United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 25, 2009, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

Purpose: As promised , engaging forward trace of a wonderful application developed by a member of the LP (please see http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/192750). Input data will be set every day to last 20 draws, input set (as per the application) will contain last midday & evening numbers. No attempt will be made to modify application in any way, i like segmentation approach and want to forward-trace to verify even slightest advantage of using it.

The console output creates prediction numbers (As per original author) and such will be verified in the original form.

Important: Only midday numbers will be predicted and verified, not sure yet of how long this trial will run for and its termination.

Edge wants to thank the author for sharing his idea with all of us. Let the games begin!

4/26 [Midday Draw]

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-3-4-9 Key Number Set -> 0-3-7-9 Key Number Set -> 1-2-3-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-4-6-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 Enter any key to exit

ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 26, 2009, 6:28 pm - IP Logged

4/26 [Midday Draw] Results & Post Analysis:

A B C D

7-1-9-2 Sum: 19

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-3-4-9 Key Number Set -> 0-3-7-9 Key Number Set -> 1-2-3-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-4-6-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 Enter any key to exit

Note: still getting used to "segments" idea, all of this could lead to "reduced wheel" , all numbers are accounted for and the setup is intended for generating "straight hit", however without adding matrix of numbers to play with and direct hits this is thus far theoretical, the trial did generate repeated numbers "9" and "2" but so it did "0" and "6" (which did not hit) still interesting, might add matrix of target numbers not sure yet. for now we are observing in quite its evolution...

ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 26, 2009, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

4/27 [Midday Draw]

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-3-7-9 Key Number Set -> 1-2-3-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 Enter any key to exit

Note: Latest 2 draw results were added to the input set, segmentation results look almost identical (they are not), engaging sample prediction matrix based on key number sets below

Small sample combinations: (dropped 4,5,6,7 and 8)

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 27, 2009, 8:20 pm - IP Logged

4/27 [Midday Draw] Results & Post Analysis:

Winning numbers:

A B C D

3 7 0 8

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-3-7-9 Key Number Set -> 1-2-3-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 Enter any key to exit

Note: Latest 2 draw results were added to the input set, segmentation results look almost identical (they are not), engaging sample prediction matrix based on key number sets below

Small sample combinations: (dropped 4,5,6,7 and 8)

Non-repeats = 5

0123 0129 0139 0239 1239

Large sample combinations: (dropped 4,5 and 6)

Non-repeats = 35

0123 0127 0128 0129 0137 0138 0139 0178 0179 0189 0237 0238 0239 0278 0279 0289 0378 <--- Hit, this would produce direct profit with 35$ in. 0379 0389 0789 1237 1238 1239 1278 1279 1289 1378 1379 1389 1789 2378 2379 2389 2789 3789

ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 27, 2009, 10:15 pm - IP Logged

4/28 [Midday Draw]

Lets try this magic again, still not doing this by the books, selecting by frequency without going deeper into segmentation analysis for a straight. will try to improve this over time.

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-1-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-4-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-4-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-5-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-6-8-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 1-2-3-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-5-6 Key Number Set -> 0-1-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***Key Number Frequency*** 0 13 1 8 2 5 3 5 4 3 5 5 6 6 7 0 8 4 9 15 Enter any key to exit

Note: application now generates number and frequency, which i will know directly feed to small and large wheels for tomorrow's NY midday draw:

Small sample combinations: (dropped 2,3,4,7 and 8)

United States Member #7437 October 3, 2004 407 Posts Offline

Posted: April 28, 2009, 1:11 pm - IP Logged

Hi Edge:

I don't think you should ignore digits with frequecies of 0(7 in this case). Every digit should be included in a key number set for the past 20 draws. When it's missing from all sets, it should be considered.

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 28, 2009, 8:21 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by jayemmar on April 28, 2009

Hi Edge:

I don't think you should ignore digits with frequecies of 0(7 in this case). Every digit should be included in a key number set for the past 20 draws. When it's missing from all sets, it should be considered.

NY Midday was: 7 2 7 9

jayemmar

mea culpa! I don't expect actually to get box/straight hit on every draw! others should not expect it neither. however what i will do is include "extreme" spectra from key sets as per your comment in the wheels idea is to have it run for some time and take the average, your basic idea is to go by frequency per segments (short burst aka duration) wheels can not account for doubles and tripples if they did we would go beyond 100$ in the seed money. i decided to keep it to max 35$. now payout will differ based on the winners on any given midday drawing. money management is critical. even if one draw gives a box hit if over an week a damage is done such that it exceeds box payout it is something to consider. main objective is always to come-ahead over some time-frame. straight hit will get us to the point where sustainable losses can be endured but even so one pumps win money back to the game and zero sum game occurs by statistical average unless there is an "edge" and one can set stop-loss limit, this is exactly what I (well all of us) try to achieve... (less so in jackpot games)

ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 28, 2009, 8:36 pm - IP Logged

4/28 [Midday Draw] Results & Post Analysis:

Winning Numbers:

A B C D

7 2 7 9

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-1-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-4-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-4-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-5-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-6-8-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 1-2-3-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-5-6 Key Number Set -> 0-1-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***Key Number Frequency*** 0 13 1 8 2 5 3 5 4 3 5 5 6 6 7 0 8 4 9 15 Enter any key to exit

Small sample combinations: (dropped 2,3,4,7 and 8)

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 28, 2009, 8:55 pm - IP Logged

4/29 [Midday Draw]

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-5-7-9 Key Number Set -> 0-6-7-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 1-2-3-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***Key Number Frequency*** 0 9 1 3 2 8 3 5 4 1 5 3 6 4 7 2 8 1 9 12 Enter any key to exit

Note: most and least frequent numbers used in above permutations. some numbers need to drop (obviously) wrong number drop or double/tripple or quadruples will render this draw null.

ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

United States Member #7437 October 3, 2004 407 Posts Offline

Posted: April 29, 2009, 11:32 am - IP Logged

Hi Edge:

Thanks for doing all of this work. I hope it turns into something rewarding.

For this breakdown of key numbers, I'd look at the key number sets that have numbers with frequency of 1. Very often we find a pair that hits within these sets. The 1 frequency digits are 1 and 4. On the ABD segment we have 1-2-3-9 and on the ABC segment we have 2-3-4-9. By looking at the numbers in common with each segment, we get 2,3, and 9. ABC and ABD have AB in common, so it might turn out that A or B will come out as a 2,3, or a 9.

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 29, 2009, 8:49 pm - IP Logged

4/29 [Midday Draw] Results & Post Analysis

Winning Numbers:

A B C D

8 5 3 0

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-5-7-9 Key Number Set -> 0-6-7-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 1-2-3-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***Key Number Frequency*** 0 9 1 3 2 8 3 5 4 1 5 3 6 4 7 2 8 1 9 12 Enter any key to exit

Note: draw nullified by single incorrect number drop: 5, and that is always real danger of it all. real damage measured in $ would have been 70$ (2 days)

ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 29, 2009, 8:55 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by jayemmar on April 29, 2009

Hi Edge:

Thanks for doing all of this work. I hope it turns into something rewarding.

For this breakdown of key numbers, I'd look at the key number sets that have numbers with frequency of 1. Very often we find a pair that hits within these sets. The 1 frequency digits are 1 and 4. On the ABD segment we have 1-2-3-9 and on the ABC segment we have 2-3-4-9. By looking at the numbers in common with each segment, we get 2,3, and 9. ABC and ABD have AB in common, so it might turn out that A or B will come out as a 2,3, or a 9.

jayemmar

thanks jayemmar, probably what i will do is to separate "box" attempts from "straight" attempts", for "box" I will continue to iterate for 35$ and for straight look for "patterns" as per your suggestion!

not at all trying to prove you wrong or anything, as of current no real money is put on the table. basically trying to see if to some degree key-sets yield some better than average delivery over pure entropy (that i tried before with P4, with a negative balance sheet:) fortunately on the paper..:)

ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 29, 2009, 9:44 pm - IP Logged

4/30 [Midday Draw]

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-5-7-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-7-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-8-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-6 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-8 Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-5 Final draw count used to find key number set was 18 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-6 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***Key Number Frequency*** 0 10 1 2 2 11 3 7 4 1 5 5 6 5 7 2 8 3 9 10 Enter any key to exit

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 30, 2009, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

4/30 [Midday Draw] Results & Post Analysis:

A B C D

1 0 9 0

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-5-7-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-7-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-8-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-6 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-8 Key Number Set -> 2-3-4-5 Final draw count used to find key number set was 18 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-6-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-6 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***Key Number Frequency*** 0 10 1 2 2 11 3 7 4 1 5 5 6 5 7 2 8 3 9 10 Enter any key to exit

United States Member #68609 December 26, 2008 2204 Posts Offline

Posted: April 30, 2009, 11:07 pm - IP Logged

5/1 [Midday Draw]

***ABC SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-9 Key Number Set -> 0-5-7-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-7-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-8-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ABD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-6 Key Number Set -> 0-2-6-8 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20 ***ACD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-9 Key Number Set -> 2-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 20

***BCD SEGMENT*** Key Number Set -> 0-1-5-7 Key Number Set -> 0-1-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-2-3-5 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-7 Key Number Set -> 0-2-5-8 Key Number Set -> 0-2-8-9 Key Number Set -> 0-3-5-9 Final draw count used to find key number set was 18 ***Key Number Frequency*** 0 14 1 3 2 12 3 8 4 0 5 8 6 2 7 4 8 6 9 11 Enter any key to exit

Non-repeats = 5 (dropped 1,4,6,7 and 8)

0235 0239 0259 0359 2359

Non-repeats = 35 (dropped 1,7 and 8) btw. if i would choose one repeat this would be 140 combinations!