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Do confusing tickets lead to unaware winners?

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Posted: April 17, 2009, 7:28 pm - IP Logged

I'm wondering this because several weeks ago, I bought 6 of those cashword tickets, yet I literally had to spend hours figuring out if I won anything.  I only bought them because I saw on the Michigan lotto website that there were 5 grand prizes left of 35000 (some 1000s and 100s too).  I also figured that since it was nearly a year old ticket, and there were still all those prizes left over, that most of the losing tickets were already purchased.  I only won 5 bucks (which is unfortunately my record for most won in the lotto).

However, now I wonder, maybe the winning tickets were already purchased, but people just threw them out, not understanding it or realizing they won.  I KNOW there are people like that out there who buy something and just forget about it, but since it confused me as well, I wonder how many may have won without realizing.  I would hate to see this happen, but it wouldn't surprise me. 

Just an observation.

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    Posted: April 18, 2009, 1:40 am - IP Logged

    Just take your tickets into the retailer and have the cashier check them.  Be sure to watch the screen for every ticket.  Indeed, if you win something it will notify you of the win.  It is important to pay attention!!!  You don't want the cashier to rip you off!

    How are you going to win if you don't play?

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      Posted: April 18, 2009, 10:40 am - IP Logged

      Well, as of now, that's what I do, but does everyone who buys scratchers think to do that?

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        Posted: April 18, 2009, 12:01 pm - IP Logged

        It may take a while, but I always double- or triple-check the tickets and, even if it doesn't look like I've won anything, I scratch the area outside of the letters (or numbers if it's a bingo ticket) to reveal the validation letters.  On a couple of occasions, I didn't think I won anything and discovered "T-I-C" (for free ticket) as the validation letters, indicating a free ticket.  After checking the puzzle (or bingo cards) carefully again, I discovered that it was a winner.

        Sometimes you absolutely MUST double- and triple-check, especially on a bingo ticket, EVEN if you have a winner.  We had a $3 bingo ticket called 2007 Bingo Party.  I caught 4 corners on card #1 for $10.  I knew I had a winner, but I scratched off the validation letters and noticed they were random (in GA, they're random with losers and $20 or better winners).  I double and triple checked and discovered I missed a number on card #3 which gave me a line on that card which was worth an additional $10 for a $20 winner.

        A Gold account on Lottery Post:  $4.95

        A Millionaire Jumbo Bucks scratcher:  $20

        Airfare and hotel in March 2007 to see The Price Is Right before Bob Barker retired:  $600-something

        Winning something to get a trip to a district office:  Priceless Big Grin

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          Posted: April 19, 2009, 10:01 am - IP Logged

          Well in Michigan its pretty easy to tell if you won or not.  After you play the ticket you scratch of the three letters around the scratch play area.  The three letters will tell you if you won a prize from $1 to $25.  Any prize over $25 (I believe) is just has a random set of three digits.  In the Cashword game $25 is 6 words, if you won a bigger prize you should be able to tell quite easily in this game because you will have over 6 words completely scratched.  Shouldn't be that hard.

          Now I recently moved to Minnesota and its different here.  They don't have the letters so it makes it a little harder.  I mean back in Michigan I would remember many times winning $2 or $5 without realizing it because I forgot to scratch a letter or something but the letters would tell me I won that much.  Without the letters here its hard and you have to really go over your ticket well to see if you won or not.  It does take longer.  I used to hate those letters because sometimes you accidently scratch them before you want to.  Now I miss them...haha

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            Posted: May 8, 2009, 10:58 am - IP Logged

            Scratch off tickets here in Pa have always been pretty straight forward and simple.

            The newer $10.00 Lucky Shamrock ticket changed my thinking a couple months ago.

            There are 3 play areas:  A tic-tac-toe game at the top, a quick win box at the top

            right side, a game in the middle and a find a leprechaun in the bottom play area.

            It's the middle game I thought was awfully deceptive. Instead of a MATCH your

            number to the play numbers, it's BEAT the play numbers.

            Ex.

            Your #: 8  Play numbers: 9 10 15 7

            On a ticket like this, you would win by beating the 7 with your 8.

            Looks like a loser if you're looking to match an 8.

            I think there's a tendency to assume certain things with these games. Many games

            have been MATCH your number to the play numbers and WIN. Not BEAT the play

            numbers. I was quite angry and felt almost hoodwinked by the PA Lottery when

            I realized that some people were going to assume they had to look for a match.

            It may be just me, but I thought that was a dirty trick.

            Sure it was explained, in tiny print I might add, how to play. Always, always read

            the game descriptions. I see many older folks sitting and examining their tickets and

            can't help but wonder much the same thing you are thinking. Just how many have

            been discarded because it is difficult to SEE or determine if you have a winner.

            I do not remember another game like this for PA Instants. This game variation just

            seemed underhanded to me. Sure, people would eventually catch on but...how many

            winners were tossed in the meantime?

            PA has added letters such as: B Q P Z J and so on to their NEW games. That is

            a great verifying tool. You just need to rub the whole play area and find a letter. Used

            to be that only parenthesis were used with the win amount in them. The letters above

            mean no winner. S X V F T H N are winners. Sickening also to think that when they

            initiated the letter system,  people were most likely looking for parenthesis which

            looked like this:

            554435 (100.00) 4998832 <<< winner (old tickets)

            3343545456564466 <<< no winner (old tickets)

            New tickets overlapped the older tickets of course and new tickets looked like this:

            34080279873849 <<< could be a winner, could be a loser

            So people who were line scratchers - rubbing the number line only to see if it contained

            a dollar amount - and did not see anything there were probably tossing winners too for

            awhile.

            Time goes on, news gets out and around and now we know. Whatever was tossed/trashed

            who will ever know?

            Good rules of thumb:

            Don't assume anything.

            Get a magnifying glass if necessary.

            Rub the whole play area.

            And - yes - take it to the retailer. Watch them like a hawk too if you don't know them considering

            the recent busts that have been in the news lately regarding clerks pocketing winners and telling

            the ticket holder the ticket was a LOSER.

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              Posted: May 8, 2009, 11:08 am - IP Logged

              I have notice that. I brought 2 of those scratch-off amazing 500. i could

              not tell if i had won or not. When u go to the retailer they punch in the

              numbers at the bottom, they don't show up on the screen. I have one

              store where i trust the guy.  B careful people, they have had a couple

              states that r stealing people winning tickets.  I'm sure there r some in

              MI as well.

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                Posted: May 8, 2009, 11:16 am - IP Logged

                Just be aware of the situation.  If you win, ask for a winning receipt.  Do your research and make sure everything verifies.  ALSO, if you think you won something, sign the back of your ticket.

                How are you going to win if you don't play?

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                  Posted: May 11, 2009, 1:40 pm - IP Logged

                  i know in NC its like this on the scratch offs. it spells out what you win up to $25 after that the letters are scrambled.

                  $1 - one        $7 - svn           $25 - twf

                  $2 - two        $8 - egt

                  $3 - thr          $9 - nin

                  $4 - for          $10 - ten

                  $5 - fiv           $15 - fft

                  $6 - six          $20 - twn

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                    Posted: May 28, 2009, 9:54 am - IP Logged

                    the VA scratch offs are the same- which makes it easier to find out if you are a winner or not-- as compared

                    to NY MD FL the codes are very confusing

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                      Posted: May 28, 2009, 1:53 pm - IP Logged

                      i noticed that va spells all the amounts out. i saw a ticket for 1000 and it was tho