       
      12/25/0815253536393,635,39, 15,35   
      12/24/0813514327,105,32, 1,14   
      12/23/0842022263124,31   
      12/22/081112203539       
      12/21/084823313414,23   
      12/20/08461618234,5,86,23, 6,16, 4,6   
      12/19/086151719351,4,717,35, 6,17, 6,1796,15,35
      12/18/0857173335       
      12/17/0859192432       
      12/16/08671423281,26,14, 7,14   
      12/15/086131416173,8,106,17, 13,17, 13,17   
      12/14/08179142119,21   
      12/13/08920212330       
      12/12/081461722717,2241,6,22
      12/11/0811131533341,4,6,9,1015,34, 13,34, 11,13, 11,13, 11,13   
      12/10/08615303435       
      12/9/083491013       
      12/8/0816202231       
      12/7/08713171934    213,17,19
      12/6/08911122232111,22   
      12/5/0811131719223,411,13, 11,13   
      12/4/0818222528351,1025,28, 28,35   
      12/3/081221252842,25   
      12/2/081113141824413,24111,13,14

      Very interesting Lottomining. I had never thought of watching for pairs. By your chart above, they appear to come up allot. Have you figured out how to decide what pairs might repeat, which is obviously a must to do I would think.

      I have been paying a lot of attention to prime numbers. I see at least 1 in about 80% of the draws, and 2 or 3 in 665% of the draws.

         Prime Numbers for Fantasy 5:  2      3      5      7     11     13     17     19     23     29    31   37

      I havent had the time to follow them these last couple weeks tho. But I am back at it some. Out of 25 plays, I can get 4 or 5 of the numbers. Just not on the same line, with a few exceptions of hitting 4 on a play twice.

      I do a full wheel with 6 numbers 4 times, instead of doing one 7 number wheel. This way I can use more numbers. I have tried the abbreviated wheels and had all the numbers, but the selection process on the abbreviated wheels always makes me miss the hits as that seems to always be the combination that is left out.

       

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        Very interesting Lottomining. I had never thought of watching for pairs. By your chart above, they appear to come up allot. Have you figured out how to decide what pairs might repeat, which is obviously a must to do I would think.

        I have been paying a lot of attention to prime numbers. I see at least 1 in about 80% of the draws, and 2 or 3 in 665% of the draws.

           Prime Numbers for Fantasy 5:  2      3      5      7     11     13     17     19     23     29    31   37

        I havent had the time to follow them these last couple weeks tho. But I am back at it some. Out of 25 plays, I can get 4 or 5 of the numbers. Just not on the same line, with a few exceptions of hitting 4 on a play twice.

        I do a full wheel with 6 numbers 4 times, instead of doing one 7 number wheel. This way I can use more numbers. I have tried the abbreviated wheels and had all the numbers, but the selection process on the abbreviated wheels always makes me miss the hits as that seems to always be the combination that is left out.

         

        Gary

         I decided to break the numbers down in groups of 8 with the last group being 7 numbers

        1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 | 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 | 33 34 35 36 37 38 39

        1 to 8= group 1

        9 to 16=group 2 etc

        What I noticed is that in the last 20 games, group 5 <33 34 35 36 37 38 39> had numbers in 15 games and showed up a total of 19 times. 4 games having the group 5 numbers twice in a game. I am thinking that group 5 numbers should be something that is used in all number picks. At present, I am working on this pattern as well as using prime numbers, in bold below, as well as hot numbers combined with a 0, 3, 6, 9 theory to see how many numbers I can trap. The trick will be to narrow down the numbers to a decent amount to wheel.

        Rec 4398 .. 01/15/2009 ... 14 18 20 28 35

        Rec 4397 .. 01/14/2009 ... 02 11 30 37 38

        Rec 4396 .. 01/13/2009 ... 03 10 18 31 36

        Rec 4395 .. 01/12/2009 ... 01 09 18 27 38

        Rec 4394 .. 01/11/2009 ... 14 15 18 26 35

        Rec 4393 .. 01/10/2009 ... 07 15 20 30 36

        Rec 4392 .. 01/09/2009 ... 03 06 15 24 39

        Rec 4391 .. 01/08/2009 ... 03 04 06 24 34

        Rec 4390 .. 01/07/2009 ... 13 18 24 33 34

        Rec 4389 .. 01/06/2009 ... 05 16 17 19 25

        Rec 4388 .. 01/05/2009 ... 07 10 22 29 36

        Rec 4387 .. 01/04/2009 ... 01 09 14 33 35

        Rec 4386 .. 01/03/2009 ... 04 09 10 12 24

        Rec 4385 .. 01/02/2009 ... 05 12 17 24 37

        Rec 4384 .. 01/01/2009 ... 07 08 12 31 34

        Rec 4383 .. 12/31/2008 ... 03 04 06 29 39

        Rec 4382 .. 12/30/2008 ... 02 08 19 21 23

        Rec 4381 .. 12/29/2008 ... 06 07 12 17 21

        Rec 4380 .. 12/28/2008 ... 13 14 18 23 38

        Rec 4379 .. 12/27/2008 ... 03 10 13 16 35

        ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS TO THIS PROCESS.

         

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          Okay. By the way Oncilla, I live in China and there is an 11 or 12 hour difference so keep that in mind.

          Primary numbers set are: 03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 these will be marked in RED. There are 15 numbers.

          Secondary numbers set are: 12,15,18,21,24,27,28,37 these will be marked in Green. There are 8 numbers.

          Now pretend that we are looking at a 5/23 game. It's not a 5/39 game. Remember don't via of the path. Stick with this thinking .

          Last 10 draws were:

           

          Fri, Jan 16, 200905-14-24-25-29
          Thu, Jan 15, 200914-18-20-28-35
          Wed, Jan 14, 200902-11-30-37-38
          Tue, Jan 13, 200903-10-18-31-36
          Mon, Jan 12, 200901-09-18-27-38
          Sun, Jan 11, 200914-15-18-26-35
          Sat, Jan 10, 200907-15-20-30-36
          Fri, Jan 9, 200903-06-15-24-39
          Thu, Jan 8, 200903-04-06-24-34
          Wed, Jan 7, 200913-18-24-33-34

           

          These are the ones that have come out in the last 10 draws

          03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39

          12,15,18,21,24,27,28,37

          So 09,16,19,23 and 12,21 are left to come out. So pay attention more to these since these are "overdue".

          Play to win!

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            Okay. By the way Oncilla, I live in China and there is an 11 or 12 hour difference so keep that in mind.

            Primary numbers set are: 03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 these will be marked in RED. There are 15 numbers.

            Secondary numbers set are: 12,15,18,21,24,27,28,37 these will be marked in Green. There are 8 numbers.

            Now pretend that we are looking at a 5/23 game. It's not a 5/39 game. Remember don't via of the path. Stick with this thinking .

            Last 10 draws were:

             

            Fri, Jan 16, 200905-14-24-25-29
            Thu, Jan 15, 200914-18-20-28-35
            Wed, Jan 14, 200902-11-30-37-38
            Tue, Jan 13, 200903-10-18-31-36
            Mon, Jan 12, 200901-09-18-27-38
            Sun, Jan 11, 200914-15-18-26-35
            Sat, Jan 10, 200907-15-20-30-36
            Fri, Jan 9, 200903-06-15-24-39
            Thu, Jan 8, 200903-04-06-24-34
            Wed, Jan 7, 200913-18-24-33-34

             

            These are the ones that have come out in the last 10 draws

            03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39

            12,15,18,21,24,27,28,37

            So 09,16,19,23 and 12,21 are left to come out. So pay attention more to these since these are "overdue".

            Here the 12 and 21 like to come out together alot. They are what I call a "married pair". I don't know if it's the same for Cali. That is why I wanted you to take a look at each of the 23 numbers and see with numbers are a married pair. So we have 6 numbers that are "overdue" so they should be included in your plays. Remember we are only using the 23 numbers. Look for pattern. "hot", "cold" and repeats.

            Play to win!

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              Actually 09 already came out. So we have:

              16,19,23 and 12,21 are left to come out. So pay attention more to these since these are "overdue".

              These are my picks for 1/17:

              19-23-16-12-21

              19-23-06-13-16

              19-23-16-21-33

              19-23-10-16-21

              19-23-03-36-39

              I think using Power Numbers is a good idea especially if you feel strong about a number or a number is overdue.

              Play to win!

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                Actually 09 already came out. So we have:

                16,19,23 and 12,21 are left to come out. So pay attention more to these since these are "overdue".

                These are my picks for 1/17:

                19-23-16-12-21

                19-23-06-13-16

                19-23-16-21-33

                19-23-10-16-21

                19-23-03-36-39

                I think using Power Numbers is a good idea especially if you feel strong about a number or a number is overdue.

                Last night's Fantasy 5 were:

                05-12-32-35-37

                12 was due so now we have  16,19,23 and 21 left.

                These are my picks for 1/18: (same play) even though 12 came out it might fall with 21.

                19-23-16-12-21

                19-23-06-13-16

                19-23-16-21-33

                19-23-10-16-21

                19-23-03-36-39

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                  Okay. By the way Oncilla, I live in China and there is an 11 or 12 hour difference so keep that in mind.

                  Primary numbers set are: 03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 these will be marked in RED. There are 15 numbers.

                  Secondary numbers set are: 12,15,18,21,24,27,28,37 these will be marked in Green. There are 8 numbers.

                  Now pretend that we are looking at a 5/23 game. It's not a 5/39 game. Remember don't via of the path. Stick with this thinking .

                  Last 10 draws were:

                   

                  Fri, Jan 16, 200905-14-24-25-29
                  Thu, Jan 15, 200914-18-20-28-35
                  Wed, Jan 14, 200902-11-30-37-38
                  Tue, Jan 13, 200903-10-18-31-36
                  Mon, Jan 12, 200901-09-18-27-38
                  Sun, Jan 11, 200914-15-18-26-35
                  Sat, Jan 10, 200907-15-20-30-36
                  Fri, Jan 9, 200903-06-15-24-39
                  Thu, Jan 8, 200903-04-06-24-34
                  Wed, Jan 7, 200913-18-24-33-34

                   

                  These are the ones that have come out in the last 10 draws

                  03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39

                  12,15,18,21,24,27,28,37

                  So 09,16,19,23 and 12,21 are left to come out. So pay attention more to these since these are "overdue".

                  OK, I copied this info to n email and emailed it to myself. Now I will print it out for my folder. I named it the "Jackpot" folder. grin

                   

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                    Actually 09 already came out. So we have:

                    16,19,23 and 12,21 are left to come out. So pay attention more to these since these are "overdue".

                    These are my picks for 1/17:

                    19-23-16-12-21

                    19-23-06-13-16

                    19-23-16-21-33

                    19-23-10-16-21

                    19-23-03-36-39

                    I think using Power Numbers is a good idea especially if you feel strong about a number or a number is overdue.

                    Numbers for Calif on 1-17-09 were   5-12-32-35-37

                    Thats 2 out of 5 this week.

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                      OK, I copied this info to n email and emailed it to myself. Now I will print it out for my folder. I named it the "Jackpot" folder. grin

                       

                      Gary

                      LoL. I'm still waiting for that "married list". Who is 03 married to? Who is 06 married to? Who is 09 married to?

                      Without it I'm working blindly. Big Grin

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                        LoL. I'm still waiting for that "married list". Who is 03 married to? Who is 06 married to? Who is 09 married to?

                        Without it I'm working blindly. Big Grin

                        I didn't lose focus. I have the 0 3 6 9 study going, a prime number study going, and I am going to do a 0 3 6 9 + prime number study. I am keeping them all seperate.

                        I am not sure how to look for the "married" pairs. Here are the last 30 games. I do see that 03/06 have come up in 3 different games. But thats all I see.

                        05 12 32 35 37
                        05 14 24 25
                        29
                        14 18 20 28 35
                        02 11 30 37 38
                        03 10 18 31
                        36
                        01 09 18 27 38
                        14 15 18 26 35
                        07 15 20 30 36
                        03 06 15 24 39
                        03
                        04 06 24 34
                        13 18 24 33 34
                        05 16 17 19 25
                        07 10 22 29 36
                        01 09 14 33 35
                        04
                        09 10 12 24
                        05 12 17 24 37
                        07 08 12 31 34
                        03 04 06 29 39
                        02 08 19 21 23
                        06 07 12 17
                        21
                        13
                        14 18 23 38
                        03 10 13 16 35
                        02 08 09 17 25
                        15 25 35 36 39
                        01 03 05 14 32
                        04 20 22 26 31
                        11 12 20 35 39
                        04 08 23 31 34
                        04 06 16 18 23
                        06 15 17 19 35

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                          I didn't lose focus. I have the 0 3 6 9 study going, a prime number study going, and I am going to do a 0 3 6 9 + prime number study. I am keeping them all seperate.

                          I am not sure how to look for the "married" pairs. Here are the last 30 games. I do see that 03/06 have come up in 3 different games. But thats all I see.

                          05 12 32 35 37
                          05 14 24 25
                          29
                          14 18 20 28 35
                          02 11 30 37 38
                          03 10 18 31
                          36
                          01 09 18 27 38
                          14 15 18 26 35
                          07 15 20 30 36
                          03 06 15 24 39
                          03
                          04 06 24 34
                          13 18 24 33 34
                          05 16 17 19 25
                          07 10 22 29 36
                          01 09 14 33 35
                          04
                          09 10 12 24
                          05 12 17 24 37
                          07 08 12 31 34
                          03 04 06 29 39
                          02 08 19 21 23
                          06 07 12 17
                          21
                          13
                          14 18 23 38
                          03 10 13 16 35
                          02 08 09 17 25
                          15 25 35 36 39
                          01 03 05 14 32
                          04 20 22 26 31
                          11 12 20 35 39
                          04 08 23 31 34
                          04 06 16 18 23
                          06 15 17 19 35

                          Gary

                          Gary, that's not what I meant. Let me explain. Take each number, in this case it's the 23 numbers we are looking at. For each number you are going to see how many time for example 03 has been paired with 06, how many times 03 has been paired with 09, how many times 03 has been paired with 10 etc... You are going to use from 30 to 50 previous draws for each number. When you do this then you will "see" which number is "married". If you don't use at least 30 or 50 previous draw you won't clearly see the pattern. That's what I'm talking about.

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                            These are the ones that haven't been drawn in ten draws:

                            09-13-16-19-23-33-21

                            Past ten draws:

                            0512323537
                            0514242529
                            1418202835
                            0211303738
                            0310183136
                            0109182738
                            1415182635
                            0715203036
                            0306152439
                            0304062434

                            Here are my ten numbers to wheel : Power number is 19  and the rest are :03-09-10-13-16-23-33-36-39

                            Here the lines for 1/18:

                             

                            09192339
                            09193339
                            10161936
                            13161936
                            19233336
                            10131936
                            16192339
                            16193339
                            13192333
                            13193639

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                              I'm new to playing lotto with a plan versus random numbers. I'm getting an understanding on wheeling. I understand the need to know why one chooses numbers and why one excludes numbers. I totally get that one needs both the hit list and the miss list to be winners. If one can't correctly weed out numbers, that's just as big of an issue as not being able to trap all the winning numbers.

                              I am curious about the key/power number. You've chosen 19. May I ask why? Is it a gut feeling? Or is there a pattern it fits that you are responding to? If so would you share what the pattern is that you've identified? I would love any insight you would share.

                              My current personal best is 4/5 on Fantasy Five. I got lucky. I'm working on being able to repeat it as while I chose the numbers, it was early on (2 months ago) and there was zero reasoning behind the numbers other then I liked them. At that point I had not even identified why I liked them, just that I did.

                              Thanks